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Top 7 Best-Selling Smartphones Last Year Were All iPhones
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I’m quite surprised by this.
Yes it’s consistent with my experience in manufacturing in India (though the higher up the “stack” you go the less common such defects become)! But Apple’s fanaticism for product quality and in particular for fit and finish, plus and the number of Apple personnel they have embedded in supposedly third party manufacturing sites makes, this seem unlikely to me.
Note I don’t have any experience in Apple manufacturing anywhere, much less Foxconn so what do I know? But I have talked casually with various former Apple low-level mfg folks who spent a lot of time embedded at Foxconn.
Worldwide userbase is ~70% Android & ~29% iPhone.
In terms of smartphone profits it is ~85% iPhone & the rest Android.
It is a shrewd move for Apple to follow the Pareto Principle. Doing so avoids any anti-trust investigation as in terms of active devices or active users they're the minority.
And yet their profit margins allows them get >80% of smartphone profits. The share that actually matters.
So Apple's competitors & govts looks for loopholes which is the the App Store & even iMessage.
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The iPhones alone account for about 20%. Now going by your 70%, share that amongst the uncountable Android manufacturers and their even-more uncountable models and tell us what share each model gets to compete with, say, iPhone 14.
It's wild to me that the most popular Android smartphones on this list are all budget models. I would have expected to see at least one flagship, or even a mid-ranger. 😮
Is there a reason you believe that or a model you have in mind? Or are you just lumping every cheap android phone into a single line item and calling it a competing model?
And not a single Huawei or ZTE phone on the list. Isn’t that a surprise?
This can vary significantly by country but according to Statcounter, the global mobile OS market share for Android is around 70% and around 30% for iOS. In Japan, for example, it's more like 68% iOS and 32% Android.
The list is for GLOBAL and not the US or other rich nation.
Everything written below is for GLOBAL market share & not just your rich or poor country.
Relative to Samsung & other major Android brands, Apple has few smartphone SKUs and primarily caters $429-1599 price points.
Android monopolizes the sub-$429 smartphone market.
For $429-1599 price points all the Android brands likely have ~50% share with ~50% of Apple.
This setup's ideal for Apple as the number of active devices they have does not qualify their platform as a anti-trust or even a monopoly.
And yet they take home ~85% of all smartphone profits.
Makes you wish you could go back to the tail end of the 2007–2008 financial crisis in 20 Jan 2009 and bought $AAPL at its 2 decade low.
Buy 4,000 Apple shares at $78.20/share for a total of $312,800.00 and today's portfolio value would be $20,345,920.00 at $181.58/share. Quarterly div for more than a decade would be $25,760.00.
It includes all phones but the top ten accounts for just under 20% of total sales for the year.
How many different Huawei and ZTE phone models are there? How often do buyers of those phones typically get a brand new one?
The list shows top 10 best selling individual phone models... The iPhones were (according to the list) the best selling phones. Android has a much greater share of the market but also ~3000 times more different models of phones that run Android, which of course divides the attention of the market and makes every Android phone capture less individual shares of the market because of the sheer volume of other Android phones each model has to compete with.
Note on the statistic I mentioned: 3000x comes from the official Android website where they state there are currently "24k+ distinct devices" - rounding to 24,000 i just divided that number by 8 (the number of models apple is selling) to get 3000 times more models of Android phones than iPhones.
To support @c_nn_r the number of active smartphone brands is down to almost 250 in 2023 so far from over 700 in 2017.
If you live in the US the smartphone brands you are exposed to are
Have you fellas hear of Cherry Mobile or myPhone? How about Micromax? Symphony? vivo? OPPO?
GLOBALLY these are the 6 dominant smartphone companies
So 24,000 distinct smartphones ÷ 700 Android brands = about 34 distinct smartphones per brand. Quantities produced could be as little as 150,000 units.
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Another thing to consider is the % of the global smartphone market the iPhone 14 shipped for. It is less than 4%.
If you add up all 7 iPhones then it comes out as nearly 16%
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the key part of this data chart is the word mentioned at the bottom of the chart.
which says it reflects "Sell-Through".
sell through normally indicates sales to retail level customers.
ive gone to the data source site and there is no mention of how many shops and exactly where these shops (countries, cities, etc) are located (other than the specific mention of the data includes points in the usa and china).
the methodology most likely uses a selected (limited) number of shops in "several" countries which typically are large size electronics goods shops, which have agreed to provide sales information for the survey.
there is only one way to know if this info is credible. that involves following several cycles of the source's reports and correlating the results to other reports that use different methodology.
for people who reject the data in this report due to the often repeated and generally held "70% android / 30% apple" world wide market share view, sell through data will always favour apple since it doesn't dump phones into the trade (like all chinese and korean branded phones) where wholesale level sales are counted as "sales". versus end-customer level sales.
apple (especially Tim Cook !) is excellent at managing inventory to almost completely never need to "buy back" trade inventory, as all other smart phone companies do.
this report's data and the 70/30 market share data could both be true at the same time.
which says it reflects "Sell-Through".
sell through normally indicates sales to retail level customers.
ive gone to the data source site and there is no mention of how many shops and exactly where these shops (countries, cities, etc) are located (other than the specific mention of the data includes points in the usa and china).
the methodology most likely uses a selected (limited) number of shops in "several" countries which typically are large size electronics goods shops, which have agreed to provide sales information for the survey.
there is only one way to know if this info is credible. that involves following several cycles of the source's reports and correlating the results to other reports that use different methodology.
for people who reject the data in this report due to the often repeated and generally held "70% android / 30% apple" world wide market share view, sell through data will always favour apple since it doesn't dump phones into the trade (like all chinese and korean branded phones) where wholesale level sales are counted as "sales". versus end-customer level sales.
apple (especially Tim Cook !) is excellent at managing inventory to almost completely never need to "buy back" trade inventory, as all other smart phone companies do.
this report's data and the 70/30 market share data could both be true at the same time.
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And? They told you they didn’t damage any phone before closing it in a box? Ok, then it probably mean then really didn’t 😉 cmon. You just need to use google to see I’m telling you the truth about India assembly:
Some iPhone 15 Pro units are arriving with defects
Defective iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max handsets are being received by buyers with issues regarding fit and finish.
www.phonearena.com
You don't know that iPhones are assembled in China and India or you wanted to say something else but I don’t get it if it’s something else. Who cares about huawei or ZTE?
Published: Sep 24, 2023, 12:21 PMAnd? They told you they didn’t damage any phone before closing it in a box? Ok, then it probably mean then really didn’t 😉 cmon. You just need to use google to see I’m telling you the truth about India assembly:
Some iPhone 15 Pro units are arriving with defects
Defective iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max handsets are being received by buyers with issues regarding fit and finish.
If it is overheating issue then I think it is resolved by iOS 17.3.1
What are you talking about xD We are talking here about dirt on the lenses and scratched phones out of the box of phones assembled in India. I’m just pointing out what others tweeted and what I’ve found on google. It’s not just my opinion.
Wonder how much of an influence carrier discounts potentially had on overall sales?
Not that I understand much about these things but I’ve noticed a few more offers here in the UK (incl. new models) compared to previous years.
Not that I understand much about these things but I’ve noticed a few more offers here in the UK (incl. new models) compared to previous years.
I bought in just before the spit in 2014. has performed well for me. up 400% on my 200 shares.