Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao Says Trump Administration Will Be 'Catalyst' for Self-Driving Tech

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    In a bid to reassess self-driving car guidances following the Obama administration, the Trump administration's newly appointed Transportation Secretary, Elaine Chao, said this weekend that she is reviewing the guidances while urging companies "to explain the benefits of automated vehicles to a skeptical public." Chao said that there's a lot at stake in improving and regulating the technology, and ensuring that passengers are safe when they use the new self-driving systems (via Reuters).

    The guidances referenced by the Obama administration asked carmakers to voluntarily detail each of their self-driving systems by using a 15-point "safety assessment" precaution. Most regulations were also urged to be looked at by the federal government and taken out of the hands of the states. As a new administration approached last November, automakers concerned about the guidelines -- citing a need to give up "significant data" and likely facing months-long delays in testing -- asked the incoming Trump staff to re-evaluate.

    Google tests out its "Waymo" self-driving technology

    Earlier in February, automakers faced Congress to request a few legislative changes that they hoped would "speed self-driving cars to U.S. roads." According to Chao, the Trump administration will do everything it can to be "a catalyst" for the industry and not become a blockade to progress in self-driving vehicles. Chao's thesis hit on asking Silicon Valley companies to first and foremost figure out a way to "educate a skeptical public" about why self-driving cars would be a good thing in the first place.
    Vehicle automation has become a hot topic over the past few years, and even Apple hasn't escaped the rumors of working on a self-driving vehicle. The hopes for an "Apple Car" have largely been dashed after vans roaming around the country were debunked as data-collecting vehicles for Apple Maps, and any of the company's efforts to build a full Apple Car have since shifted towards focusing on an autonomous driving system. In a letter to federal regulators last year, the company further confirmed its interest in "machine learning and automation" as it relates to motor vehicles, hinting that Apple wouldn't be averse to creating self-driving software that's used in another manufacturer's vehicle.

    The letter was sent to the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, and some of it aligns with other automakers' concerns over the established self-driving guidances. In its letter, Apple referenced an issue with delayed testing for companies entering the automobile industry with automation technology, as well as an agreement that companies should share sufficient data in relation to crashes and near-misses, but it should never come at the expense of breaching privacy.

    Both of these suggestions, and a collection of others, are points that Chao aims to evaluate as the administration updates and amends the guidance for self-driving vehicles, "to ensure that it strikes the right balance." The Transportation Secretary also mentioned a concern over potential employment loss in the context of vehicle automation growing, as well as promising to help the Federal Aviation Administration develop drone regulation standards "to ensure that drones can be safely integrated into our country's airspace."

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    Article Link: Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao Says Trump Administration Will Be 'Catalyst' for Self-Driving Tech
  2. Gorms macrumors 6502


    Aug 30, 2012
    Trump administration? Nope. They'll be too busy working out how big their wall is going to be.

    Elon Musk still having the orange goon's ear? Yep. And Musk (along with Google) has been the catalyst for self driving for a while now.
  3. macduke macrumors G4


    Jun 27, 2007
    Central U.S.
    The Trump Adminstration will be the "catalyst" for something alright—doubt it will be self-driving cars.
  4. 1applerules1 macrumors regular

    Nov 17, 2015
    I love everything trump is doing for this country. Voting for him was the best think I've done in a while!
  5. uknowimright macrumors 6502a


    Dec 30, 2011
  6. vipergts2207 macrumors 68000


    Apr 7, 2009
    Columbus, OH
    You should probably think harder then.
  7. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    Yes - which will take over taxis and other transportation jobs!!! ;)
  8. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    Hey, for once I agree with trump about something. It's a new day in America.
  9. zooby, Feb 27, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2017
  10. amirite macrumors 6502a

    Aug 17, 2009
    Just like Al Gore invented the internet.
  11. Singin Hobo macrumors regular

    Jan 16, 2008
    Ha! The technology is so far along in this process this pronouncement might as well be retroactive.

    Actually, no, if this is how we do things I might as well take credit for it.
    I'm calling it now! I call on car and technology companies to invent self-driving cars! YOU ARE WELCOME WORLD!
  12. newyorksole macrumors 68040

    Apr 2, 2008
    New York.
    You haven't done much things then, clearly...
  13. thisisnotmyname macrumors 68000


    Oct 22, 2014
    known but velocity indeterminate
    Regardless of your political persuasion if voting for a particular candidate (any of them) is the best thing you've done in a while that's a little sad.

    edit: this is likely something that the federal government should be getting involved in given the mish mash of state regulations that are popping up right now. Companies are jumping state to state right now.
  14. now i see it macrumors 68040

    Jan 2, 2002
    I can envision self driving taxis, but it's going to be a weird sell to customers to actually buy a self driving car. What are the selling points? Our car is the safest? Our car has the most comfortable back seat? Best sound system?

