TouchID should have been integrated into Apple logo

[bslow1]

I understand that putting the fingerprint reader underneath the screen was costly and difficult. But there is no reason why they couldn't have put it on the back. There is a big, useless Apple logo already on the back.... why not integrate the scanner into the apple?

FaceID looks a little cumbersome; it's slower, and not necessarily as convenient for things like Apple Pay. And you know that while Apple was hyping up FaceID, they're gonna bring back TouchID in a year or two and hype that up all over again.

 

[New_Mac_Smell]

Many, many reasons why not to put one on the back. Primarily no one wants it...

It's difficult to use when on the back, physically you have to reach around and locate the button, and it interferes with things such as just having it lying in a desk. There's also the issue of cases requiring huge cutouts in order for the fingerprint scanner to work. Putting them on the back is not progressing a design, it's hap-hazzardly solving a problem that exists when physical buttons are removed from the front of a phone.

FaceID was shown to be less cumbersome and faster than TouchID, so not sure where you're coming from really.

 

[bslow1]

Many, many reasons why not to put one on the back. Primarily no one wants it...

It's difficult to use when on the back, physically you have to reach around and locate the button, and it interferes with things such as just having it lying in a desk. There's also the issue of cases requiring huge cutouts in order for the fingerprint scanner to work. Putting them on the back is not progressing a design, it's hap-hazzardly solving a problem that exists when physical buttons are removed from the front of a phone.

FaceID was shown to be less cumbersome and faster than TouchID, so not sure where you're coming from really.

Making a hole in a case for the fingerprint scanner is hardly an issue... it's done for the camera, and for side buttons. From other phones I've used, the scanner on the back was more convenient than the one on the front. The best was Sony's implementation of the scanner in the power button on the side, IMO.

Just from the demo we saw today, FaceID is not less cumbersome or faster. Maybe with some updates it can be, but it isn't right now. It seems a bit less convenient.

 

[New_Mac_Smell]

So you actually prefer a fingerprint sensor on the rear of a product than the front? Okay...

 

[santela]

Many, many reasons why not to put one on the back. Primarily no one wants it...

It's difficult to use when on the back, physically you have to reach around and locate the button, and it interferes with things such as just having it lying in a desk. There's also the issue of cases requiring huge cutouts in order for the fingerprint scanner to work. Putting them on the back is not progressing a design, it's hap-hazzardly solving a problem that exists when physical buttons are removed from the front of a phone.

FaceID was shown to be less cumbersome and faster than TouchID, so not sure where you're coming from really.

No one wants it? Are you representing millions of iPhone users? At least for me having it on the back is much better than not having it at all.

And no, it was shown to be obviously more cumbersome than Touch ID.

 

[bslow1]

So you actually prefer a fingerprint sensor on the rear of a product than the front? Okay...

Sure. Back before every phone HAD to be "bezel-less", having the scanner on the back meant you didn't have to waste real estate on a button on the front. Now, like I said, I still think the implementation of the scanner in the Power button on the side is best because that's where I grip the phone, but even on the back, my index finger is back there supporting the phone most of the time anyway.

Really, none of the placements are "difficult". It's not like we're toiling in the fields. It's a matter of moving a finger.

 

[chilman]

So you actually prefer a fingerprint sensor on the rear of a product than the front? Okay...

I like the touch id more than face id, the face id the user has to always look into the screen and need more processing time to activate. The touch id the user do not have to look into the screen and just need to touch the sensor. Why did apple not name the ip8 as the ip7S. The 8 still looks the same and size the same just wrapped in glass material.

 

[bslow1]

I like the touch id more than face id, the face id the user has to always look into the screen and need more processing time to activate. The touch id the user do not have to look into the screen and just need to touch the sensor. Why did apple not name the ip8 as the ip7S. The 8 still looks the same and size the same just wrapped in glass material.

They might have felt that calling it "7S" made it feel too inferior to the iPhone X. But I'm guessing after this, we're just skipping 9 and 9S, and going to 11 or XI, or whatever they want to call it.

 

[roland.g]

Face ID really is the answer. Not sure if Voice ID could have been used as well, not instead but as an option.

Really the only question with Face ID is whether to skip the 2017 iPhone X and wait for the 2018 version when undoubtedly there will be an improvement to both the Face ID hardware and software.

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They might have felt that calling it "7S" made it feel too inferior to the iPhone X. But I'm guessing after this, we're just skipping 9 and 9S, and going to 11 or XI, or whatever they want to call it.

Next year we will see the iPhone XS. Called the Ten S. Except for down in Australia where they will debut the iPhone INXS, though it won't be the iPhone In Excess, it will be the iPhone Intense.

 

[44267547]

I like the touch id more than face id, the face id the user has to always look into the screen and need more processing time to activate. The touch id the user do not have to look into the screen and just need to touch the sensor. Why did apple not name the ip8 as the ip7S. The 8 still looks the same and size the same just wrapped in glass material.

I think Face ID will need an adaptation phase for some. Touch ID has been so convenient for so many years. But fortunately there are options for those who perhaps are not interested in Face ID in the iPhone 8 will offer that. But I question if Apple will go to Face ID entirely next year for the iPhone line up once this new technology has time to mature.

 

[trifid]

I understand that putting the fingerprint reader underneath the screen was costly and difficult. But there is no reason why they couldn't have put it on the back. There is a big, useless Apple logo already on the back.... why not integrate the scanner into the apple?

FaceID looks a little cumbersome; it's slower, and not necessarily as convenient for things like Apple Pay. And you know that while Apple was hyping up FaceID, they're gonna bring back TouchID in a year or two and hype that up all over again.

