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Trading MBP 15 for MBP 13, bad decision?
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OP you cant be serious? You will burn up to 900$ in selling a perfect condition 15" Machine for buying a 13" (even if its a refurb) that is less powerful and smaller so you will be in need to buy a Cinema Display to rise you screen real Estate?
Although the 13 MBP 2.53 is a perfect little Machine (which pleases all my needs in a highly portable MBP) you should either consider to stay with your 15" and to buy a non Apple Display that is much cheaper or to be satisfied with your 15" screen for the time until your MBP earned you enough to invest another sum of $$$
You wont lose that much of processing power. I even wont notice its a less powerful processor. BUT you will realize the lack of a SSD inside.
This post is perfect example for 13 MBP is best buy
They are affordable and have the best portability (would prefer even smaller form factor). And this for only 10% less processing power and furthermore you save 1000 US$
Don't sell your 15" but you better consider your needs before you make a bigger investment next time.
Although the 13 MBP 2.53 is a perfect little Machine (which pleases all my needs in a highly portable MBP) you should either consider to stay with your 15" and to buy a non Apple Display that is much cheaper or to be satisfied with your 15" screen for the time until your MBP earned you enough to invest another sum of $$$
You wont lose that much of processing power. I even wont notice its a less powerful processor. BUT you will realize the lack of a SSD inside.
This post is perfect example for 13 MBP is best buy
They are affordable and have the best portability (would prefer even smaller form factor). And this for only 10% less processing power and furthermore you save 1000 US$ Don't sell your 15" but you better consider your needs before you make a bigger investment next time.
OP you cant be serious? You will burn up to 900$ in selling a perfect condition 15" Machine for buying a 13" (even if its a refurb) that is less powerful and smaller so you will be in need to buy a Cinema Display to rise you screen real Estate?
Although the 13 MBP 2.53 is a perfect little Machine (which pleases all my needs in a highly portable MBP) you should either consider to stay with your 15" and to buy a non Apple Display that is much cheaper or to be satisfied with your 15" screen for the time until your MBP earned you enough to invest another sum of $$$
You wont lose that much of processing power. I even wont notice its a less powerful processor. BUT you will realize the lack of a SSD inside.
This post is perfect example for 13 MBP is best buy
Don't sell your 15" but you better consider your needs before you make a bigger investment next time.
I'm not buying the ACD because of the downgrade, i'm going to buy it anyway, now I have a Dell 2007WFP ISP hooked to the MBP, but I don't like how this monitor looks, the image looks "grainy" compared with the gorgeous 15" MBP screen, I use the Dell for main display and the 15" for keep mail open or some other app that i need to have always open and visible.
Why the ACD, I love how this glossy screens looks, and I have not found another good display as "cheap" as the ACD, with the same specifications.
So if I need a new main screen, why not sell the 15 MBP (that i have allways though was overpowered for me) and get more portability and extra cash for the ACD?
PD: The 13" will have a SSD, I can't live without SSD
ah, when I bough this 15 MBP, there was no other options but the 13 Macbook with no Firewire, because this is a day one 15 MBP and as you all know apple did not introduced the 13 MBP until some months ago.
I had a 15" MBP (first gen Intels) and just recently purchased the 13" Ultra Badboy Pro. I don't do any graphics work, only minimal audio recording via USB interfaces so it's perfect for me. The resolution is lower on the 13" (obviously) but once I got used to it, I don't miss the extra space - I didn't really need it.
I'd say get yourself a 13" Ultra Badboy Pro too, they're great.
I'd say get yourself a 13" Ultra Badboy Pro too, they're great.
i'm going to buy the ACD and wait to see if there is going to be new macbooks on jan/feb and then make the decission.
Thanks everyone!
i'm going to buy the ACD and wait to see if there is going to be new macbooks on jan/feb and then make the decission.
Thanks everyone!
