For once I agree with you. The innovation cycle in the EU is going to be 10 years.
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That would never happen. Companies exist to make money, Europe is either their second or third biggest market, there is no way they will abandon it.
It would perhaps even revive the European tech world.
eSim is special, and over time there will be more countries that will be only eSim. If they don't go full portless, I don't see them making two different ports. Apple remembers how much people screamed when they changed from 30pin to Lighting, now they can say the EU made us blame them ...
Well to me, lightning is better. But I can envision Apple releasing EU only phones with USB-C and other locales with different/better/worse connectors.
MagSafe I believe goes through the same certification process, so more revenue to Apple.
In this case, there’s backward compatibility; I’m not forced to buy a MagSafe compliant product to charge my phone, whereas I am required to use a proprietary connector which experience has shown has frayed cabling.
But you still have to disconnect it to charge your phone.
Oh wait, there is another dongle for that... 🙄.
This is where we disagree, but we can agree that currently no locale exists with differing port installations.
I agree lightning as a concept is better but current execution has more to be desired, even wanting to transfer large files off a phone without media conversion is a pain
Of course speed is an important factor (well, actually it’s the USB specification and not the connector, as we saw with the iPad Pro using lightning with USB3.0, but let’s consider it altogether), and it will be very relevant for people that copy big files via wired connection.
But that’s not all. For example, I prefer the fact that Lightning has a male end (specially because you don’t have a exposed floating male conector inside your phone, susceptible to dust and breaking). Also, it’s smaller, which means more space for other components. And finally, a lot of people have Lightning accessories. It’s not my case, but I guess way more people will be pissed off because their stuff is not compatible, than people who will be happy because of the change.
"Lightning is competing great in that marketplace with Apple products supporting it" would be a more accurate statement.
The EU passed the law to reduce waste caused by using different charging connector standards. A tangential benefit would be Apple finally implementing a higher speed connection in their iPhones.
Is it that they need to be able to use USB-C, or only use USB-C (e.g. MagSafe isn't allowed)? Because that's a big difference, as most laptops sold today can charge via USB-C, Magsafe macbooks included.
Good thing this will have worldwide impact. Apple isn't going to make an iPhone with two different connectors.
And iPhone 16 will get USB-C only in the EU.
USA/Canada are stuck with Lightning forever 😂
So happy for EU using their big gov might to push for standardization - reduces e waste it’s a win win except for Apple. Oh well
ytei will, apple will hvange ports on all the eu/europe phones and this will include the uk
That's what I'd rather go after. End A and B (Micro). Lightning is fine if you just charge since you can insert it either way.
Only good thing is USB-C already exists. Not like when Lightning first appeared. And how is this good for the environment. The Lightning cables become obsolete over time, and people who never needed C now need to buy new cables.
Gonna be honest with you fam: A portless iPhone is a horrible idea on so many levels. Data transfer through wireless is jank and awful and slow, as is wireless charging. Not to mention going portless makes OS and data recovery a nightmare or near impossible. Professionals wanted USB-C on the iPhone for a reason.
And this isn't even counting headphones. It was bad enough when they cut the headphone jack. With no port for a dongle then wired headphones can't be used period, which means no more lossless quality or aux power.
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My phone charges via MagSafe.
...so you escaped one trap but fell into another. I see.
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Any company should be able to charge any product they make any way they want.
Had a USB-C cable get squeezed in my computer bag. It would not fit into the slot as the the internal connection blade was out of line with the mating space. Never had that issue with a Lightning cable.
Have had fewer than a dozen Lightning cables fail since they first came out and I have has many dozens of devices and traveled the world. It has been the most reliable cable end for me vs the dozens of proprietary cable ends (especially in the Windows/Android world).
Apple's recent laptops have both a MagSafe connector and several USB-C ports, any of which can be used to charge the laptop. No issues there.
It will be years before ALL of my Lightning devices die so will be using these cables for a long time.
Have had fewer than a dozen Lightning cables fail since they first came out and I have has many dozens of devices and traveled the world. It has been the most reliable cable end for me vs the dozens of proprietary cable ends (especially in the Windows/Android world).
Apple's recent laptops have both a MagSafe connector and several USB-C ports, any of which can be used to charge the laptop. No issues there.
It will be years before ALL of my Lightning devices die so will be using these cables for a long time.