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Can we pay extra to have that feature removed? 😉

Seriously, I would LOVE an OLED MacBook Pro, but could not care less about touchscreen support. In fact, it hurts my shoulder(s) when I have to use my iPad upright (like on a music stand), as a MacBook Pro screen would be.

I guess it's good they're now giving people a choice 🤷‍♂️
 
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Stop asking for MacOS, as it will never work as intended. Start asking for iPadOS to be better.
I don't want iPadOS to be better. I want to take an iPad Pro, plug it into an external display (or two) and have a full MacOS environment. When I'm done, I disconnect, throw my iPad in a bag, and go. Whether MacOS is available without being "docked" is a question, but I want an ultra portable that can become a true workhorse.
 
Apple apparently is not going to advertise the ‌new MacBook Pro‌/Ultra as a touch-first device like the ‌iPad‌ – it will be "touch-friendly, not touch-first

As i mentioned in a previous post, MacOS will NEVER work on an iPad.

1. iPad's use NAND Flash storage. users would never be able to format a drive as they would on MacOS
2. Due to the fact that iPad used 16GB of RAM with no active cooling, users would see severe red memory pressure, lag and slow-down. Even with a vapor chamber, the 5.1mm thickness would not help.

The list is endless

Stop asking for MacOS, as it will never work as intended. Start asking for iPadOS to be better
Who do you think controls macOS?
 
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The touchscreen does not add extra weight, Apple has requested that Samsung, the supplier of the OLEDs, use on cell Touch panels. That means that the touch layer is implemented directly onto the Display instead of being a separate layer.
Also, the next generation MacBook Pro is rumored to get a redesign that makes it thinner and lighter, and OLED can be thinner and lighter.
I swear, what is happening in this thread? Touchscreen is adding thousands and thousands of dollars to the cost, adding 2 pounds of weight, A big, massive technological hurdle Apple has to get past…
You guys realize there have been like sub $500 Windows computers with multi-touch displays? Or you know, the iPad?.
Not sure how my comment of "It will add weight and complexity to a given product. (Hopefully offset by tandem OLED)" foresees adding "2 pounds of weight".

In weight terms, does the OLED fully offset the heavier glass and hinge needed for the touchscreen? Just curious. No exaggeration. Just curious.
 
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I have a touchscreen Windows laptop and honestly I never use the touchscreen, I forget it's even there. But that's just me, and some people do use it, so making it an option is good.

My only gripe will be if they don't retain a powerful non-touch MacBook Pro at a (presumably) lower price point, because I've got zero interest in paying extra for a touchscreen Mac.

I have an iPad for drawing and handwriting, and the laptop form factor is very weak for those uses, so forcing us to merge into a single device would be bad.

But as an option for those people who do enjoy touching their laptop screen, hey why not?
 
I think it's safe to say that the demographic who wants a touchscreen Mac simply isn't on MacRumors.
I think it's probably something they should have as an option. But not as a norm. However, Apple's past track record has often seen norming when it comes to UI design. Bigger phones (which I like but leave a big gap for smaller devices); a very narrow range of acceptable pixel density for displays; and limitations on customization in the OS UI all stand out as examples.
 
I think it's probably something they should have as an option. But not as a norm. However, Apple's past track record has often seen norming when it comes to UI design. Bigger phones (which I like but leave a big gap for smaller devices); a very narrow range of acceptable pixel density for displays; and limitations on customization in the OS UI all stand out as examples.

I'm quite concerned about that aspect as well -- good point!