At this that's a great idea. I bought my 13" Ultra Badboy Pro the week they came out (I think that was back June?) and it was a great feeling knowing that it would be several months before any major upgrade. I would wait and see what comes out Q1 (or even into Q2) 2010 and grab that.
Something else to consider, depending on how long you want to wait, there are numerous rumours about Apple adopting that new Lightpeak technology in the summer/fall and it would be great to grab a new laptop with that technology in it.. but again, that might not be until a year from now.
Sadly you've misinterpreted the idea of future proofing as you accidentally downgraded to the 13" Wee Boy.
Sadly you've misinterpreted the idea of future proofing as you accidentally downgraded to the 13" Wee Boy.
I'm going to future proof by waiting for another processor to come along in the notebook series. Buying a notebook now with a core 2 duo processor is not future proofing. I guess your idea of future proofing is buying a 15" screen with a matte display.
NOT REALLY, SORRY TO BREAK IT TO YOU.
No you clearly misunderstand the idea of future proofing when it involves buying now. Anyone can wait till infinity. It's more about MAXIMISING your investment at the here and now.
Thumbs down for you.
Sadly you've misinterpreted the idea of future proofing as you accidentally downgraded to the 13" Wee Boy.
If you could explain how going from a 2.0 Intel Core Duo, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600, 802.11g, LCD and a DVD writer to a 2.53 Intel Core 2 Duo, nVidia GeForce 9400M, 802.11n, LED and a DVD-DL writer is a downgrade for me I would love to hear it.
In the mean time, I'll enjoy my 13" Ultra Badboy Pro.
On a serious note ....
Ive bought both for my company and spent some time with the 13 and 15" MBP. Both machines are top of the line ordered with max specs.
I also have an ACD. I first grabbed the 13" MBP and really liked it, perfect keyboard, great screen, nice size, easy to grab and go, it is a GREAT computer.
What drew me away from the 13" and made me start wanting the 15" was the time I spent not hooked up to the ACD. Say on the couch, kitchen table, hotel, friends etc, I take my notebook everywhere I go. I just like the screen size of the 15" more, to me the two inches does make a difference.
Therefore, if you're going to be using you computer not hooked up to the ACD quite a bit of the time, then get the largest screen size you can manage. If you're a mobile photo guy or even on the couch a 17 or a 15", if you're on a plane every day buy the MacBook Air.
In my experience and I've juggled a LOT of notebooks, always err on the side of the screen being a little large rather than a little on the small side. Then when you want two web pages side by side you can see them, more details in photo and video, it's great!'
Hope that helps.
Ive bought both for my company and spent some time with the 13 and 15" MBP. Both machines are top of the line ordered with max specs.
I also have an ACD. I first grabbed the 13" MBP and really liked it, perfect keyboard, great screen, nice size, easy to grab and go, it is a GREAT computer.
What drew me away from the 13" and made me start wanting the 15" was the time I spent not hooked up to the ACD. Say on the couch, kitchen table, hotel, friends etc, I take my notebook everywhere I go. I just like the screen size of the 15" more, to me the two inches does make a difference.
Therefore, if you're going to be using you computer not hooked up to the ACD quite a bit of the time, then get the largest screen size you can manage. If you're a mobile photo guy or even on the couch a 17 or a 15", if you're on a plane every day buy the MacBook Air.
In my experience and I've juggled a LOT of notebooks, always err on the side of the screen being a little large rather than a little on the small side. Then when you want two web pages side by side you can see them, more details in photo and video, it's great!'
Hope that helps.
I think that does make sense and was definitely a concern when I switched. It definitely is noticeable, in terms of the resolution, when I switched to the 13".
Having said that, I don't mind it though. Have you tried out using the 13" at a store for a while? See for yourself. I think if most of your computer is done with an external monitor than it's makes no difference which you go with (screen size at least).
