Tom has already been paid. I think the biggest thing he's saying is he's sad that this big screen spectacle can't be seen in the theatre environment...nothing more...nothing less. To me, Mr. Hanks is one of the finest, if not the finest actor to have been in front of the camera. I can understand his loss, on this, his film and how HE originally envisioned it. When you work on something for years, and then see a change albeit necessary, you do feel a sense of loss and I think that is what he's trying to convey. Having had COVID, I think he also understands the reality of the world we're in and the reality that the company with the deepest pockets "bought" his dream. I for one will be waiting with popcorn in hand and ready to watch in all the glory that Hanks is able to put on the screen!
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Tom Hanks Discusses 'Heartbreaking' Shift of WWII Film Greyhound From Theatrical Blockbuster to Apple TV+ Exclusive
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Yup, and the 65 inch model is $469 on Amazon...and rated well. Literally a steal at that price. I've got a few years old Panasonic 55 inch, and I'm thinking of upgrading.
More on topic, this movie looks great and I can't wait to see it. I'm not a purist when it comes to movies in the theater, so the experience won't matter to me.
Edit: And my Pioneer Premier (Andrew Jones) setup, 7.2, is more than sufficient for what I need. It's not pro quality by any means, but boy does it rock the house.
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I doubt that as it'a a historical movie so anyone can look up what happened.
I don't know what made them do it but I assume that the money guys wanted a return on investment sooner rather than later. If Tom Hanks spent a decade planning this I'm sure he would have preferred to wait.
The only theater I experienced that to this day has no match in the home theater is analog iMax. Never experienced the digital version so I can’t comment on that.
12 audio channels? How many movies today are made like that? You also don’t need a screen the size of a house, nor 50,000 watts. Both image and sound quality experience, in terms of the impact you are referring to, has to do with how close you are to the sound and screen.
Lol at that misplaced snobbery. How much does the entertainment industry contribute to the US economy? How many people does it employee? How much is Mr. Hanks paying in taxes every year? How much does he donate to charity every year? (I'll wager it's A LOT more than you pay or donate)
Entertainment has been part of the human experience...well, forever. Before there was science, there was entertainment. Suggesting that being an entertainer is not a "real skill" says a lot more about your negative mind than anything else. What "real skill" are you contributing to society?
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And you know this how? Personally the only time I've ever watched video content on my iPhone was on a flight...before I got an iPad. And that was years ago. The only times I ever watch on my iPad or Mac are when I'm traveling, which is a few times a year at most. The other 300+ days, if I'm watching video, it's on my TV.
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It’s 50,000 W for a reason. It’s got to fill a giant open room the size of a house with sufficient audio levels. Try cranking a 50k W system in your home theater and it might be the last thing you ever hear without a hearing aid. Some back of the napkin math shows my setup is ~1000 W RMS, with all channels driven, and it will definitely get loud enough to cause permanent hearing damage if you keep it cranked too long. I certainly never go near max volume, usually no more than -10 dB from reference level, and only if I want it loud. However, yes I only have 8 discrete channels, so an ETX theater’s got me there lol. It looks like those ETX theaters are only available in select markets though. Most people are stuck with their run of the mill theater.
I still enjoy going to the theater, but only matinees or late on a Sunday, so the theater is almost empty. Most people today are simply not civilized and considerate enough to want to be in a crowded theater. Sad but true.
We have also lost subtlety and silence in movies. It's far, far too much visual and audio effects. Then the stories are more for children these days, not to mention endless reboots, remakes and sequels. The amount of overacting and overdramatizing is also almost comical. It's just so depressingly bad. I miss the 50-90s for movies, with my favorite period being the 70s.
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I watch movies all the time On my iPad, especially in my bedroom where I have no TV. Why not, the picture looks outstanding.
We have also lost subtlety and silence in movies. It's far, far too much visual and audio effects. Then the stories are more for children these days, not to mention endless reboots, remakes and sequels. The amount of overacting and overdramatizing is also almost comical. It's just so depressingly bad. I miss the 50-90s for movies, with my favorite period being the 70s.
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I watch movies all the time On my iPad, especially in my bedroom where I have no TV. Why not, the picture looks outstanding.
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Dont forget the crying kids, talking kids and constant epic battles with snack packaging!
I'm old enough to remember the ushers routinely checking the theater for troublemakers and swiftly kicking people out, which was very rare compared to today, since people back then were much better behaved.
Tom is an artist with a vision of how he wants his art to be seen. Why are you guys so up in arms over that opinion? I saw the comments as harmless tongue-in-cheek statements.
And the statements about Hanks not contributing to society is pretty short sighted. He has contributed millions of dollars to the economy, supported thousands of jobs, if not more. And he is supporting Apple TV as well. In this specific case, the fledging Apple TV product needs top entertainers more than he needs the money.
Remember that your big screen, no matter how big, is just another wall without people like Tom Hanks. He’s what is providing the value here. Therefore I find it ironic that many of you are so dismissive of the talents of people like him.
Guys, just chill out and enjoy the movie. There’s no need to go into a condescending pissing match over how your fancy schmancy system is better than theaters or how much you don’t need Hanks. (Although I’m sure Tom can easily buy one much better than yours.)