- A scorned lover iPhone Mini user
 
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its a touch friendly option...not an mandatory option...what are you talking about?
i 100% confirm this macbook still have mouse and trackpad support
Like touchbar...this is true...Gurman said is true, its true.
their point wasn't that you won't be able to use a mouse/trackpad instead of touch. their point was that it will suck if there's no option to buy a MacBook Pro without a touchscreen at a lower price, because otherwise this would be forcing everyone to pay for the touchscreen they don't want to use. I have no idea if that's the case, but it would be a way for them to increase prices, by just making all MacBook Pros more expensive with a touchscreen and other upgrades, so I can see them doing it.
 
their point wasn't that you won't be able to use a mouse/trackpad instead of touch. their point was that it will suck if there's no option to buy a MacBook Pro without a touchscreen at a lower price, because otherwise this would be forcing everyone to pay for the touchscreen they don't want to use. I have no idea if that's the case, but it would be a way for them to increase prices, by just making all MacBook Pros more expensive with a touchscreen and other upgrades, so I can see them doing it.

I really wish Apple would allow for BTO options on Macbook screens.

I'd like a 15" MBA with an OLED screen.

Someone else may want a MBP with a normal high quality LCD

And the next person may prefer an MBP with a touchscreen OLED.

It feels so outdated to be selling these all as totally predefined appliances still, given all the screen choices and amazing options and various preferences that exist.
 
In that case, it absolutely should not be a pass for you, given that the touchscreen is very likely to come accompanied with the oleophobic coating from the iPhone and iPad. If you don’t touch the screen, it should still make smudges less noticeable or easier to clean.
Fair point. Worth considering depending on specs when it's released.

I personally hope for something even smaller than a Neo, akin to the old 12" MacBooks of the mid 2010's... but I have a feeling this will come to something higher end first.
 
This is the touchbar v2. It'll disappear a couple of years later.

Touchscreens on laptops are mostly useless because the posture is just terrible compared to tablets or phones.
 
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Reading most comments here, it feels like the title of the article was "Apple to kidnap children of people who don't use their new touch screens on Macs".
Calm down. It's gonna be an option for people who want it. And even if it's gonna be on every Mac, you can just avoid using it and probably turn it off.
 
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Not sure how my comment of "It will add weight and complexity to a given product. (Hopefully offset by tandem OLED)" foresees adding "2 pounds of weight".

In weight terms, does the OLED fully offset the heavier glass and hinge needed for the touchscreen? Just curious. No exaggeration. Just curious.
The touch layer will be embedded directly into the display and glass, no extra weight at all.
Additionally, OLED displays are significantly thinner than the current Mini LED used in The current MacBook pros.
It will be, no exaggeration, just like the current iPad pros. Last I checked, I don’t think anyone is complaining about how thick and heavy the 5.1 millimeter thin barely a pound iPad is, and most of its weight comes from the column running down the middle of it inside that keeps it structurally sound.
 
Steve's dead, with a 100% chance of remaining dead into this evening. If we look at the map, we can see that he will continue to be dead into next week, followed by an extended period of being dead well into the rest of summer and fall. Long range forecast models show that he will remain dead.

Rumor has it Steve will be up and around again Oct 31-Nov 1 this year.

I’m declaring myself a “leaker” so it must be true.
 
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It’s bad enough that the keyboard can leave permanent imprints on a MacBook screen from finger oils and the lack of space between the keyboard and display. Now imagine doubling the cleaning problem by adding fingerprints directly on the screen. Even though I meticulously wipe down my keyboard before closing the laptop and putting it in my backpack, I still have marks on the screen that I cannot remove because of extended contact with the keyboard. Heat from laptop probably bakes the marks into the screen.
 
It’s bad enough that the keyboard can leave permanent imprints on a MacBook screen from finger oils and the lack of space between the keyboard and display. Now imagine doubling the cleaning problem by adding fingerprints directly on the screen. Even though I meticulously wipe down my keyboard before closing the laptop and putting it in my backpack, I still have marks on the screen that I cannot remove because of extended contact with the keyboard. Heat from laptop probably bakes the marks into the screen.

I've started laying down a super thin microfiber cloth when I close up my Macbook.

It's thin enough to not cause any closing issues and seems to be doing a great job keeping finger oils off the screen.
 
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