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Honestly, I've found their Bluetooth integration to be more than adequate for playing music. As long as I set things up before I start driving, there's no issue of having to fumble with my phone and whatnot. I, personally, care more about safety ratings and reliability, which Toyota has always excelled at. I'll deal with audio via Bluetooth if that's all I get.
 
This reminds me of Verizon not going along with the whole iPhone thing in early 2007 and letting AT&T have that luxury until 2011. Not sure that was the best idea...

It didn't seem to hurt Verizon at all while AT&T had a crippled system that was overtaxed for a few years.

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"we prefer to use our in-house proprietary platforms"

Clearly not thinking about what the consumer wants.


Just like Apple doesn't care what the consumer wants. They offer you what they want, not what you want.
 
And when will everyone else realize touch screens and infotainment screens in general are dangerous in cars.

What ever happened to driving with both hands on steering wheel and looking around your surroundings? How many times do we need to fiddle with infotainment while driving? How lazy can people get?
 
Honestly, I've found their Bluetooth integration to be more than adequate for playing music. As long as I set things up before I start driving, there's no issue of having to fumble with my phone and whatnot. I, personally, care more about safety ratings and reliability, which Toyota has always excelled at. I'll deal with audio via Bluetooth if that's all I get.

Exactly! Bluetooth and a car mount is all I need. Plus I have 4 vehicles.
 
I drive the 2014 Camry. Honestly, their system isn't bad. My iPhone pairs up as soon as I turn on the car and I'm good.
 
The fact is that it doesn't matter how good the propriety Toyota UI is. Even if it was "better" than CarPlay it would still suffer from the insurmountable limitation that it is tied to the car. The brilliance of using your phone is that it is already in sync with you. It has your contacts, music services, emails, texts, apps etc already configured and up to date. Any car UI will be dated in a year and most users won't spend the time to configure all of the services I mentioned above on another system.
Phone integration is a requirement in my next car. I guess this just takes Toyota out as an option this year.
 
The wife just got a Rav 4, and Entune is decent. Beats the crap out of the Sync crap my Explorer came with. Egad.

My Explorer has MyFordTouch and it really isn't that bad. The only issue I ever have with it is sometimes it thinks it needs to reindex all my music and that is a pain. Otherwise the voice commands and navigation all work pretty well.
 
That's ok. I have no plans to buy or lease a Toyota.

So you would rather buy a car based on infotainment? What ever happened to drivability, reliability, safety and value? The goofy stereo and hvac controls are the last thing on my mind. I don't plan on using those features every 5 minutes during my route.
 
Just like Apple doesn't care what the consumer wants. They offer you what they want, not what you want.
Apple is successful precisely because they provide what the majority of user want.

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My Explorer has MyFordTouch and it really isn't that bad. The only issue I ever have with it is sometimes it thinks it needs to reindex all my music and that is a pain. Otherwise the voice commands and navigation all work pretty well.
In my fussion I found MyFordTouch to be astounding bad.
I really love the rest of the car, but despise that system.

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So you would rather buy a car based on infotainment? What ever happened to drivability, reliability, safety and value? The goofy stereo and hvac controls are the last thing on my mind. I don't plan on using those features every 5 minutes during my route.
There are enough quality cars from other brands, that yes, the infotainment is a differentiator. When I an listening to music, making a call, getting directions etc, I want the experience to be a seamless as possible. Cus, you know, safety.
 
"John Hanson, the national manager of Toyota's advanced technology communications, said while the company talked frequently with both Google and Apple, it currently had no plans to adopt Android Auto or CarPlay in the United States.

"We may all eventually wind up there, but right now we prefer to use our in-house proprietary platforms for those kinds of functions," Mr. Hanson said."

Article Link: Toyota Currently Has No Plans to Support CarPlay or Android Auto in U.S.

Likely translation: We're waiting to see how this all shakes out, and/or if any format will become dominant, before committing ourselves.

Unless they've had their heads in the sand lately, the likes of Toyota are obviously aware smartphone integration into car's dashboards is a freight train that cannot be stopped, and perhaps they are not yet ready with tech that supports both Apple and Android. It's a given both formats will be around, and Toyota et al better get-a-move on producing cars that are compatible with both CarPlay and Android Auto, giving consumers their choice of platform.
 
So you would rather buy a car based on infotainment? What ever happened to drivability, reliability, safety and value? The goofy stereo and hvac controls are the last thing on my mind. I don't plan on using those features every 5 minutes during my route.

Indeed. This is why i buy a toyota.... But its silly to think we couldnt easily have both. The GPS is essentially unusable IMO. Just a terrible system all around that makes you either not use it at all or you spend more time using than you have to. Its unfortunate because i will still buy toyota but have to deal with that trash.
 
This thread is sad

I've never seen so many people say they'd make a 5 to 6 figure financial decision based on their cell phone manufacturer. That's some of the strangest crap I've ever heard. One of you who've made that statement, please help me understand your logic. I am genuinely curious how a decision on purchasing a car (the second most expensive purchase most people make) can be influenced to that extent by something as inconsequential as the infotainment module being Apple powered.

