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VSMacOne

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Had to share my Apple Watch experience from tonight. Pictures don't really do it justice. If you can, make an appointment and try this thing on. Worth it.

1. Just incredible attention to detail during the appointment in how the watch is presented. Intimate appointment for an intimate device.

2. The difference in weight between Steel and Sport is quite noticeable. The Steel feels more like a watch and Sport more like a fitness tracker.

3. Neither the 38 or 42 are really all that big. I was quite surprised at just how small the 38 felt in hand. The 42 is definitely the one to own, even for most women.

4. Thickness is not really that noticeable when the band is tightened like it's supposed to.

5. Milanese loop has to be tightened all the way but still feels somewhat loose, and looks a bit weird on the arm IMO. I was a big fan but will not be purchasing it.

6. The "rubber" bands are simply incredible. They don't give a flimsy impression at all and feel very nice on your arm.

7. Navigation is not really that difficult to figure out. It's just some new elements that once learned will make for very quick operation of the watch.

8. Absolutely zero lag on the live model that I played with, albeit no 3rd party apps were installed on it. But the UI is surprisingly lively and easy to read.

9. The Space Gray Sport is my favorite due to its looks and weight. For my lifestyle, the Sport should be the more enjoyable model.

10. Interesting fact that I wasn't aware of is that you can use the Watch for Apple Pay (once enabled and cards added) without having your iPhone on you. Also why iPhone 5 users will have access to Apple Pay with the watch.

Lastly, and this cannot be overstated, you definitely need to see it to really get a true appreciation for it. After my appointment, I'm even more excited to get in on the 24th.
 

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Had to share my Apple Watch experience from tonight. Pictures don't really do it justice. If you can, make an appointment and try this thing on. Worth it.


5. Milanese loop has to be tightened all the way but still feels somewhat loose, and looks a bit weird on the arm IMO. I was a big fan but will not be purchasing it.


10. Interesting fact that I wasn't aware of is that you can use the Watch for Apple Pay (once enabled and cards added) without having your iPhone on you. Also why iPhone 5 users will have access to Apple Pay with the watch.

Lastly, and this cannot be overstated, you definitely need to see it to really get a true appreciation for it. After my appointment, I'm even more excited to get in on the 24th.

The Milanese loop has two options for Medium and Large, you probably wore the large one so it folded over a bit too far.

And I'm not sure on the Apple Pay without the phone thing. Does it not need to have an active data connection? The watch relies on the phone for active internet connection.
 

VSMacOne

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The Milanese loop has two options for Medium and Large, you probably wore the large one so it folded over a bit too far.

And I'm not sure on the Apple Pay without the phone thing. Does it not need to have an active data connection? The watch relies on the phone for active internet connection.

I have pretty good sized wrists and there was plenty of room left on the Milanese so that's not it. Just didn't feel quite as good as the rubber band. It is gorgeous and incredibly well built though!

According to the two apple employees I was talking with (it wasn't very crowded on a Sundag night) you can leave you iPhone in the car and just use your watch in the store. Apple Pay doesn't really do anything online at the time of transaction.
 

cmichaelb

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The Milanese loop has two options for Medium and Large, you probably wore the large one so it folded over a bit too far.

And I'm not sure on the Apple Pay without the phone thing. Does it not need to have an active data connection? The watch relies on the phone for active internet connection.

Milanese only comes one size for each model watch, 38mm and 42mm.

Apple Watch Sizing Guide
 

Gooberton

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I have pretty good sized wrists and there was plenty of room left on the Milanese so that's not it. Just didn't feel quite as good as the rubber band. It is gorgeous and incredibly well built though!

According to the two apple employees I was talking with (it wasn't very crowded on a Sundag night) you can leave you iPhone in the car and just use your watch in the store. Apple Pay doesn't really do anything online at the time of transaction.
Nothing online? Haha ok, how about ummmm ... Charge your card. If not you could have a card with no money on it and spend 10,000 dollars by the time it goes " online" it gets rejected . I think you were talking to people who had absolutely no clue
 

swordfish5736

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Nothing online? Haha ok, how about ummmm ... Charge your card. If not you could have a card with no money on it and spend 10,000 dollars by the time it goes " online" it gets rejected . I think you were talking to people who had absolutely no clue

No internet required, the merchants terminal does the checking just like with a card swipe.
 

CalMin

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Nothing online? Haha ok, how about ummmm ... Charge your card. If not you could have a card with no money on it and spend 10,000 dollars by the time it goes " online" it gets rejected . I think you were talking to people who had absolutely no clue

I think the credit card terminal does the online bit. My plastic credit card never had a data connection.
 

VSMacOne

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Nothing online? Haha ok, how about ummmm ... Charge your card. If not you could have a card with no money on it and spend 10,000 dollars by the time it goes " online" it gets rejected . I think you were talking to people who had absolutely no clue

Actually you're wrong. Look here:


No, Apple Pay does not require an internet connection. Apple Pay uses NFC technology; it does not use Wi-Fi or cellular technology. According to CNet, Apple Pay will work even if you put your iPhone 6 into Airplane Mode. Airplane Mode disables both the Wi-Fi and cellular internet.Oct 21, 2014


https://www.google.com/search?q=does+apple+pay+require+internet&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari
 

rick98761

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The Milanese loop has two options for Medium and Large, you probably wore the large one so it folded over a bit too far.