That's a great idea actually...

 

[bambooshots]

No thanks. Not a fan of fingerprint readers on the back of devices.

 

[kingalexthe1st]

That's not a bad idea. It would have been an a-ha moment in the keynote, and it could serve as a back-up for those who don't like or trust FaceID yet.

 

[joeblow7777]

So you actually prefer a fingerprint sensor on the rear of a product than the front? Okay...

Personally, I prefer it on the rear than not present at all. Your earlier statement that "no one wants it" is clearly not accurate.

 

[Jervasio]

I would actually prefer having the touch ID either in the apple logo or the power button. I think it was stupid idea to remove. We should have options.
A) We don't know how reliable/fast face ID is
B) It's gonna take some time till it gets adopted and till then, I'm gonna have to use pass codes in every freaking app..

 

[Damstr]

I would've loved that. It's easy to find on my 7 Plus. The natural way you hold your iPhone practically puts your index finger on top of the Apple logo already.

 

[sammy2066]

Many, many reasons why not to put one on the back. Primarily no one wants it...

It's difficult to use when on the back, physically you have to reach around and locate the button, and it interferes with things such as just having it lying in a desk. There's also the issue of cases requiring huge cutouts in order for the fingerprint scanner to work. Putting them on the back is not progressing a design, it's hap-hazzardly solving a problem that exists when physical buttons are removed from the front of a phone.

FaceID was shown to be less cumbersome and faster than TouchID, so not sure where you're coming from really.

I own an iPhone 7 Plus, and a Pixel XL - the fingerprint sensor on the back is very convenient, and not at all awkward or cumbersome. I couldn't care less about case makers having to cut holes in their cases. You are right about one thing; it is impossible to unlock the device when it's lying on a flat surface, but that's easy to tackle with a combination of facial recognition and a fingerprint sensor on the back. My point is that having a fingerprint sensor on the back is not at all haphazard, but rather a very elegant solution if you run out of space for buttons on the front of the device.

 

[MisterMillz]

I’m an apple fan but I used the Pixel XL for a while. Surprisingly I enjoyed using the scanner on the back. It was comfortable, natural, and accurate. However, I believe OP didn’t say he’d PREFER the scanner on the back. I think he was getting at the idea of having a scanner on the back rather than no scanner at all. I too prefer Touch ID to face ID. One of several reasons I’m upgrading to the 8.

 

[sammy2066]

I’m an apple fan but I used the Pixel XL for a while. Surprisingly I enjoyed using the scanner on the back. It was comfortable, natural, and accurate. However, I believe OP didn’t say he’d PREFER the scanner on the back. I think he was getting at the idea of having a scanner on the back rather than no scanner at all. I too prefer Touch ID to face ID. One of several reasons I’m upgrading to the 8.

Funny thing is that the Pixel XL had plenty of chin of the front to accommodate a fingerprint sensor - but it works equally well on the back too.

 

[Mlrollin91]

For all those that want TouchID on the rear, you clearly do not work at a desk or table and keep your phone screen up on said desk or table. Being on the rear of the device would be literally useless to me (and millions of people). My phone is always flat down, face up. I never have to pickup the device to unlock it or use it. Being on the back would require that.

 

[Strelok]

For all those that want TouchID on the rear, you clearly do not work at a desk or table and keep your phone screen up on said desk or table. Being on the rear of the device would be literally useless to me (and millions of people). My phone is always flat down, face up. I never have to pickup the device to unlock it or use it. Being on the back would require that.

Ok? So use FaceID in those situations. Do you guys just hate having more than one option or something? The OP never said this should have been done instead of FaceID, just that it should have been included.

 

[Mlrollin91]

Ok? So use FaceID in those situations. Do you guys just hate having more than one option or something? The OP never said this should have been done instead of FaceID, just that it should have been included.

Reread the post. This is INSTEAD of FaceID, not in addition.

That is made clear by the second paragraph: "FaceID looks a little cumbersome; it's slower, and not necessarily as convenient for things like Apple Pay. And you know that while Apple was hyping up FaceID, they're gonna bring back TouchID in a year or two and hype that up all over again."

 

[chilman]

Reread the post. This is INSTEAD of FaceID, not in addition.

That is made clear by the second paragraph: "FaceID looks a little cumbersome; it's slower, and not necessarily as convenient for things like Apple Pay. And you know that while Apple was hyping up FaceID, they're gonna bring back TouchID in a year or two and hype that up all over again."

I like the current choices, touch id and good 'ol password. They are still very secure. Face id tech is just an addition to these 2. I'm not sure how face id will react to our face, sometimes our face changes such as getting thinner or wider. For women will the cosmetic they are using changes the protocols or not. Like the current ip7 edition and before. The user has the option to use password or touch id. I use touch id, just touch and I don't hv to pick up the phone it is unlock. I Compared the new iphone X with samsung note 8, the note 8 is a bit cheaper but has less internal memory only 64gigs, but has a memory card slot up to 256 gigs n larger screen. The design is great and it feels good in the hand. Lets see if the iphone X will measure up in the market but I'm not as exited to own it now.

 

[Donoban]

So many luddites here.

Welcome to the 21st century.

Welcome to change.

Face ID is a simple idea to remove the home button and maximise screen realestate.

Why go back?

 

[Brandonjr36]

So many luddites here.

Welcome to the 21st century.

Welcome to change.

Face ID is a simple idea to remove the home button and maximise screen realestate.

Why go back?

I guess some of us just prefer Touch ID. I’ve had my X since November and still prefer Touch ID. Honestly when the galaxy s10 comes out if it has the finderprint sensor under the display I will probably switch to it. Unless apple does it on their next model.