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My wife is an RN at a local hospital in the suburbs on a general cardiopulmonary floor. We had to self quarantine Friday for 24 hours when she was informed she had been treating a patient in the same room as a patient from India who was admitted Thursday, took a turn for the worse Friday and was quarantined and tested by the county health department Friday evening. The results took slighlty more than 24 hours to get. Not only was she repeatedly in the same room as the potentially infected patient but she’d helped her coworker taking care of the patient to get the patient in question from a wheelchair into a bed. The results were negative but this is our new normal now.

The doctors and nurses at the hospital are resigned to the fact that they are going to get it, which means I’ll get it. At this point we just want to get on with it, get it, quarantine for two to three weeks and go back to our normal routines knowing we can’t spread it or get it again. Instead we will be dealing with many more precautionary self quarantines as mass hysteria unfolds around this thing in our state until we eventually get positive test result and have to be tested ourselves.

Here’s the bottom line. At worst a majority of the population will get it and patients above 60 with pre-existing cardiopulmonary issues need to be very concerned. If you are younger and have the same preexisting conditions you should be more concerned as well. The rest of us who wind up with it will either experience no symptoms at all or at worst it’ll be the same as having a cold or the flu.

A small percentage of the population will die and that’s unfortunate which is why we’re serious about self quarantining ASAP but the reality of the situation is that if the patient in question had tested positive we both would’ve been walking around infected from some point Thursday until 8 PM Friday. My co-wokers would’ve been exposed Friday as would my wife’s.

That’s the reality for healthcare workers and their families. We’re getting it and we likely will not know we have it for a period of 24 - 48 hours. We’ve already had the talk with our family that we won’t be around for in person events until things shake out and we’re both trying to limit our exposure to and distance from others. We’re using things like Instacart for groceries, having them leave everything outside our door before we bring them in, etc. It’s going to be our new normal for a few months and it is what it is.
You can get reinfected after you’ve had it once. And sometimes it takes a couple of tests before results show up as positive.
 
Awww and I bet you guys STILL want the government to run our healthcare. But I know it’ll be ok cause it’ll be your team running it. Zero scandal healthcare, just like China.
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he said the story that they were doing nothing was a hoax, not that the virus was a hoax. He’s also downplayed the severity of the virus, but that may actually be true. No sneezing, aching, runny head or stuffed head, just a reoccurring 8 hour fever.
Well we see how private healthcare has worked with this crisis. So... may as well try government healthcare so cost isnt a barrier to testing and treatment.
 
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Seems like if I had to protect the nation against a pandemic, tech companies would not be on my short list of companies to call first.
 
So...wait...I thought Trump said it was a Hoax. Now it a serious problem. Odd

You were likely misinformed by CNN or a blue check liberal on Twitter.
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Twitter should deactivate accounts that spread propaganda and disinformation—starting with Trump himself. That would be a great start.

It's likely that nearly every blue check you follow would be deactivated under such a policy.
 
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Yes, we don't want disinformation. Like the fact that it'll go away when it gets warm, or the mortality rate is way under 1%
Yeah, that's getting tiresome.

So...wait...I thought Trump said it was a Hoax. Now it a serious problem. Odd
That's literally not what he said. It was taken out of context. Not that Trump doesn't constantly say incredibly stupid things ... but that was not one of them.
 
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Awww and I bet you guys STILL want the government to run our healthcare. But I know it’ll be ok cause it’ll be your team running it. Zero scandal healthcare, just like China.
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Who else should be running healthcare? Companies that want to maximise profits? you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Meanwhile, your guy fired the pandemic response team in 2018 😂
 
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Twitter should deactivate accounts that spread propaganda and disinformation—starting with Trump himself. That would be a great start.
Censorship is an evil far greater than any virus. One man's disinformation is another man's news and who are you or Twitter to be the arbiter of universal truth? We cannot defeat this disease by becoming the Chinese communists. This attitude has no place in a nation that has championed the free exchange of ideas. Give me liberty or give me Corona virus.
 
