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Top Lightning-Based Apple Products That Must Switch to USB-C by 2025 for EU Sale
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The corporate lobbying us much more apparent in some countries than others, not say where I live is perfect, but it's a bit more obvious in the US.
In the grand scheme of things, it's doesn't matter. A slow but growing momentum of people believe that common standards is the best way forward, ie EU Single Market applications, whereas in other areas of the world, there's more freedom to act against what everyone else does.
I'm really not trying to troll, but I honestly don't understand how a new standard could ever be adopted like this to replace USB C if companies are legally barred from releasing products with it. The standard they just adopted had 8 years of real world use before the EU agreed to make it law in 2 more years. How would that happen in this paradigm - can someone walk me through it?
Also what happens when China or some other large political entity decides to adopt their own standard?
As an aside, the original USB spec didn't even take off (at least in part) until Apple released the iMac, with NO legacy ports and no floppy slot.
Also what happens when China or some other large political entity decides to adopt their own standard?
As an aside, the original USB spec didn't even take off (at least in part) until Apple released the iMac, with NO legacy ports and no floppy slot.
USB wasn't a thing until 1996! But you are right about the innovation argument.
I like the USB-C connector, but the variations in cable types for signal speed and power levels make it a very non-standard standard.
Interestingly, Apple support made me restore my iPhone via DFU due to performance issues, so without a port, it would have been somewhat difficult to
does this mean that when a better standard gets created, a company is not allowed to use it until EU approves it and knowing the pace of political approvals, innovation will remain stagnant until that approval?
I was using Samsung between 2012 and 2020. Though I am always careful with my charging cables, I did get problem with Samsung USB cables and two times the phone had to repair. But, I am using my 12PM for the last two years and no problem with the cable or the phone's contact. Using USB-C never gave the confidence like Lightning. I always felt like something might get damaged while I connect it.
Do you have the legal text? Normally how it works is every new device “produced” not “introduced” has to comply with the new regulation.
Otherwise manufacturers could keep selling the same device for years. maybe they gave the phone manufacturers certain concessions since this is not a regulation about security, just about convenience.
Could be but that doesn’t resolve the data rare problem. USB-C can currently support data rates up to 40 gigabit per second and the Max rate will soon hit 80. USB-C currently has charging throughout of up to 100 Watts, a rate MagSafe 2 will not get close to.
My thoughts exactly. I think by 2025 we will find that USB plugin chargers are becoming obsolete. Well done EU 🙄
Yes. There’s an investigation first though where the companies affected can participate if they like to on where they must provide their arguments as to why would it benefit the consumer to have several type of chargers, what does Lightning provides to the consumer that USB doesn’t.
I’m pretty sure Apple can’t say any benefits though.
Definitely agree
Make it a bit thicker too , less easy to lose
And please oh please add AirTag integration
During its announcement in 2012, Phil Schiller called the Lightning port a "modern connector for the next decade."
Article Link: Top Lightning-Based Apple Products That Must Switch to USB-C by 2025 for EU Sale
Well Phil Schiller was EXACTLY Right here - nice.
The market for lightning -> USB-C adapters will skyrocket! So good to have more dongles for old cables.
Just a $10 adapter instead, right?
= $$$I've had to buy a couple because the family loses them all the time. So $10 a pop.
The innovation argument weak. The interoperability of power, wifi, networks significantly more important. The mess of Apple HomeKit and Airplay examples. Nice to have my Sonos app add my HomePod to their system. Nope, one way street for Airplay. Use Apple apps or do without. Not a fan of forced regulations but if manufacturers cannot get it done. So be it.
Unless you buy all new stuff, you’ll… ummm… you’ll still have all those different types of cables.
I'm going to make what I feel is a safe prediction...
iPhone SE3 moves from Lightning to USB-C by the middle of 2023. Call it SE3.5? Could even see some minor spec changes, more storage options, etc depending on market demand... I still feel safe in saying that there are plenty of iPhone users out there, with money to spend, that don't want a fully gesture-driven/home-buttonless UI/UX.. Apple will keep making a home button model at least through the end of 2023. Because, Apple likes to take peoples money. They don't want those users hanging onto their SE2s/3s until they can't update them anymore, see no hone button version available and say, "I may as well buy a flip phone".
Future iPhones (including future iPhone SE4) will be wireless data and charging only. No port at all. The wireless charger will have a USB-C connector, of course.
iPhone SE3 moves from Lightning to USB-C by the middle of 2023. Call it SE3.5? Could even see some minor spec changes, more storage options, etc depending on market demand... I still feel safe in saying that there are plenty of iPhone users out there, with money to spend, that don't want a fully gesture-driven/home-buttonless UI/UX.. Apple will keep making a home button model at least through the end of 2023. Because, Apple likes to take peoples money. They don't want those users hanging onto their SE2s/3s until they can't update them anymore, see no hone button version available and say, "I may as well buy a flip phone".
Future iPhones (including future iPhone SE4) will be wireless data and charging only. No port at all. The wireless charger will have a USB-C connector, of course.