jruc4871 said:
Thanks you for pointing this fact out. I have said it time and time again, and many people simply do not realize that this is indeed the case. You are not allowed to copy a DVD onto your HD, even if you own it. Legally of course.
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Touch Screen Video iPod Coming Soon?
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Thanks you for pointing this fact out. I have said it time and time again, and many people simply do not realize that this is indeed the case. You are not allowed to copy a DVD onto your HD, even if you own it. Legally of course.
DJ Bliss said:
Now we're talkin'! Except I doubt that DVD ripping is something that Apple will allow, copyright laws and all. Everything else would work though, a perpendicular 80Gb HD, increased resolution, a larger screen, and a true TV out capability with upscaling for TV viewing. Heck they could use a Nano Click Wheel. It seemed to me to be a better unit that the 5G Ipod one. The Click Wheel on the 5G Ipod seems to big to me. The Nano's is about the size of my thumb which works better. Of course this is only if Apple doesn't go with a touch screen.
Ok, hear me out on this one... Apple has already paid for each Mac to have a licensed CSS decrypter (each copy of OS X comes with DVD Player). Since the decrypter is already there and legit, I'm wondering if it would be legal for them to decode a DVD through that and output the stream to a QT encoder instead of the display. That could allow for legal copying of a movie to an iPod... it would be analogous to recording a DVD onto your VCR using a set top DVD player. Only trouble there would be throttling the input for less than real time encoding on (most) Macs available right now.
BTW, I like the idea that this is NOT an iPod, but rather an iTablet. Up the screen to 7" or so, give it software for an iPod like music experience, or an iTunes like music experience depending on how you hold it (hold it vertically and get an iPod like screen, horizontal for an iTunes like interface - when you are have the music player active).
Add in 802.11g, a big 'ole HDD, good video playback and output to TV features, a version of Mail/Address Book and Safari, build in a Quartz like PDF rendering system, and a copy of TextEdit and you would have a pretty nice little machine.
BTW, I like the idea that this is NOT an iPod, but rather an iTablet. Up the screen to 7" or so, give it software for an iPod like music experience, or an iTunes like music experience depending on how you hold it (hold it vertically and get an iPod like screen, horizontal for an iTunes like interface - when you are have the music player active).
Add in 802.11g, a big 'ole HDD, good video playback and output to TV features, a version of Mail/Address Book and Safari, build in a Quartz like PDF rendering system, and a copy of TextEdit and you would have a pretty nice little machine.
3.5 inch screen seems a good travel size. I like my psp size but think sony totally missed the boat with limiting it's storage capacity. sony should have set up a site to download games and store the games on the psp like hacked xbox. would a horizontal ipod have enough room for touch keyboard so crackberry, treo users (me) could only have one device to carry around? I know they can get a phone in there too. i love the idea of the oqo but have a heart attack seeing the price.
whatever....
I have to admit the new iPod every 5 months is getting to be a little ridiculous. They are getting a negative wrap from people who are now starting to think, "why buy an iPod, it will be out of date in a few months anyway" Now if they were a company like Sony where they are loyal to their customers then it wouldn't be a big deal, but Apple is starting to get a reputation of leaving their customers behind. With every new product the older ones become obsolete.
I have to admit the new iPod every 5 months is getting to be a little ridiculous. They are getting a negative wrap from people who are now starting to think, "why buy an iPod, it will be out of date in a few months anyway" Now if they were a company like Sony where they are loyal to their customers then it wouldn't be a big deal, but Apple is starting to get a reputation of leaving their customers behind. With every new product the older ones become obsolete.
mrgreen4242 said:
It would also be my ideal machine. A PDA replacement that doesn't suck and much smaller than a laptop (the 12" PowerBook is small, but not that small).
Not sure about the 7" LCD though... I'm betting on an iPod form factor, but sideways. If the whole face is an LCD, it gives you about the same display size as the PSP (or close to it).
raindog said:
well, you see, another way to put this would be:
while all the other companies pretty much continue selling the same old products, Apple continually innovates.
I don't see how bringing out better versions of their products in a shorter timeframe than their competitors could get them a bad reputation ?!
Sorry if this has already been said, the thread is to big to read all. IMO I would be all for a video iPod. My only concern is for this to be truly effective Steve Jobs needs to do deals in other countries to add content.
There would still be a market, like I mean Lost, Desperate House Wife's and other shows have just began to air the new season in Australia. They could localise for that market.
There would still be a market, like I mean Lost, Desperate House Wife's and other shows have just began to air the new season in Australia. They could localise for that market.
Lots of other uses for ths little device
A device like that could do much more than play videosand music. It could also be used as a "tablet computer" like a palm. Adding this type of functionality would not cost any more (except for ther software R&D) It might even be able to load 3rd party apps.
The device would have to have a USB connector like current iPods do. Why not a cable to allow a keyboard. Then you'd have a great little device for taking notes in a class or meeting wel, except for the keyboard part. I don't kow how to make a god portible keyboard
Point is to think of other uses for the basic device that cold be done with software only.
Macrumors said:
A device like that could do much more than play videosand music. It could also be used as a "tablet computer" like a palm. Adding this type of functionality would not cost any more (except for ther software R&D) It might even be able to load 3rd party apps.
The device would have to have a USB connector like current iPods do. Why not a cable to allow a keyboard. Then you'd have a great little device for taking notes in a class or meeting wel, except for the keyboard part. I don't kow how to make a god portible keyboard
Point is to think of other uses for the basic device that cold be done with software only.
