Transferring files from MBA to MAC SE/30

Im Just going to leave this here :) (Tiger server also runs)
No need to do any Hackintosh-style stuff by the way, VMware's native support actually recognises it if you create a VM and say you are running 10.5 32-bit, it will then run 10.4.7+ Server (the Universal version that they released) - if you are using a Sandy Bridge or newer processor, you have to add some lines to the VMX file to pretend you have an older processor or it instantly kernel panics (this is actually running on a Haswell i7 system but it is pretending to be a C2D):

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No need to do any Hackintosh-style stuff by the way, VMware's native support actually recognises it if you create a VM and say you are running 10.5 32-bit, it will then run 10.4.7+ Server (the Universal version that they released) - if you are using a Sandy Bridge or newer processor, you have to add some lines to the VMX file to pretend you have an older processor or it instantly kernel panics (this is actually running on a Haswell i7 system but it is pretending to be a C2D):
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I've tried installation on a MacBook2008alu (C2Duo)/El Capitan the same way you've described above, but Fusion doesn't recognize the installation-CD... :(
Any tricks to solve this?
 
No need to do any Hackintosh-style stuff by the way, VMware's native support actually recognises it if you create a VM and say you are running 10.5 32-bit, it will then run 10.4.7+ Server (the Universal version that they released) - if you are using a Sandy Bridge or newer processor, you have to add some lines to the VMX file to pretend you have an older processor or it instantly kernel panics (this is actually running on a Haswell i7 system but it is pretending to be a C2D):

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I never said I used any hackintosh stuff... my tiger VM is clean in that regard :) Back when I was running it on a Modern Core i7 hackintosh i did have to patch the kernel or tiger would panic at boot (but on my Mac pro that is not needed) but I do wonder what you did the VMX file to fake the CPU type? as i read about this but when i tried it it still Paniced so i went with the patch the kernel at the time
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BTW heres proof its a clean install :)
 
Ah yep the older Xeons in the Pro 1,1 should be fine, but on a Sandy Bridge or newer processor an "untouched" copy of Tiger will only boot with the additional lines in the VMX file. Some people report success with only a few lines, though I used this full set that I found somewhere and this works for me:

Code:
cpuid.inhibitDarwinMasks = "TRUE"
monitor_control.enable_fullcpuid = "TRUE"
cpuid.0.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:1010"
cpuid.0.ebx = "0111:0101:0110:1110:0110:0101:0100:0111"
cpuid.0.ecx = "0110:1100:0110:0101:0111:0100:0110:1110"
cpuid.0.edx = "0100:1001:0110:0101:0110:1110:0110:1001"
cpuid.1.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0110:1111:0110"
cpuid.1.ebx = "0000:0001:0000:0010:0000:1000:0000:0000"
cpuid.1.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:1110:0011:1011:1101"
cpuid.1.edx = "1011:1111:1110:1011:1111:1011:1111:1111"
cpuid.2.eax = "0000:0101:1011:0000:1011:0001:0000:0001"
cpuid.2.ebx = "0000:0000:0101:0110:0101:0111:1111:0000"
cpuid.2.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.2.edx = "0010:1100:1011:0100:0011:0000:0100:1001"
cpuid.3.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.3.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.3.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.3.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.0.eax = "0000:0100:0000:0000:0000:0001:0010:0001"
cpuid.4.0.ebx = "0000:0001:1100:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.0.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.0.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.4.1.eax = "0000:0100:0000:0000:0000:0001:0010:0010"
cpuid.4.1.ebx = "0000:0001:1100:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.1.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.1.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.4.2.eax = "0000:0100:0000:0000:0100:0001:0100:0011"
cpuid.4.2.ebx = "0000:0011:1100:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.2.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:1111:1111:1111"
cpuid.4.2.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.4.3.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.3.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.3.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.3.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.5.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0100:0000"
cpuid.5.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0100:0000"
cpuid.5.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0011"
cpuid.5.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0010:0010:0010:0010:0000"
cpuid.6.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.6.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0010"
cpuid.6.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.6.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0100:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.a.eax = "0000:0111:0010:1000:0000:0010:0000:0010"
cpuid.a.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.a.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.a.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000000.eax = "1000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:1000"
cpuid.80000000.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000000.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000000.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000001.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000001.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000001.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.80000001.edx = "0010:0000:0001:0000:0000:1000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000002.eax = "0110:0101:0111:0100:0110:1110:0100:1001"
cpuid.80000002.ebx = "0010:1001:0101:0010:0010:1000:0110:1100"
cpuid.80000002.ecx = "0111:0010:0110:1111:0100:0011:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000002.edx = "0100:1101:0101:0100:0010:1000:0110:0101"
cpuid.80000003.eax = "0100:0011:0010:0000:0011:0010:0010:1001"
cpuid.80000003.ebx = "0010:0000:0010:0000:0101:0101:0101:0000"
cpuid.80000003.ecx = "0010:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000003.edx = "0101:0100:0010:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000004.eax = "0011:0000:0011:0000:0011:0110:0011:0111"
cpuid.80000004.ebx = "0010:0000:0100:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000004.ecx = "0011:0011:0011:0011:0010:1110:0011:0010"
cpuid.80000004.edx = "0000:0000:0111:1010:0100:1000:0100:0111"
cpuid.80000005.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000005.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000005.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000005.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000006.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000006.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000006.ecx = "0001:0000:0000:0000:1000:0000:0100:0000"
cpuid.80000006.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"

Interestingly 10.4.7 seems to be the oldest version that works, I have the grey discs for a 2006 iMac containing the original 10.4.4 and that version will not work at all - obviously there's no real reason to run 10.4.4 but was just interested to see if the very first released version of Intel OS X could be virtualised.