Smaller screen, lack of DVI port, and a glassy screen, for starters. Also, most people will never notice the difference between 802.11n vs 802.11g, LED vs non-LED, and the like. They will notice the lack of ports and smaller screen size though. Also, the integrated card isn't exactly faster then the x1600.
So the wireless and LED aren't downgrades then if you don't notice the difference, I'm not sure if losing a DVI port is a downgrade (especially if computer still has a way to output the screen - my TV has HDMI and VGA inputs, so either way I'm converting it) nor is the glossy screen.
Of the 6 things you mentioned the only one that has any worth is the difference between the graphics cards - The resolution on the 13" is fine, I actually like the glossy screen better and the DVI exchange for DisplayPort isn't really a downgrade (to me).
My point was that for me the 13" Ultra Badboy Pro is a better computer - any of the negatives you've listed are either irrelevant or debatable - for me. I was told I downgraded and I just wasn't sure how that made any sense when the computer is actually better for me.
Why not just buy a less expensive LCD?
I'm happy someone mentioned this. While ACDs are nice, they are not worth the price they sell for. I got a wonderful Acer 23" H233H LCD that looks as good if not better then the larger ACD people used to order with their Mac Pro at my last internship. In my opinion, unless someone else is buying it for you, ACDs are almost never worth the money.
Another point I'm glad someone made. You are losing a lot more then processing power. Make sure you aren't going to regret it in the future. I never planned on gaming on my MBP when I first got it, but it has grown into my main system and I'm happy I have the extra power for all the stuff I do on it now.
Interesting, actually, I have this Acer right here, it's cheap, it's ok for PS3 gaming, but is so ****_ng bad as a Mac-Desktop screen, the 24" ACD is waaaaaaaaaay far better.
Apple charges a premium, ok, but do you really think that one 200 euro LCD TN screen can be better than one 800 euro LED IPS screen?
You should check your sight
Great point. Value for me does equal value for you, logic for me does not equal logic for you, etc etc.
Off-topic - can we see a pic of those two? haha
Just for me - "future-proofing" a System is nonsense. Its burning money with an excuse. You justify your highly expensive System by saying its more future-proof because it has 10% to 20% more processing power or a larger hdd or even an overpriced ssd and more ports which some of them you do not use anyway? I do not use both of my USB ports at the same time when I am on the go. Actually the days I use both USB port are countable even for a 5 Year old.
The screen Size that is mentioned every time is mostly is dependent on the use of the Macbook. Ever thought of it?. I like the 13" and I also look Videos on it. The closer you get the bigger it appears Try it. The resolution is just right for the specific screen real estate. I don't need more. And I use my MBP nearly everywhere as main System (not at university because some things need much more power to be solved). It all depends on the use. The lack of the DVI is easily solved by using an adapter.
If I don't need a thing, I don't buy the thing. For me the 13" is best because it has everything I need. Thats why I came to Mac. I don't need that much. But don't want your System to be future proof. It never will be future proof because it should not be.
The screen Size that is mentioned every time is mostly is dependent on the use of the Macbook. Ever thought of it?. I like the 13" and I also look Videos on it. The closer you get the bigger it appears
Try it. The resolution is just right for the specific screen real estate. I don't need more. And I use my MBP nearly everywhere as main System (not at university because some things need much more power to be solved). It all depends on the use. The lack of the DVI is easily solved by using an adapter.If I don't need a thing, I don't buy the thing. For me the 13" is best because it has everything I need. Thats why I came to Mac. I don't need that much. But don't want your System to be future proof. It never will be future proof because it should not be.
Sure, here's a pic of the two ACD's and a few more goodies
The notebooks shown are: MBA, 13" MBP, 15" MBP and 17" MBP.
It's like a black and white photo... but not.. but kind of is?
Regardless, that's awesome.
Edit: Nevermind, it is a black and white photo. I think. I'm still pretty confused because your walls might actually be that shade of grey.
Edit 2: And you're in Waterloo? Let's be friends haha