A car can also turn into a weapon if you decide to fiddle with the infotainment system while driving. I wouldn't mind the government to lock out some features if the car is moving in order to save a few lives. People are already killing others by texting. Last thing we need is some air head playing with the center console going 70mph. I got enough crap to worry about while driving.
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Toyota Currently Has No Plans to Support CarPlay or Android Auto in U.S.
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A car can also turn into a weapon if you decide to fiddle with the infotainment system while driving. I wouldn't mind the government to lock out some features if the car is moving in order to save a few lives. People are already killing others by texting. Last thing we need is some air head playing with the center console going 70mph. I got enough crap to worry about while driving.
Toyota fail
I've had two Toyota cars, both which lasted well past 10 years without any major problems. I used to love their cars.
However, a few months ago when I was shopping for a new car, I was disappointed to find that Toyota really hadn't done anything new or innovative since the Prius. Their touch-screen interface seemed lacking and incompatible with the evolving integration between cars and devices.
I jumped ship and bought a Honda instead, which had excellent integration with Apple products and deep integration with Siri. Honda has worked hard to build an interface that works seamlessly with iPhone. I suspect that they will have full CarPlay integration within the next year.
Plus Honda had great safety ratings, reliability, and good gas mileage. It's too bad that Toyota is losing out to their competition, and this article only confirms that Toyota is clinging to technology of yesteryear.
Think of it this way: They lose out to $20,000+ to customers who are moving to other car brands, just because those brands seem to be more forward-thinking with technology.
Bite the bullet and just integrate CarPlay, Toyota. You're only hurting yourself.
I've had two Toyota cars, both which lasted well past 10 years without any major problems. I used to love their cars.
However, a few months ago when I was shopping for a new car, I was disappointed to find that Toyota really hadn't done anything new or innovative since the Prius. Their touch-screen interface seemed lacking and incompatible with the evolving integration between cars and devices.
I jumped ship and bought a Honda instead, which had excellent integration with Apple products and deep integration with Siri. Honda has worked hard to build an interface that works seamlessly with iPhone. I suspect that they will have full CarPlay integration within the next year.
Plus Honda had great safety ratings, reliability, and good gas mileage. It's too bad that Toyota is losing out to their competition, and this article only confirms that Toyota is clinging to technology of yesteryear.
Think of it this way: They lose out to $20,000+ to customers who are moving to other car brands, just because those brands seem to be more forward-thinking with technology.
Bite the bullet and just integrate CarPlay, Toyota. You're only hurting yourself.
I hope you realize CarPlay will be using the exact same touch screens the manufacturers are using now. CarPlay will also be working through QNX as a software overlay. Outside of aftermarket head units, the only hardware involved will be your iPhone. Simplistically put, it's Airplay for the car. There's more to it than that, but at it's most basic, that's what you're getting.
This is my feeling on the subject. I think CarPlay is cool and if the next car I got had it, of coarse I would like it but I'm doing just fine without it right now and for the foreseeable future. I have a ford with my ford touch but I use my iPhone for everything relevant. Navigation? It's hooked into Bluetooth. All I do is press the home button and talk into the car and tell it to take me somewhere. Calls? Well my car has Bluetooth so it already does that. Music? Car does that through Bluetooth. When you've got a good car mount, you really don't need CarPlay.
Sure but they still hold value over many of their competitors and are reliable even at 150,000 miles. The goal for any car owner is to get from point A to B without breaking down. And if you want a exciting car in the first place I'm looking at the body and drive train first; not the infotainment system. Back in the day some of these exotic cars did not even have AC or stereos. Driving was first and foremost.
Boring cars for boring people is definately what Toyota is about. However, there are a lot of boring people our there that slap the car payment right next to the mortgage payment or the rent and pick up a Toyota to take the kids to soccer practice and the long boring office commute.
Honda announced the 2016 Pilots a few weeks ago.
the entertainment system is running Android.
What I meant about support is if there's software issues with iOS or Android. Car dealerships are inevitably going to have to support those things, which will bring a level of annoyance and resource drain.
If you've met humans, a lot of the time you can't just say "hey, that's Apple's problem, or Google's problem, call them". Especially when someone spent $30K+ on a product from you. That could be part of what Toyota wants to avoid.
Toyota's are known to be a "Driving Appliance". I own a Camry, and it is as close to that as you can get.
it's not fancy. it's nothing special. it's nto going to turn heads. It's not going to burn rubber. Toyota doesn't go for "best in ____".
If anything, they are the most "Apple" Like of the car manufacturers. Excellent build quality aimed at mass adoption. And they've nailed it.
Driving my car isn't exhillerating. its exactly as you said. it's a reliable, well built vehicle that gets me from Point A, to Point B safely, Reliably, comfortably, and well enough equipped.
I fully expect this car to last me until my nieces are old enough to drive and I gift it to them.
From my own constant use, I can confidently say the touchscreen UIs for both Toyota and Lexus are terrible.