    All of a sudden, horsepower and performance and handling and the driving experience which has been the selling point for cars since day one will become irrelevant. It will all be about comfort.
  15. v0lume4 macrumors 68000


    Jul 28, 2012
    Waiting for our PRSI friends to somehow spin this negatively.
  16. 69Mustang macrumors 604


    Jan 7, 2014
    In between a rock and a hard place
    If Chao waters down the 15 point safety assessment that will be an extreme disappointment to me. I'm not sure of the kind of mental calculus one would employ to decide to make it easier for self driving cars to become a reality on our roads. Nothing about this process should be easy. It should be one of the hardest things the automotive industry has ever had to do. At a bare minimum, if an auto maker or software supplier can't hit every point on the safety assessment they should not be allowed to bring a product to market.

    This is BS from Apple and any other company complaining about the hurdles to accomplish self driving for the masses. It should be harder for a company with no automotive experience. This isn't a game with a reset button. There should also be extreme transparency regarding crash data, near misses, and after accident performance.

    Apparently no one at Apple read the 15 point assessment. Privacy is built into the recommendations.
    The Safety Assessment would cover the following areas: • Data Recording and Sharing • Privacy • System Safety • Vehicle Cybersecurity • Human Machine Interface • Crashworthiness • Consumer Education and Training • Registration and Certification • Post-Crash Behavior • Federal, State and Local Laws • Ethical Considerations • Operational Design Domain • Object and Event Detection and Response • Fall Back (Minimal Risk Condition) • Validation Methods
  17. Fancuku macrumors 65816


    Oct 8, 2015
    PA, USA
    Waiting? every post before yours was what we expected. :D
  18. webbuzz macrumors 68000


    Jul 24, 2010
    He also made massage therapists great again.
  19. PracticalMac macrumors 68030


    Jan 22, 2009
    Houston, TX
    The last person/people I want making a Self-Driving car is the Trump/ T Administration.

    But I KNOW Trump will take credit: "I invented the self driving car!"
    Sound familiar?

    (think back 17 years)
  20. gnasher729 macrumors P6


    Nov 25, 2005
    If a self driving car can be built that is safe, reliable, and not extraordinarily expensive, it would have a huge number of advantages compared to an ordinary car.

    There would first be a question how capable a driver must accompany the car. Can I use the car when I'm drunk, asleep, half blind, a fourteen year old, a six year old sent to a destination with mom's or dad's instructions to the car? Can the car park itself? And I mean drop me off where I want to go, and then look for a parking space on its own? Can it take the kids to school and pick them up?

    The worst case would be a car where I have to be at the steering wheel and able to take over control at a moment's notice. Because that's not going to work, unless the car is designed and capable of stopping safely whatever happens, and I can take control from a stopped car.
    --- Post Merged, Feb 27, 2017 ---
    British government suggests a very simple rule: You must find an insurance company that is willing to sell you third party liability insurance that will guarantee that any damage to third parties will be paid. The insurance company will decide what's "safe enough", but they have to put their money where their mouth is.
    --- Post Merged, Feb 27, 2017 ---
    Best joke in a long time. You're genuinely funny :)
  21. jkcerda macrumors 6502a


    Jun 10, 2013
    Criminal Mexi Midget
    too late.
  22. DrewDaHilp1 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 29, 2009
    All Your Memes Are Belong to US
    Didn't have to wait long, it was in the first post.
  23. v0lume4 macrumors 68000


    Jul 28, 2012
    Yeah everyone else has already called me out on it. :D Hahaha
  24. DrewDaHilp1 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 29, 2009
    All Your Memes Are Belong to US
    The beatings will continue until moral improves. On topic, I sort of look forward to self driving cars. Wake up at zero dark thirty pack up my hunting gear, get in car set destination, sleep until I get there.
  25. v0lume4 macrumors 68000


    Jul 28, 2012
    As long as I have the choice. I love driving! And how am I supposed to enjoy my future Mustang GT when it's just driving itself?

    Now for those long, 12-hour interstate hauls that I've done, I give self driving cars an affirmative YES PLEASE. :D

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