As for booting the 10.4.7 DVD, I remember getting issues with VMware reading it for some reason - if you attach it to a 10.5 or newer VM, do you see the items on it but it appears they are corrupt ie you can't open any of the files/the icon on the installer application doesn't appear etc? I can't quite remember how I got around this but I think I might have created a new virtual disk and attached it to a 10.5 VM, copied an image of the 10.4.7 DVD into there, run OSinstall.mpkg and pointed it to the new empty virtual disk, and then used that virtual disk to create the Tiger VM.
 
Ah yep the older Xeons in the Pro 1,1 should be fine, but on a Sandy Bridge or newer processor an "untouched" copy of Tiger will only boot with the additional lines in the VMX file. Some people report success with only a few lines, though I used this full set that I found somewhere and this works for me:

Code:
cpuid.inhibitDarwinMasks = "TRUE"
monitor_control.enable_fullcpuid = "TRUE"
cpuid.0.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:1010"
cpuid.0.ebx = "0111:0101:0110:1110:0110:0101:0100:0111"
cpuid.0.ecx = "0110:1100:0110:0101:0111:0100:0110:1110"
cpuid.0.edx = "0100:1001:0110:0101:0110:1110:0110:1001"
cpuid.1.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0110:1111:0110"
cpuid.1.ebx = "0000:0001:0000:0010:0000:1000:0000:0000"
cpuid.1.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:1110:0011:1011:1101"
cpuid.1.edx = "1011:1111:1110:1011:1111:1011:1111:1111"
cpuid.2.eax = "0000:0101:1011:0000:1011:0001:0000:0001"
cpuid.2.ebx = "0000:0000:0101:0110:0101:0111:1111:0000"
cpuid.2.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.2.edx = "0010:1100:1011:0100:0011:0000:0100:1001"
cpuid.3.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.3.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.3.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.3.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.0.eax = "0000:0100:0000:0000:0000:0001:0010:0001"
cpuid.4.0.ebx = "0000:0001:1100:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.0.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.0.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.4.1.eax = "0000:0100:0000:0000:0000:0001:0010:0010"
cpuid.4.1.ebx = "0000:0001:1100:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.1.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.1.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.4.2.eax = "0000:0100:0000:0000:0100:0001:0100:0011"
cpuid.4.2.ebx = "0000:0011:1100:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.2.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:1111:1111:1111"
cpuid.4.2.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.4.3.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.3.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.3.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.3.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.5.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0100:0000"
cpuid.5.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0100:0000"
cpuid.5.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0011"
cpuid.5.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0010:0010:0010:0010:0000"
cpuid.6.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.6.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0010"
cpuid.6.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.6.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0100:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.a.eax = "0000:0111:0010:1000:0000:0010:0000:0010"
cpuid.a.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.a.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.a.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000000.eax = "1000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:1000"
cpuid.80000000.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000000.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000000.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000001.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000001.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000001.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.80000001.edx = "0010:0000:0001:0000:0000:1000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000002.eax = "0110:0101:0111:0100:0110:1110:0100:1001"
cpuid.80000002.ebx = "0010:1001:0101:0010:0010:1000:0110:1100"
cpuid.80000002.ecx = "0111:0010:0110:1111:0100:0011:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000002.edx = "0100:1101:0101:0100:0010:1000:0110:0101"
cpuid.80000003.eax = "0100:0011:0010:0000:0011:0010:0010:1001"
cpuid.80000003.ebx = "0010:0000:0010:0000:0101:0101:0101:0000"
cpuid.80000003.ecx = "0010:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000003.edx = "0101:0100:0010:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000004.eax = "0011:0000:0011:0000:0011:0110:0011:0111"
cpuid.80000004.ebx = "0010:0000:0100:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000004.ecx = "0011:0011:0011:0011:0010:1110:0011:0010"
cpuid.80000004.edx = "0000:0000:0111:1010:0100:1000:0100:0111"
cpuid.80000005.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000005.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000005.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000005.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000006.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000006.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000006.ecx = "0001:0000:0000:0000:1000:0000:0100:0000"
cpuid.80000006.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"

Interestingly 10.4.7 seems to be the oldest version that works, I have the grey discs for a 2006 iMac containing the original 10.4.4 and that version will not work at all - obviously there's no real reason to run 10.4.4 but was just interested to see if the very first released version of Intel OS X could be virtualised.

As for booting the 10.4.7 DVD, I remember getting issues with VMware reading it for some reason - if you attach it to a 10.5 or newer VM, do you see the items on it but it appears they are corrupt ie you can't open any of the files/the icon on the installer application doesn't appear etc? I can't quite remember how I got around this but I think I might have created a new virtual disk and attached it to a 10.5 VM, copied an image of the 10.4.7 DVD into there, run OSinstall.mpkg and pointed it to the new empty virtual disk, and then used that virtual disk to create the Tiger VM.

Huu, this is "alien technology" far beyond my little brain.
Guess I'll stay with 10.5/6 Server for VMware. Tiger would have been nice to have 'cause it would be a slick and fast VM, but I'm not the man who can sort out things lying under the hood.
(Unfortunately running "Classic" via Tiger/Fusion doesn't seem work either, since VM/Tiger is meant to run in Intel-mode?
L'art pour l'art.
 
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I bought a $10 usb floppy and connected it to my friends g3 imac. I formatted a disk as HFS on that imac to see if the se/30 would recognize the disk which it would not.
How about if you format the disk using the SE/30...maybe the G3 iMac will recognize it then?
 
The SE30 floppy may be bad, but to test format a disk on the SE30 and put it in the usb floppy on the imac. if it doesnt read the heads on the SE30 are dirty or misaligned, which can happen pretty easy after this many years.
 
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