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Touch Panel Suppliers Claim No Timeline for Shifting to iPhone 5 Production

Trying to tell y'all... the Verizon iPhone released in February may truly have switched up the game.

Apple & Verizon came together, and will make LTE work within the iPhone sooner than later, and AT&T is playing catch-up within their entire layout of LTE.

If there is indeed a wait on the iPhone 5(no June/July release), I'd expect it coming with LTE in the 1st quarter of 2012, or possibly this fall. Apple is making COIN on the iPhone 4, and the next big thing is - LTE(4G).

Apple is playing this smart as usual... Or this all could be a rumor, and the iPhone 5 will be here in a couple months for a 'normal' launch update, and the iPhone 6 will be the first to introduce LTE in 2012.

I really don't know... but I do think Apple is playing the Ace of Spades, and may hold on for a new release of the iPhone 4(especially in Verizon's case - Feb '11) before the market, and more emphatically, Verizon's market adoption is seen & heard... Think about it... Apple releases the Verizon iPhone in February, then 4 months later releases a new iPhone - there is some bad business going on there.

Apple is playing the cards right... just not for the consumer. :cool:
 
iphone5? ipad3? get real.....2011 nada

gullible people ............ wake up!

how bored/stupid are you!?

2012.......... yes.......

:)

............BORING.........................
 
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Eduardo1971 said:
kas23 said:
Actually, I hate to start a flamewar...As for my iPhone 4, it already seems a bit dated and laggy (takes 10 seconds to open Camera, laggy keyboard when searching in Maps, choppy animations in games). I think this is a software problem though. If Apple came out with a much more efficient and smoother iOS 5 (that made my iPhone 4 feel like a new phone), I would be perfectly satisfied.
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What!? I've had my iPhone 4 for seven whole days and I have not had this happen on my phone. Camera takes about 2-3 seconds to open on my phone-I do not have keyboard lag under maps and I have seen some amazing graphics (and no 'choppiness') with some of the games on my phone ('Death Rally' anyone?).

You might be having some problems with your phone-I haven't come across similar threads with your reported problems. I don't see this as a symptom of the iPhone 4 as being "a bit dated".
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If you havent seen any threads on choppy animations and a lag when opening up the Camera app, you likely haven't been to the iPhone forum. My problems are not unique. And if you think about it, 2-3 seconds to have the ability to shoot a picture is still way too long.

And besides, your phone is a full 7 days old. It's brand new! Everyone would expect it to be functioning perfectly. Mine is 10 months-old and feels long in the tooth.
 
billysea said:
For people who own the iPhone 4 and are happy with iPhone 5 being pushed back (so your phone still feel 'new'), this delay only means the iPhone 6 (the one that most of the iPhone 4 owners will be upgrading to) will also be pushed back when it comes to 2012. If Apple is going to release the iPhone 5 in September or later, the iPhone 6 will be out September 2012 at the earliest.

So basically, the whole timeline for bi-annual upgrade got screwed… (well, only for early buyers anyway.)
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things are 'pushed back' only if there is an original promised date - which there isn't. But let's say there is an 'expected' mid-summer release, and the product actually came out in Sept; there's still nothing to say apple won't release another iPhone in mid-summer in 2012.

Basically it's all guess-work.
 
crackbookpro said:
Trying to tell y'all... the Verizon iPhone released in February may truly have switched up the game.

Apple & Verizon came together, and will make LTE work within the iPhone sooner than later, and AT&T is playing catch-up within their entire layout of LTE.

If there is indeed a wait on the iPhone 5(no June/July release), I'd expect it coming with LTE in the 1st quarter of 2012, or possibly this fall. Apple is making COIN on the iPhone 4, and the next big thing is - LTE(4G).

Apple is playing this smart as usual... Or this all could be a rumor, and the iPhone 5 will be here in a couple months for a 'normal' launch update, and the iPhone 6 will be the first to introduce LTE in 2012.

I really don't know... but I do think Apple is playing the Ace of Spades, and may hold on for a new release of the iPhone 4(especially in Verizon's case - Feb '11) before the market, and more emphatically, Verizon's market adoption is seen & heard... Think about it... Apple releases the Verizon iPhone in February, then 4 months later releases a new iPhone - there is some bad business going on there.

Apple is playing the cards right... just not for the consumer. :cool:
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I do think Apple is taking a slower road on the iPhone5 for several reasons, but I do think it will be sooner than later.