(L) said:
im in the same boat. video is neato. but not why i want an ipod. i have a large music collection. the current 60gigger wouldn't hold it all. for this reason, i haven't bought my first one either. bigger HD and im in.
all that said, i would really love an apple pda. i had a newton in the day. great machine. they need to re-visit that technology. apple would make a great pda. i have and use a palm. i would love to have an apple pda.
My guess is that the new ibook (but maybe named differently) will be a tablet, and that this device is the one depicted in the patents linked to this thread. I doubt there will be a new portable video player unless it also has many other functions (and thus becoming a tablet). Of coure, Apple may market it differently.
An iPod with "full screen" would be cool indeed. I posted a nice photoshop work of me in this formus a few week ago by the way. 
I agree for the fingerprint issue. Although the iPod has had a wheel input from the start, it's not said this design element has to be kept in the full screen model. By the way, as a mechanical device, the actual clickwheel takes some place as you have to be able to press it inwards. You could use these few milimeters for a thicker battery instead. Think of alternative input methods that don't ruin the display with finger prints: make touchable surfaces around the screen (like another mp3 player out there... I think it's iRiver...). So you would move your fingertip below the screen to scroll inside a movie, right of the screen to adjust volume. Above the screen would be for pause/play etc... you get the idea. When using the device for playing audio, the whole length of the device could serve for scrolling.
Simply putting the clickwheel on the back of the device might work too. Noone really needs to actually look on the labels of the clickwheel, right? This solution would also retain that tactile sensation given by a clickwheel.
Remember that patent where having an apple laptop on a desk and whacking the desk makes the laptop scroll to the next page? Wouldn't it be nice to slap the iPod on order to perform actions? Something like: Slap once for pause/play, twice for menu, twist to the left for << and to the right for >>, etx. You could even shake the iPod like in the TV ads and it plays a song that matches your shaking speed. I'd love that. That would be tough for the hard drive though making flash memory necessary.
But to stay realistic, didn't apple introduce the iPod remote? That would be an easy method for user input although implying you need two hands, one or holding the iPod and one for controling it. But i can imagine holding the device in my hands when in a train and having the remote in a pocket or hanging on the earphones. If apple really has a true Video iPod in development, I think the clickwheel will be replaced by some more common controls (buttons, trackpad) on the device itself and a more comfortable remote.
Now for DVD-Ripping out of the box. Why not? I mean, iTunes ripps copyrighted CDs, why not do the same for DVDs? I'd love to have all my movies and songs on a single device. The Core Duo Macs should handle converting MPEG2 into h2.64 quie nicely since that's mostly CPU-work and the Core Duo performed well for audio encoding already.
I agree for the fingerprint issue. Although the iPod has had a wheel input from the start, it's not said this design element has to be kept in the full screen model. By the way, as a mechanical device, the actual clickwheel takes some place as you have to be able to press it inwards. You could use these few milimeters for a thicker battery instead. Think of alternative input methods that don't ruin the display with finger prints: make touchable surfaces around the screen (like another mp3 player out there... I think it's iRiver...). So you would move your fingertip below the screen to scroll inside a movie, right of the screen to adjust volume. Above the screen would be for pause/play etc... you get the idea. When using the device for playing audio, the whole length of the device could serve for scrolling.
Simply putting the clickwheel on the back of the device might work too. Noone really needs to actually look on the labels of the clickwheel, right? This solution would also retain that tactile sensation given by a clickwheel.
Remember that patent where having an apple laptop on a desk and whacking the desk makes the laptop scroll to the next page? Wouldn't it be nice to slap the iPod on order to perform actions? Something like: Slap once for pause/play, twice for menu, twist to the left for << and to the right for >>, etx. You could even shake the iPod like in the TV ads and it plays a song that matches your shaking speed. I'd love that. That would be tough for the hard drive though making flash memory necessary.
But to stay realistic, didn't apple introduce the iPod remote? That would be an easy method for user input although implying you need two hands, one or holding the iPod and one for controling it. But i can imagine holding the device in my hands when in a train and having the remote in a pocket or hanging on the earphones. If apple really has a true Video iPod in development, I think the clickwheel will be replaced by some more common controls (buttons, trackpad) on the device itself and a more comfortable remote.
Now for DVD-Ripping out of the box. Why not? I mean, iTunes ripps copyrighted CDs, why not do the same for DVDs? I'd love to have all my movies and songs on a single device. The Core Duo Macs should handle converting MPEG2 into h2.64 quie nicely since that's mostly CPU-work and the Core Duo performed well for audio encoding already.
I just flew cross country yesterday and was watching a number of people whip out their laptops and watch movies. Since I was in coach on a full flightjruc4871 said:
, this was non trivial for most of them and I started thinking that what I'd really like to have under my seat is an "iMac mini". If you want to call this an iTablet or iPad, so be it. Basically something that might fit behind a 5-8" 16:9 screen. i.e. a bit bigger than a PSP. CPU, HD and a dock connector + USB ports to be able to hook it up to a remote, clickwheel or keyboard and enable syncing with another computer.
We'll see if there's any truth to the rumors soon enough...
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I guess I'll have to hold off buying my 5G. I think they will have this be a sort of iPod Photo kinda thing. Like remember there was the 4G and then the Photo for like $49 more. I think that will happen here. I guess I would have to actually see the thing before making any decision though. I have to say though, won't it be annoying to touch the screen? I know I do my best NOT to touch my Mini's screen currently.
Yvan256 said:
It is not illegal to rip a DVD that you own in the U.S. for your own use. What's illegal is SELLING the software to do so. Once you obtain the software and don't distribute the content to others, you are fine.
~Shard~ said:
Perhaps in Canada. Bose sells Lifestyle systems with a HDD for storing DVDs on it. Perfectly legal here and I believe it does fall under fair use.