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Let's wait and see on the User Replaceable Batteries ...
I mean apple would force you to an apple authorized service provider to have the user serviceable battery for the low low price of $129.99
Any non apple batteries cause your device to hard lock.
 
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Let's wait and see on the User Replaceable Batteries ...
AFAIK the iPhone batteries are already considered user replaceable by that EU law. They’re not glued and the device can be opened and closed without breaking anything. It didn’t mean that they need to be like LEGOs and be replaceable just pulling one piece and sticking another.

If anything that law would make Apple to sell iPhone batteries and I think is something they already do with the repair program.
 
It might be time to upgrade my Series 6 Apple Watch if they finally release a dark case Ultra. Just noted my battery is at 78% so it’s either that or a battery replacement…
 
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AFAIK the iPhone batteries are already considered user replaceable by that EU law. They’re not glued and the device can be opened and closed without breaking anything. It didn’t mean that they need to be like LEGOs and be replaceable just pulling one piece and sticking another.

If anything that law would make Apple to sell iPhone batteries and I think is something they already do with the repair program.
Nope, the EU mandate actually requires the batteries to be replaceable with basic tools without any extra knowledge or skills, so any user can easily replace it.

This definitely is not the case with current iPhones...

The battery case should be easily removable by hand or after removing Philips screws.


According to a draft version of the ecodesign regulation on the EU’s website, batteries should be replaceable “with no tool, a tool or set of tools that is supplied with the product or spare part, or basic tools.” It also says that spare parts should be available for up to seven years after a phone’s release, and, perhaps most importantly, “the process for replacement shall be able to be carried out by a layman.”
 
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Nope, the EU mandate actually requires the batteries to be replaceable with basic tools without any extra knowledge or skills, so any user can easily replace it.

This definitely is not the case with current iPhones...

The battery case should be easily removable by hand or after removing Philips screws.



I read both and I didn’t get the same idea as yours. Yes, it says using commercially available tools but also says that specialised tools are allowed if they are provided for free, like they are in apples newest repair program (you pay a deposit but later they return you the money). Also the process is not as hard as it seems, if people have been repairing their own cars, this is the same. Not complex but lengthy.

And I didn’t see lots of mentions about not requiring extra skills. They mention layman in the article but someone that just learns how to change just one element of their phone model wouldn’t be considered an expert IMO.
 
I read both and I didn’t get the same idea as yours. Yes, it says using commercially available tools but also says that specialised tools are allowed if they are provided for free,
No just for free. But they have to be included with the product for free.

Current iPhone battery replacement is nowhere near layman level nor level which EU targets.

EU meaning of layman is my and your grandparents. It's apparent from the whole mandate context. EU wants more batteries to be recycled. This whole mandate targets battery replacement to be like in the times of Nokia 3310. Where anyone could do it.

But you're free to have your opinion.
 
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Hahahha they included production issues resolved as part of the new features hahahaha the phone is so limited on new features they had to find a filler.
 
Doesn’t have to be. Apple could actually innovate and completely revamp iOS and give us a brand new OS (complete with pro software features to compete with android).

Yes. But that would be against Tim “don’t rock the boat” Cook’s apparent strategy with the iPhone.

But I agree completely. Please just give us one year of catching up to the basic features that Android has had for a decade. Just for one year skip crap like contact cards with bigger pictures and actually improve the core functionality.
 
Holy crap, can you imagine the pile of waste caused by every piece of battery-powered electronics including a screwdriver. That’s the complete opposite of what the EU wants.
Nope. It has to be accessible either with common tools (which is flat or philips screwdriver in example) OR supplied tools.

Also waste caused by not recycling phone batteries and from unnecessary phone sales being made because of bad battery is presumably much much worse.
 
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Nope. It has to be accessible either with common tools (which is flat or philips screwdriver in example) OR supplied tools.
"A portable battery should be considered to be removable by the end-user when it can be removed with the use of commercially available tools and without requiring the use of specialised tools, unless they are provided free of charge, or proprietary tools, thermal energy or solvents to disassemble it."

It's going to be Torx which is commercially available.
 
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"A portable battery should be considered to be removable by the end-user when it can be removed with the use of commercially available tools and without requiring the use of specialised tools, unless they are provided free of charge, or proprietary tools, thermal energy or solvents to disassemble it."

It's going to be Torx which is commercially available.
That's still completely fine if you ask me. Torx is easily available and if replacement of the battery would be just few Torx screws away I would call that win for the environment (and for the customers) - many people would replace and recycle their batteries instead of buying new phone after 2 or 3 years when the battery is already weaker.
 
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Camera bump haters will love this change because it will make the body of the phone thicker.
Does not have to necessarily. But yep, it's usually easier to just sandwich components together with a glue than add some screws or other bonding stuff which would not compromise design.

But Apple is mature company. They surely can figure this out. When they can easily find innovative ways how to milk their customers (incl. me), they surely can figure out how to make battery easily replaceable while retaining good design.
 
iPhone batteries already use adhesive pull strips, not glue.
But they rarely do work well. Also back phone cover is glued as well as screen (which you can easily break during whole process)...

Does anyone really want to say current procedure is layman friendly? Would your grandparents be able to do it themselves (if they don't work in phone repair industry)?

 
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Its ok, you can admit you didn't know the batteries weren't glued in.
I was taking about components in general, not specifically just about battery. And components which are required to be removed in order to replace the battery, are glued in place. I've also provided repair video in my last post as the source of my claims.

Read my post again. It's okay to admit you don't read posts you reply to.
 
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