Things Apple has going for it is the iPhone4 is still one of the best smart phones out there. Also, besides spec bumps and 4G (which is non-existent in 90% of the US), it's getting to a point where there's about as much as you can stick in a smart phone in there already. The other big advantage Apple has is they can give all iPhone4 customers a cool upgrade without touching the hardware. If they do a significant change with iOS5, it might be more than enough to carry us for another 6 months without any hardware envy.

I think fall may be it. Not sure yet... but I don't think the Verzion iPhone stopped or changed anything. I think it's more of a strategic plan to leverage all the components of the iPhone and iOS to keep it fresh.
 
crackbookpro said:
Trying to tell y'all... the Verizon iPhone released in February may truly have switched up the game.

Apple & Verizon came together, and will make LTE work within the iPhone sooner than later, and AT&T is playing catch-up within their entire layout of LTE.

If there is indeed a wait on the iPhone 5(no June/July release), I'd expect it coming with LTE in the 1st quarter of 2012, or possibly this fall. Apple is making COIN on the iPhone 4, and the next big thing is - LTE(4G).

Apple is playing this smart as usual... Or this all could be a rumor, and the iPhone 5 will be here in a couple months for a 'normal' launch update, and the iPhone 6 will be the first to introduce LTE in 2012.

I really don't know... but I do think Apple is playing the Ace of Spades, and may hold on for a new release of the iPhone 4(especially in Verizon's case - Feb '11) before the market, and more emphatically, Verizon's market adoption is seen & heard... Think about it... Apple releases the Verizon iPhone in February, then 4 months later releases a new iPhone - there is some bad business going on there.

Apple is playing the cards right... just not for the consumer. :cool:
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What percentage of iPhone users are on Verizon (world wide)? Serious question, because I don't see how Verizon getting the iPhone 4 has anything to do with an iPhone 5 release date. I really doubt 4g will be coming with the next iPhone. Everyone seems to think Verizon and its customers have some sort of power over apple. Wasn't an issue for the rest of the world and all the carriers and customers that got iPhones mid-cycle between the 3GS and 4.
 
I honestly don't care....my upgrade date was timed almost perfectly with the release of the iPhone 4 last year (Upgraded in late July once the damn phone was actually available without having to beat up hipsters in line IIRC), and unless they offer early upgrade deals better than what they have the last couple of years, I wouldn't be eligible to upgrade anyway. The iPad has taken up all of my iOS gaming, so really all I need an iPhone to do is be an iPod and use reference apps on the go (maps, wikipedia, soundhound, imdb, recipes, safari, banking, ebay, amazon, etc). Maybe one or two small games for Dr's office waiting rooms like Tiny Wings or Angry Birds, but I'm pretty sure the iPhone 4 will be able to handle that demanding load for years to come....

I'm even open to an iPhone lite- I don't need a powerhouse in my pocket and if I save some money, good deal.
 
makingdots said:
iPhone 4's screen is still great compare to other phones.
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I can vouch for this. I've been using Android these last two years, and I was looking to upgrade the phone this summer. At this point, it's either stay where I am or get iPhone5 whenever it drops. I have looked at a LOT of phones, and even those Android devices that DO use qHD screens look like garbage next to a Retina screen.

People keep telling me, 'oh, there's no difference if you hold it farther from your face--your eyes can't tell'. Well, I don't have super vision or anything, but seriously, I CAN tell. that 330+ ppi makes a hell of a difference, and as of right now, even after months for multiple Android device manufacturers to get their act together, not a one of them has a screen that can rival it. They have bigger, sure, but they do not have better.

It's actually kinda frustrating, as Android 2.2.3 is finally a solid, excellent little OS that totally bests iOS4x in many ways. But it seems no one can actually create hardware that's worthy of it.

So, it's come down to whether someone will actually design a better device for Android on par with iPhone, or if Apple will actually tweak iOS 5 enough to fix all the things everyone knows is wrong with it.

I honestly don't know which is more likely, as they both seem pretty damned UNlikely.
 
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If you havent seen any threads on choppy animations and a lag when opening up the Camera app, you likely haven't been to the iPhone forum. My problems are not unique. And if you think about it, 2-3 seconds to have the ability to shoot a picture is still way too long.

And besides, your phone is a full 7 days old. It's brand new! Everyone would expect it to be functioning perfectly. Mine is 10 months-old and feels long in the tooth.
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try windoze mobile if you are unhappy? and then complain again......

there is NO current OS that shall satisfy the ...
 