And I'm not sure on the Apple Pay without the phone thing. Does it not need to have an active data connection? The watch relies on the phone for active internet connection.


Apple pay doesn't need an Internet connection. It comes up with a unique token based on some algorithm. As long as you have unlocked your phone while your watch was paired to it, and not taken the watch off, Apple pay will still work. It was documented in one of the reviews to confirm it.
 

VSMacOne

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Did anybody else feel a significant difference in the strength of the haptic feedback from the Steel to the Sport? I don't if it was set up differently, but the feedback from the Sport felt much stronger than the Steel to me.
 

MeFromHere

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Did anybody else feel a significant difference in the strength of the haptic feedback from the Steel to the Sport? I don't if it was set up differently, but the feedback from the Sport felt much stronger than the Steel to me.
They should feel nearly identical.

However, the demo loop on the try-on watches uses a mixture of softer and harder taps. Unless you experienced the whole demo loop and learned the intensity of each tap, you may have just gotten strong taps on one watch and soft taps on another, by chance.

With real watch software, the intensity of the taps can be adjusted.
 

Domino8282

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Nothing online? Haha ok, how about ummmm ... Charge your card. If not you could have a card with no money on it and spend 10,000 dollars by the time it goes " online" it gets rejected . I think you were talking to people who had absolutely no clue

Dude, it's the merchant terminal that "goes online" to do what you're describing, not your phone/watch. You can use Apple Pay in Airplane Mode on your phone.
 

SMIDG3T

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Had to share my Apple Watch experience from tonight. Pictures don't really do it justice. If you can, make an appointment and try this thing on. Worth it.

1. Just incredible attention to detail during the appointment in how the watch is presented. Intimate appointment for an intimate device.

2. The difference in weight between Steel and Sport is quite noticeable. The Steel feels more like a watch and Sport more like a fitness tracker.

3. Neither the 38 or 42 are really all that big. I was quite surprised at just how small the 38 felt in hand. The 42 is definitely the one to own, even for most women.

4. Thickness is not really that noticeable when the band is tightened like it's supposed to.

5. Milanese loop has to be tightened all the way but still feels somewhat loose, and looks a bit weird on the arm IMO. I was a big fan but will not be purchasing it.

6. The "rubber" bands are simply incredible. They don't give a flimsy impression at all and feel very nice on your arm.

7. Navigation is not really that difficult to figure out. It's just some new elements that once learned will make for very quick operation of the watch.

8. Absolutely zero lag on the live model that I played with, albeit no 3rd party apps were installed on it. But the UI is surprisingly lively and easy to read.

9. The Space Gray Sport is my favorite due to its looks and weight. For my lifestyle, the Sport should be the more enjoyable model.

10. Interesting fact that I wasn't aware of is that you can use the Watch for Apple Pay (once enabled and cards added) without having your iPhone on you. Also why iPhone 5 users will have access to Apple Pay with the watch.

Lastly, and this cannot be overstated, you definitely need to see it to really get a true appreciation for it. After my appointment, I'm even more excited to get in on the 24th.

I've been very tempted to book an appointment but I'm sure it'll make me want it ever more!! I have to wait 43 days for mine :(
 

VSMacOne

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I've been very tempted to book an appointment but I'm sure it'll make me want it ever more!! I have to wait 43 days for mine :(

Hey I'm pretty sure you can make more than one appointment :) just camp out there every week!
 

matrix07

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Nothing online? Haha ok, how about ummmm ... Charge your card. If not you could have a card with no money on it and spend 10,000 dollars by the time it goes " online" it gets rejected . I think you were talking to people who had absolutely no clue

The only thing required for Apple Pay on the Watch is NFC which the Watch has. The one that charge your card is the retailer machine, not the Watch.
 

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Hey I'm pretty sure you can make more than one appointment :) just camp out there every week!

"Make more than one appointment?"

What I meant was, if I wore the watch, it'd make me want the watch even more and I have to wait a while until it arrives!!
 

VSMacOne

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"Make more than one appointment?"

What I meant was, if I wore the watch, it'd make me want the watch even more and I have to wait a while until it arrives!!

I realize that. I was saying you can enjoy using it in the store more than once as you wait for the thing to arrive. I for one am glad I went. It really gave me a better idea of what to expect.
 

SMIDG3T

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I realize that. I was saying you can enjoy using it in the store more than once as you wait for the thing to arrive. I for one am glad I went. It really gave me a better idea of what to expect.

Ah. Fair enough. I get it! Yeah, I could. I might book one this weekend.
 
2. The difference in weight between Steel and Sport is quite noticeable. The Steel feels more like a watch and Sport more like a fitness tracker.

I think this is a good description. I also like the space grey sport, but I'm also not a "watch guy". I could understand people that are used to wearing classy stainless steel watches might look down on the aluminum feel, and think of it as a "toy". But I'm wearing a fitbit now, and the apple watch feels like a step up!
 

twisted-pixel

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Dude, it's the merchant terminal that "goes online" to do what you're describing, not your phone/watch. You can use Apple Pay in Airplane Mode on your phone.

an interesting question though. What happens if your watch gets lost or stolen? the only way to disable the apple pay is to cancel your cards.

I was a backer of a number of all-in-one credit cards (coin for example, even though they look like they have gone bust)...and one of the security features was that the card had to connect with your phone each hour or it disabled itself...so even if you lost the card, it would disable itself.

If the watch doesn't need to be connected to the phone after the initial pairing, whats to stop it getting used if stolen?
 
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