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You people would pay $100 for a navigation app? Are you serious? The Garmin nüvi 265WT (widescreen, text-to-speech, lifetime traffic) was $130 yesterday... for the entire device!

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=1391981

This is a big app, but to sell it combined with the mount for any more than their cheapest TomTom model makes no sense to the consumer.**

As for handling phone-calls in the car, well, most cars have Bluetooth now (and that's what you should be using in your car anyway) so it'll work in the usual fashion. Many TomTom machines handle calls too.


**Although that doesn't stop some!
 
Sorry, noob question here. Will you need a data plan/3G service for this GPS to work? which services are required here if there are any?
 
More info here:

http://blog.telenav.com/blog/2009/06/telenav-iphone-update/

It makes much more sense if you consider that the maps are downloaded live over the air when are you create a new route.

So sat-navs don't work when you are outwith 3G signal or even EDGE?

Imagine taking your car across Europe and using the TomTom app. Your way, you'll be downloading maps across (several) mobile operators using roaming data charges for each routing procedure. Do you know how much that costs? TomTom is a European company and understand this.

It is likely you'll buy an in app year subscription that will update roads/spped cameras etc yearly.
 
What about heat

My Garmin gets very warm sitting on the dash while operating. I wonder if the TomTom will provide some heat shielding or if it is a non issue.
 
I wonder why the Tom Tom adaptor provides enhanced GPS… does the new iPhone need it or just those without the compass I wonder?

My thoughts too..

"the TomTom car kit, that offers enhanced GPS reception"

How exactly?
 
I wish that either Google Earth supported directions, or Google Maps could give you that angled view. As long as they both support compass data, there would be no need for these 3rd party apps.

i agree. ive used tom tom and garmin gps and they always tend to show me longer ways to get to places. but when i use google maps, the directions are much more accurate. google should come out with their own gps systems!! or other gps systems should use google maps as data..
 
So sat-navs don't work when you are outwith 3G signal or even EDGE?

Don't be daft.

Imagine taking your car across Europe and using the TomTom app. Your way, you'll be downloading maps across (several) mobile operators using roaming data charges for each routing procedure. Do you have a clue how much that costs? TomTom is a European company and understand this.

It is likely you'll buy an in app year subscription that will update roads/spped cameras etc yearly.

I was not talking about Europe, with which I have no experience using the TeleNav app (or anywhere outside the U.S. for that matter). While I have travelled extensively outside the U.S., I don't use a GPS unit when doing so. I am typically on business, where I am going from airport to hotel to meeting, using local transportation (bus, taxi, train, etc.).

I was discussing the current model by which TeleNav offers their GPS application for WinMobile and Blackberry, which is a monthly subscription ($10 / month) model.

Yes, the maps are downloaded live over the air using the data service. Yes, the traffic information is download live over the air using the data service. Same with searches and so forth.

I cannot speak to whether Tom-Tom, Garmin or for that matter, even TeleNav's iPhone application will utilize the same approach or, given the much larger internal storage of the iPhone, will enable you to store the entire atlas on the device.

I was, as are others, simply speculating based upon existing experience and a certain amount logic, at least here in the U.S. There may be other approaches that will make sense outside the U.S. Sure, if roaming costs with data plans are going to substantially increase the expense, then this model does not make sense in that environment. However, at minimum, you are going to need some type of live data service for traffic, if that is of interest.

Oh...and BTW, yes, one potential deficiency in the TeleNav model is that you do lose access to maps and directions, if you are outside the service area. My experience is that this has been a non-issue. More often, especially in poor weather, I loose the GPS signal, not the AT&T data signal. Thus, I lose current location and directions until I get acquisition of the satellites back.

Lastly, for those of us in Minnesota, the windshield mount is illegal. You cannot mount anything above the dashboard here. I think that we may be the only state with this issue. Thus, I have a mount that clips to one of the air vents so that the top of the mount and phone are below the top of the level of the dashboard. Hence, at least here, the Tom-Tom mount will be problematic.

Such is life...
 
Great Great Great!!!... Now WHAT?!?!?

This is all good news, at last, yippie, hurray, way to go, etc. ...

But, FOR WHAT COUNTRIES WILL MAPS BE AVAILABLE FOR!?!?!?
For God's sake, we have waited a respectful amount of time for a release-date while standing in the dark. Now we clearly understood that all this was withheld information so it would be one of the main elements on the Keynote presentation. But COULDN'T they AT LEAST justify all this waiting by bringing on more specific details! I mean, Apple's presentation did not include all the details which we are reading these following days (ex. better fingerprint-resistance, better processor & RAM, etc.), but at least they give you clues to follow, third-party pages and MOST importantly release-dates across the world. As for Tom Tom, all we know is that... it coming along new iPhone's release... Nough said!... :eek: How rude & irresponsible!!! :mad:
 
It has nothing to do with 3G, it uses Satellite signals for the GPS!

i know thaaaaat I was just meaning the 3G phone and that it has the GPS whereas the non3G phones do not.

If you knock on my head it makes a soft sound. I'm not that dense
 
Songs...