Censorship is an evil far greater than any virus. One man's disinformation is another man's news and who are you or Twitter to be the arbiter of universal truth? We cannot defeat this disease by becoming the Chinese communists. This attitude has no place in a nation that has championed the free exchange of ideas. Give me liberty or give me Corona virus.
Preach. This “we need to censor people we disagree with” bs needs to stop. Like ok You don’t like trump. Ok. Get over it. Not everything in your life is related to trump and what he does
 
Preach. This “we need to censor people we disagree with” bs needs to stop. Like ok You don’t like trump. Ok. Get over it. Not everything in your life is related to trump and what he does
I may not agree with what President Trump has to say, but I will fight to the death his right to say it. The US Federal Government does not have the power to take away the universal human right of free speech that all men and women created by God have and is protected by the American Constitution under the First Amendment. If Twitter is going to continue to act as a publisher censoring political ideas that they don't like then we must hold the US Federal Government responsible by taking away the liability protections granted to Twitter by section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.
 
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*Global pandemic starts in China and spreads throughout the entire world*

"oRaNgE mAn BaD!!!!!!!!!"
The Trump administration didn’t start the global pandemic, and I haven’t heard anyone claim otherwise.

But they totally screwed up the response, and lost two months of valuable preparation time that we’ll never get back. If we had instituted surveillance testing back in January we wouldn’t be in the situation we’re in right now: we have no idea how widespread COVID-19 is in the US.

The deliberate misinformation and disinformation that has been disseminated by Trump and other officials in this administration has been—and continues to be—dangerous and quite damaging to public health.
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It's likely that nearly every blue check you follow would be deactivated under such a policy.
I’m not on Twitter. I don’t know what “blue check liberals” are, and certainly don’t follow any—nor any red check cons.

I’m not on Facebook either, though I’m aware it’s a cesspool of misinformation and worse, disinformation. The fact that that scumbag Zuckerberg thinks it’s perfectly ok to accept money for provably false ads by politicians is disgusting and incredibly damaging to our democracy, imo.
 
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The Trump administration didn’t start the global pandemic, and I haven’t heard anyone claim otherwise.

But they totally screwed up the response, and lost two months of valuable preparation time that we’ll never get back. If we had instituted surveillance testing back in January we wouldn’t be in the situation were in right now: we have no idea how widespread COVID-19 is right now in the US.

No administration acts perfectly to all situations but the blame here is on the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Chinese communist government for failing to contain this virus in their research labs, allowing this virus to spread, and covering up the origin of the outbreak by censoring those who try to speak out against them. The Trump Administration has done a fine job of taking necessary cautionary steps to stem the flow of this disease by closing our border to China and Europe, directing the CDC to contain the spread of the virus, and addressing the nation last night to the dangers of this disease urging all Americans to take steps to limit its spread and offering compensation to those workers affected by the virus or who have loved-ones in their care affected by the virus and who cannot afford to miss work.

The deliberate misinformation and disinformation that has been disseminated by Trump and other officials in this administration has been—and continues to be—dangerous and quite damaging to public health.
The danger I see is the continued abuse use of the term disinformation in an attempt to smear an administration that you don't like. You have no authority to dictate what information is disinformation and I condemn your statements and I hope that nobody listens to anything you have to say.
 
Censorship is an evil far greater than any virus. One man's disinformation is another man's news and who are you or Twitter to be the arbiter of universal truth? We cannot defeat this disease by becoming the Chinese communists. This attitude has no place in a nation that has championed the free exchange of ideas. Give me liberty or give me Corona virus.
I’m all for the First Amendment. But that has nothing to do with Twitter, does it? And the brilliant First Amendment to our great Constitution doesn’t mean that every Russian propagandist, including Trump, should be allowed to do their dirty work unfettered. Twitter is free to ban anyone and everyone it wants to.
 
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I’m all for the First Amendment. But that has nothing to do with Twitter, does it? And the brilliant First Amendment to our great Constitution doesn’t mean that every Russian propagandist, including Trump, should be allowed to do their dirty work unfettered. Twitter is free to ban anyone and everyone it wants to.
Twitter is free to ban anyone it wants to yes, but doing so means they are a publisher and not a platform and so they do not qualify for liability protections under the section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. I already explained how this is a violation of our human right to the freedom of speech but you will not listen to my argument because you are blinded by your obvious bigotry and hatred of President Donald Trump.
 
No administration acts perfectly to all situations but the blame here is on the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Chinese communist government for failing to contain this virus in their research labs, allowing this virus to spread, and covering up the origin of the outbreak by censoring those who try to speak out against them. The Trump Administration has done a fine job of taking necessary cautionary steps to stem the flow of this disease by closing our border to China and Europe, directing the CDC to contain the spread of the virus, and addressing the nation last night to the dangers of this disease urging all Americans to take steps to limit its spread and offering compensation to those workers affected by the virus or who have loved-ones in their care affected by the virus and who cannot afford to miss work.