I like Apple too, but sweet Jeebus there's no way in hell Apple could influence my decision making to that degree. That type of thinking kinda does qualify for that derogatory term some people use to describe over zealous Apple fans. Rhymes with Bo Peep.
 
what car manufacturer wants to support Apple after all the Apple car rumors now?
Unlikely Apple actually wants to build a car. Most likely it's a research project for car-related electronic systems, not a full-on car. As others have said, autos per se is a low-profit capital intensive business.
 
Big mistake. Consumers just don't care about the mechanical things like top speed and 0-60 anymore. What we all want are the amenities and appliances that make are lives easier when we shift from cars to office and back again everyday.

My last 2 cars were Prius and they are great cars but I will go to another brand of hybrid if I cannot have CarPlay.
 
This reminds me of Verizon not going along with the whole iPhone thing in early 2007 and letting AT&T have that luxury until 2011. Not sure that was the best idea...

Did it really hurt Verizon? Android got it's legs with the Droid OG; the grand daddy of Android. Because I was tied to Verizon that was my only real option thus killing Windows Mobile. Fast forward to today Android has the largest install base and the Verizon iPhone model is better than the AT&T/T-Mobile models because it comes unlocked out the box on all 3.
If Steve Jobs got the iPhone on all carriers from the start Android wouldn't be as strong as it is today. So I doubt Verizon is crying; their still kicking everyone's butt.
 
I've never seen so many people say they'd make a 5 to 6 figure financial decision based on their cell phone manufacturer. That's some of the strangest crap I've ever heard. One of you who've made that statement, please help me understand your logic. I am genuinely curious how a decision on purchasing a car (the second most expensive purchase most people make) can be influenced to that extent by something as inconsequential as the infotainment module being Apple powered.

I like Apple too, but sweet Jeebus there's no way in hell Apple could influence my decision making to that degree. That type of thinking kinda does qualify for that derogatory term some people use to describe over zealous Apple fans. Rhymes with Bo Peep.

Cars are more about the computers and operating systems than the powertrain these days. I like Toyota but their touchscreen and OS leave a lot to be desired. An Apple car is much more interesting to me than any other single carmaker right now. I've spent well over $100k on Apple phones, computers, tablets and services over the past 30 years so a $50k Apple car is no stretch for me.
 
Disappointing...

So disappointing from Toyota, Akio Toyoda really needs to deliver on his promises of making it more innovative and more attractive.

This guy is an idiot who really doesn't understand PR or his customers. The question is, do there customers want to use there proprietary plateform.

A former Toyota lover moved on to a german luxury brand, god is Toyota/Lexus a boring brand. Maybe when I'm 70 i'll buy it again.

The ONLY thing is, did Toyota make this announcement as a shot across the bow to Apple? If you plan to enter our car market, we won't adopt any of your tech.. thoughts?
 
Just watched a demo of the Toyota Entune 2015 system, and it is terrible! Of course the sales guy is clueless because he won't say a bad word about what he's selling.

http://youtu.be/e8Z1zLnyR24

The UI is very responsive, but very poorly designed, and requires too much touch interaction to do things.
 
Not surprised.

I bought a Prius, 'The Most Technically Advanced Vehicle On The Road', according to the salesperson.

Except...

If you bought the one that year that had the Sirius/XM radio, you couldn't connect the iPod to the radio, even though it had the USB connector open for the cable to plug in to!

Yeah...

In order to make the iPod work, I would have to perform surgery on the radio, and remove the satellite radio part, or kill the 6-disc changer somehow.

I even called the Toyota help line, and they just sighed and told me I should have bought the radio with navigation, because that radio does work with the iPod. I found out that I could have also gotten the 'standard' radio, but the radio in my Prius was part of a package.

So, no, I'm not surprised that Toyota is brain dead about their car audio units.

I've lived with it...
 
My last 2 cars were Prius and they are great cars but I will go to another brand of hybrid if I cannot have CarPlay.

Yea, I love Prius, a solid car for sure. Tesla Model 3 will be sweet. I hope that will be my next baby. Too bad they only put there prius tech into fugly cars.... Like who designs them!
 
And people wonder why Apple might be going down the route of making its own car...
 
I've never seen so many people say they'd make a 5 to 6 figure financial decision based on their cell phone manufacturer. That's some of the strangest crap I've ever heard. One of you who've made that statement, please help me understand your logic. I am genuinely curious how a decision on purchasing a car (the second most expensive purchase most people make) can be influenced to that extent by something as inconsequential as the infotainment module being Apple powered.

I like Apple too, but sweet Jeebus there's no way in hell Apple could influence my decision making to that degree. That type of thinking kinda does qualify for that derogatory term some people use to describe over zealous Apple fans. Rhymes with Bo Peep.

Because communication is something you do every day and it needs to work. people spent 2+ hours a day in their car commuting for the next 2-5 years... CarPlay seems to be the best idea anyway to just have the screen in the car be "dumb" and the phone to do all the work. It's not like the screen has anything to do with operating the car.. Automakers put functions like maintenance and troubleshooting far out of reach of drivers.

Car makers realize they can lock YOU into PAYING for their services monthly AFTER dropping $20k on a car... There's zero incentive for them to play along because any hack can wire up a crappy infotainment system and make it "rented" every month you own the car. In 3 years they will be bored and not update it anyway.. That's why a standard for dumb screens is better in something expected to last for 10 years. If automakers were actually CLEVER they could have done this THEMSELVES and charged Apple to use it.. But they can't share with each other is almost as bad as locking out owners.
 
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