It's disappointing to see such crap software in two cars I otherwise very much enjoy driving/being in. It's even more disappointing hearing they aren't willing to just swallow their pride and outsource it to Apple or Google.
It's disappointing to see such crap software in two cars I otherwise very much enjoy driving/being in. It's even more disappointing hearing they aren't willing to just swallow their pride and outsource it to Apple or Google.
"We here at Toyota don't currently have any plans to adopt CarPlay or Android Auto in any of our models, but customers can rest assured that we will continue to provide our in-dash digital LCD clock. In the last couple years, we've added amazing new features to our clock such as color and backlighting, and customers can be confident that we will continue to work on and improve our digital LCD clock technology."
No your post is not disturbing because I have a 69 Mustang. I daily drive an A5. My 69 is a resto mod that lacks neither power nor performance. It's an autocross car and weekend driver.
Your post was disturbing because what you wrote was entirely untrue and you failed to address it, but that's your prerogative. Your reply to my post is equally disturbing. You continue to obfuscate with unrelated rationalizations instead of addressing the issue of the accuracy of your original post. Your "history" on the automotive industry contains nothing but spurious comments that don't even come close to factual.
And this: "Just wait til CarPlay comes out and the local sales crew gets their floor instructions. They will not like it at all but the customers will love it."
Why would dealers not like CarPlay? Is it because you think it will be free on every model and customers will no longer have to buy upgraded solutions? You could be right. Sales people will still be paid, and other upgrades will still be offered to raise their commission. CarPlay isn't the only enticement available on a car. You could also be very, very wrong.
Manufacturers could very easily only include the CarPlay option on higher trim levels as a way to entice customers to spend more money for that upgrade. They could also only offer CarPlay when you tick that box for the upgraded audio package on your base model car. If that turns out to be the case, which trim levels do you think they will try to push? The one's with CarPlay. Sales people typically don't hate an additional aid in selling a car. And if this forum is any indication, CarPlay could be just such an aid.
Sorry but this thread reminds me of retina displays.
People who didn't know what "Carplay" was last month cannot live without it this month.
Way to go Apple Marketing Dept, way to go.
People who didn't know what "Carplay" was last month cannot live without it this month.
Way to go Apple Marketing Dept, way to go.
But the big up spike with AT&T started earlier with the merger with Cingular. I think that's when AT&T became the biggest carrier.
I strongly disagree with you. I feel much safer using my touch screen than fiddling around for various knobs. The MyLink in my Chevy is very easy to use and I have it preset with the things I use most on the home screen (I don't leave the home screen while driving, I use the wheel mounted buttons and voice command for anything else I need). When I'm driving, I know exactly where to tap without looking, thanks to muscle memory and peripheral vision.
My husband's car has a screen but it has buttons below it rather than touch capable...it's awful!!!
He has to look to see which button to push, then has to keep glancing over to see if what he wants is highlighted, then select the OK button, then switch to another button, look again to see if the right thing is highlighted, then find OK again. He can't even use it until red lights because it's so complicated and unsafe!Quite sad. My entire family are big fans of Toyota (started with my Prius), but this kind of direction just sounds bizarre.
The Prius came before integration was a big thing, but our 2012 Sienna's bluetooth is crazy annoying (Car must initiate connection, loses connection profile monthly, takes 2-3m to walk through reconnection). My wife still doesn't have both music and phone working through the system.
I will seriously think about *not* buying a Toyota in the future.
The Prius came before integration was a big thing, but our 2012 Sienna's bluetooth is crazy annoying (Car must initiate connection, loses connection profile monthly, takes 2-3m to walk through reconnection). My wife still doesn't have both music and phone working through the system.
I will seriously think about *not* buying a Toyota in the future.
If you think that more than 1% of the car buyers today are going to turn down a brand because of lack of car play. Your nutz. For Most car buyers the entertainment system is a minor concern.
well, there's no commitment by Apple to support carplay in the long run. who knows when Apple will discontinue carplay in favor of their own cars.
Spend even more money, and the electronics get even better! My GS has a 12.3" screen and a mouse with force-feedback. As you drag the cursor over clickable boxes, it "sticks" for a moment.. It's absolutely amazing tech. I can control the entire phone with it -- or, use the voice commands to control it, OR use Siri.
Choices... Who would have thought.
You forgot about Apple Pay and all the people who were only going to eat at McDonads, shop at Whole Foods and buy gum at Walgreens. They won't shop anywhere that doesn't support Apple Pay.
You've made an error in your assumption.
I simply said I wanted Bluetooth connectivity because I like to have my own choice in music - not radio/satellite.
I didn't make any errors. Unless you have a way of telepathically controlling your music on your device while driving, if you use your phone while driving to listen to music you are not completely distraction free.
You could hit play on a playlist before taking the car out of drive. You could have random play selected on your music collection. You could be taking a short trip.
I have a playlist called Driving Music. It has about 250 songs. I just hit random play. Never touch my phone until I get out of the car.
So while it's true the act of listening to music means you're not completely distraction free, in no way does it require you to interact with your device.