I wonder if the TomTom app will let you play music from your library while it's navigating...that would be really neat and would make sense.
 
My Predictions on Pricing

Full TomTom Application will probably be $39.99, while the official TomTom Dock will probably be $49.99. What do you guys think?
 
Let's not forget the folks over at XRoad. They have had GPS turn-by-turn navigation on the iPhone, even before firmware 3.0 was announced! I use their G-Map US West app all the time, and it navigates me just fine. Plus, they separate US between West and East, so I only paid something like $25 for the app.

I stumbled upon a YouTube vid of their next version, which will also have voice turn-by-turn. But they seem to trump TomTom's app by also offering spoken street names!

Watch the preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urwfnMZmrs4
 
I'm all for this. I'll certainly get it, our Tom Tom 910 never let us down - the software is just superb. The OSX of the GPS world!
If that translates well to the iPhone they have a definite customer here.
 
You'll notice that when Apple first announces turn-by-turn apps in the keynote address, the screenshot shown is not from TomTom but from the already-existing GMap program, the only currently available turn-by-turn app (although they call it a "game feature" in v1.3 to get around the restriction). Perhaps a tacit acknowledgement on Apple's part of the drama surrounding that app?

FWIW, expect an update of GMap, returning to full turn-by-turn functionality with the release of 3.0.
 
My thoughts too..

"the TomTom car kit, that offers enhanced GPS reception"

How exactly?

Through the dock connector.

Recall that iPhone OS 3.0 allows developers to do hardware accessories. The TomTom dock is one such device. It has, apparently, a better GPS receiver built-in. I suspect it will also support folks using the iPhone 1G which has no built-in GPS at all. Perhaps even iPod touch users - so long as all the maps are loaded in at start-up rather than streamed, there's no reason a GPS navigator needs to be online.
 
No news on an ipod touch version? Many many more of those than iphones, and I expect many people would upgrade to an ipod touch for good, fully featured apps like this.

And with the new OS 3.0 offering bluetooth peripheral support, they could sell a little bluetooth GPS that sits in the mounting cradle, or be compatible with existing bluetooth GPS units

Who told you there are more ipod touches than iphones?
 
You people would pay $100 for a navigation app? Are you serious? The Garmin nüvi 265WT (widescreen, text-to-speech, lifetime traffic) was $130 yesterday... for the entire device!

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=1391981

The reason many of us ARE iPhone users is because we don't believe we should have to own 10 pieces of hardware in order to get 10 services. There's a distinct advantage in letting your one master device do everything. (There's also a disadvantage, in that you're completely SOL if your one device breaks, but many of us assume that will never happen. :D)

Assuming there's a traffic feature, I'd pay up to $100 for this.
 
I hope that TomTom dock actually takes advantage of more than just powering the iPhone and lets you tab into it's audio output, preferably digital output.
 
My thoughts too..

"the TomTom car kit, that offers enhanced GPS reception"

How exactly?
My guess: By placing it very close to windshield, so that the roof of the car blocks fewer satellite. I'd think those that expect an antenna or some other high tech gadget in the mount will be sorely disappointed. If there was a real technical aspect to it, they would have emphasized it.
 
Let's not forget the folks over at XRoad. They have had GPS turn-by-turn navigation on the iPhone, even before firmware 3.0 was announced! I use their G-Map US West app all the time, and it navigates me just fine. Plus, they separate US between West and East, so I only paid something like $25 for the app.

I stumbled upon a YouTube vid of their next version, which will also have voice turn-by-turn. But they seem to trump TomTom's app by also offering spoken street names!

Watch the preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urwfnMZmrs4

Thanks for that, it looks great! Also check out the first minute or so of his v1.3 review. It explains what happened with this app regarding violation of the turn-by-turn restriction.

Basically, GMap v1.2 was a full-featured navigation app, and this was the version that disappeared from iTunes for a while until they could negotiate a compromise with Apple. The compromise was v1.3, where a "game feature" gives you an audible tone as you collect "random" prize objects. Just so happens those always fall right before you have to make a turn. The tradeoff was losing the individual turn icons with distance remaining.

Few people prefer v1.3, and GMap's website pretty much discourages you from downloading the update if you like v1.2 (a true turn-by-turn version). GMap support told me the same in an e-mail, that 1.3 was only a temporary version until iPhone 3.0 is released. Glad to see that the superior features of v1.2 will be returning in the next update, plus much-requested improvements like landscape mode and voice prompts!

This program also uses NAVTEQ map data, which gives it another edge over TomTom (which, like Google, uses TeleAtlas). I also will be curious whether TomTom's price point is competitive with GMap's, which when I purchased was $39.98 for the whole US (currently $49.98).
 
But isn't it illegal to have a windshield mount in California?

If so, hopefully they offer a dashboard option.


California's law changed back in January. You can mount GPS devices on the windshield, but with restrictions on where. See this:

http://blog.telenav.com/blog/2008/09/california-oks-gps-mounts-on-windshields-kind-of/

The keys, as I understand them, for both the MN and CA laws are issues pertaining to obstructed vision and also potentially interfering with the function of air bags.
 
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