And the statements about Hanks not contributing to society is pretty short sighted. He has contributed millions of dollars to the economy, supported thousands of jobs, if not more. And he is supporting Apple TV as well. In this specific case, the fledging Apple TV product needs top entertainers more than he needs the money.
Remember that your big screen, no matter how big, is just another wall without people like Tom Hanks. He’s what is providing the value here. Therefore I find it ironic that many of you are so dismissive of the talents of people like him.
Guys, just chill out and enjoy the movie. There’s no need to go into a condescending pissing match over how your fancy schmancy system is better than theaters or how much you don’t need Hanks. (Although I’m sure Tom can easily buy one much better than yours.)
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I hate to break it to you, but when it comes to actors, foreigners have been playing Americans for centuries. Bottom line, Europe, in particular, produces some of the world's finest actors. It's the height of absurdity to suggest that only Americans should play "American" roles in "American" movies. What is an "American" movie these days anyway? Many, if not most, films are financed globally.
By your logic, American actors should never portray non-Americans, right? We should only cast actors from the same country as the character being portrayed? Honestly, I just don't even understand that kind of thinking. It's ridiculous.
No reason you shouldn't. Personally I don't enjoy watching anything on a small screen like that.
Not everything is about $$$$$. He's certainly rich enough not to care as much.
In any case, people who work on products, whether it be Movies, TV, Software, Food ( Chefs ) , want the results to be as good as possible, and the monetary aspect secondary. Working on a project, especially one that team member have enjoyed, there's a feeling of ownership and wanting the best possible product experience as possible.
A labour of love.
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You can get that at home if you're willing to put down the money and construct a dedicated room. Enough space for 15-20 people with comfortable seating and depending on your preference a screen 15' to 20' wide. Maybe some additional bean bags for the kinds to put in the front or stairs between the seating rows. If you want to go all in on projection, the new Christie Eclipse is the one to beat. For the amount it costs, I'd personally wait for second generation. I know a few people that have gone µLED wall (Sony Crystal-LED and Samsung the Wall). Even more expensive, but they're very happy with it.
Very nice set up!!! Like the Popcorn / candy setup - nice touch!!
I think I'm going to set up our Garage Theater (for just the two of us) and watch 'Greyhound' out there this weekend. 110-inch 1080p front projection screen and a pretty awesome sound system.
I'll even fire up the popcorn machine.
It will feel like going to the movies and we won't have to wear a mask.
Mark
I have an LG 65’ OLED screen and a Dolby Atmos setup and I will never watch a movie in theatre again. That being said, I also realize that 90% of people can’t afford that or aren’t aware of all the technical details or maybe they just enjoy the theatre atmosphere.
I won't argue that, with enough money, you can build a pretty amazing home theater. That said, you can spend all the money in the world and still not get the theater experience at home. It's more than just the size of the room or the tech inside. Movie theaters are these interesting transitory communal spaces. You can't replicate that at home. The very fact that you are home changes the overall experience. When you enter a movie theater, you leave reality and you take an emotional journey with your random fellow travelers. There's something intangible about the experience that clearly doesn't matter to a lot of people in this thread, but for those who appreciate it, no home theater will ever compare.
Totally agree with you!
most commercial movie theaters don’t care about video or audio calibration.
Would much rather watch at home
Yes but then you're stuck watching movies in an environment that takes you out of the story. How do people even watch movies at home with distracting noise and light everywhere? It's just not an enjoyable experience watching movies in places that aren't built for movies.
If you're going to spend money for a home theatre, spend it on the room, not the TV. The TV is the LEAST beneficial. A room designed for theatre is better than a 4k screen with surround sound.
Surround sound is wasted in a room that wasn't designed for it.
I can see why he might want his (And the many other people involved) art on the big screen as with the right location, right complex with the right technology it is going to be better and it’s also what they worked for. It also seems to be a long lived dream for him. So I can understand why he’s disheartened by having to sell it off to the highest bidder for small screen. No chance really to ‘prove’ itself at the box office either.
Not everyone shares your subjective experience. In fact, it is arguable that most people do not, which is why fewer people are going to the theaters these days, minus the current virus impact. Your argument reminds me of young film photographers of today extolling the virtues of film, amazingly even to experienced old film era photographers. Meanwhile the vast majority of those old film era photographers gladly switched to superior digital cameras years ago.
By the way, I still enjoy the occasional theater experience. For me it's simply about getting out of the home and a certain sense of nostalgia, not that the theater experience is better.
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He has a real skill and millions of people pay him to demonstrate that skill. Look at all the people (nearly 600) who were employed to make this film:
Greyhound (2020) - IMDb
Greyhound (2020) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more.
www.imdb.com
A lot of souls were lost and heros stories lost or untold before the war but some were detained or damaged too.
This site is interesting:
This site is interesting:
Chronological List of U.S. Ships Sunk or Damaged 1939 to 1941
Chronological List of U.S. Ships Sunk or Damaged 1939 to 1941 due to war causes
www.usmm.org