Well, if you don't like the $20 update to a full PDA, there's always this: http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/handheld/PC/1/storefronts/FA979AA%23ABA Same price as the 8Gig Touch. But, you'll have to get a memory card as it only has 256Megs, and don't loose the little stylus! For $20, you can update your iPod to a PDA? A steal if you ask me... Do you have to spend the $20? If you're just using it as an iPod, can't you skip the upgrade?