This probably means the screens are the same, or maybe suppliers are keeping their mouths shut for once
 
jayenh said:
What percentage of iPhone users are on Verizon (world wide)? Serious question, because I don't see how Verizon getting the iPhone 4 has anything to do with an iPhone 5 release date. I really doubt 4g will be coming with the next iPhone. Everyone seems to think Verizon and its customers have some sort of power over apple. Wasn't an issue for the rest of the world and all the carriers and customers that got iPhones mid-cycle between the 3GS and 4.
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It has everything do with it. You must not know much about variable costs within a business atmosphere. Many variables for sales & production with a release like Apple made in February of 2011. That release could easily have been guided through strategic corporate planning... for LTE... for Verizon... for market saturation & adoption... there are a lot of variables to think about.

More importantly, why do you think it doesn't? We are talking about LTE, and its adoption throughout a given marketplace.

In the U.S., 4G is not adopted entirely, and I am talking about true 4G. Verizon will be the first network. Sprint does not have 4G data capabilities, it is a mere marketing ploy - they have WiMax. AT&T will be the network to follow suit behind Verizon with a strong network of LTE. And then, if you get into countries, and their adoption(s) of LTE, then you are even more focused on your marketplace, and all the variable costs within production & sales.

My 2nd Question to you is - Are you one of the many who thought Verizon would never be getting an iPhone?
 
imola.zhp said:
thanks for continuing to screw us 3gS owners over Apple...

My phone is on its last leg, dropping calls all of the time, have to charge it 3 times a day. If I had known this, I would have already bought a 4...
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Yeah, my 3gs is slowly dying a similar death. The battery is dying. My guess is the other problems I have (spontaneous shutdown under certain conditions) are related to the battery since they seem to happen with > ~40% remaining.

I really don't think I can make it until September with this phone since I already can't alwaysy get a full day's use out of it without recharging and the battery seems to get worse daily. I'm not a heavy user either.

Been curious about Andriod for a while now... hm...
 
jayenh said:
What percentage of iPhone users are on Verizon (world wide)? Serious question, because I don't see how Verizon getting the iPhone 4 has anything to do with an iPhone 5 release date. I really doubt 4g will be coming with the next iPhone. Everyone seems to think Verizon and its customers have some sort of power over apple. Wasn't an issue for the rest of the world and all the carriers and customers that got iPhones mid-cycle between the 3GS and 4.
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Agreed, Apple marches to it' s own beat.

They will however IMO make any new iphones with dual chips and (hopefully) more memory.

Still like my iphone 3GS and have the luxury to wait out any release as of September this year.

Don't always need the latest. If things work don't mess with it.

Like everybody I do have a wish list of what the next iphone I buy should have.

Usually Apple only gives you about half of what you want :)
 
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It will last, I have a 2g model still and it is wide open, it was under water for 20 min and it still works . I should be saying what you are saying lol
 
Couldn't care less when iphone5 or 4gs or whatever comes out. My iphone4 is an excellent device and delivers everything I could want from a smart phone.
Bit like ipad2, no need to rush out to upgrade any more, the originals are fine
 
Hmm.. I think Apple is keeping a tight lip on the iPhone 5. It's probably the most top secret objective atm, due to last year's iPhone 4 leak.
If anything Apple could have released the iPad 2 in September, because they're still on top of the tablet market, but smartphone wise they're lacking big time. Apple instead needs to step up their A game in the smartphone market and not releasing an iPhone 5 this year will be plain stupidity.
I'm not believing any of this until WWDC, i remember seeing enough articles saying that the iPad 2 will be released in Fall as well.

Btw guys, even if they are pushing the release date back to Fall, i highly doubt it's because of the Verizon iPhone, i think Apple knows how few people bought those. I'm sure Apple is more concerned with AT&T, and the whole world, instead of the small iPhone population in Verizon.
 
Dainin said:
The screen may not change on the next revision. So there may be no need to change production.
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That's exactly what I was thinking. How would the touch screen manufacturers know which phone they're producing the screens for? If Foxconn was saying this, then that would be different since they're the ones assembling the phones.
 
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The tech at the Cingular store told me it would be next year before 5 will appear. Not sure how reliable that is or where he got his info. I asked him how sure of that he was. He stated he was very sure.
 
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