The danger I see is the continued abuse use of the term disinformation in an attempt to smear an administration that you don't like. You have no authority to dictate what information is disinformation and I condemn your statements and I hope that nobody listens to anything you have to say.
The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

Two weeks ago at a news conference Trump said that the number of people infected in the United States is “going very substantially down, not up.” Trump even bragged about the 15 cases at the time on US soil, claiming that “the 15, within a couple of days, is going to be down to close to zero.”

Not one public health official agreed with him, including his own at CDC. It was just happy talk to try to prop up the stock market. Same thing re: Larry Kudlow saying last week that the epidemic was “contained”. Nothing but lies.

PS you have no business calling out disinformation when you’re spreading conspiracy theory lies about the origin of the virus. Disgusting. I condemn your statements and hope nobody listens to anything you have to say.
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Twitter is free to ban anyone it wants to yes, but doing so means they are a publisher and not a platform and so they do not qualify for liability protections under the section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. I already explained how this is a violation of our human right to the freedom of speech but you will not listen to my argument because you are blinded by your obvious bigotry and hatred of President Donald Trump.
Wrong. They ban plenty of people right now, and they’re free to do so. Apparently you are not a lawyer. And no matter how much you love Trump, it can’t change the fact that he’s a pathological liar.
 
The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

Two weeks ago at a news conference Trump said that the number of people infected in the United States is “going very substantially down, not up.” Trump even bragged about the 15 cases at the time on US soil, claiming that “the 15, within a couple of days, is going to be down to close to zero.”

Not one public health official agreed with him, including his own at CDC. It was just happy talk to try to prop up the stock market. Same thing re: Larry Kudlow saying last week that the epidemic was “contained”. Nothing but lies.

PS you have no business calling out disinformation when you’re spreading conspiracy theory lies about the origin of the virus. Disgusting. I condemn your statements and hope nobody listens to anything you have to say.
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Wrong. They ban plenty of people right now, and they’re free to do so. Apparently you are not a lawyer. And no matter how much you love Trump, it can’t change the fact that he’s a pathological liar.
I said that the no Administration is perfect, mistakes were made but not to the level you are implying. It's not disinformation, it's having an opinion. I'm not a journalist reporting the news, I'm allowed to have an opinion even if I can't verify it to be true and that does not make it disinformation. Everything I say is assumed to be my opinion and I shouldn't have to explain that. It's not wrong to assume that it's not a coincidence that a global pandemic started miles away from a one-of-a-kind in China Institute of Virology that has been confirmed to study Corona virus.

Twitter bans people mostly on one side of the political spectrum and not the other, that is political censorship. You don't see the censorship as a violation of universal human rights because it isn't your side being censored and you approve of the censorship. When I say my side I want to be clear that I mean conservatives and not Nazis or white supremacists because I know that that is what you will assume otherwise. I condemn all Nazis and white supremacists just as President Trump did when he addressed the nation following the tragedy at Charlottesville.
 
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The Trump administration didn’t start the global pandemic, and I haven’t heard anyone claim otherwise.

But they totally screwed up the response, and lost two months of valuable preparation time that we’ll never get back. If we had instituted surveillance testing back in January we wouldn’t be in the situation we’re in right now: we have no idea how widespread COVID-19 is in the US.

The deliberate misinformation and disinformation that has been disseminated by Trump and other officials in this administration has been—and continues to be—dangerous and quite damaging to public health.

What situation? The situation you are in right now is quite good relative to other countries. Italy’s health care system is collapsing (Drumpf!!!). Merkel stated that 70% of Germans may be infected (Strumpf!). Many on the left seem to be hoping for the worst, but time will tell. I’m hoping for the best.

And I have to laugh at all this “surveillance testing” stuff coming from the left. The party that views illegal immigration as a human right is going to implement mandatory testing without a border? How is that going to work? The honor system? Not to mention it’s believed those who are asymptomatic can be highly contagious.
 
I bet you guys STILL want the government to run our healthcare.

Well that is obviously based on the premise of a functioning government that actually wants to get **** done.

Republicans have tried to repeal the ACA essentially since it came into being, and that increased under Trump, with "we're gonna replace it with something so much better"... which has never once been described, detailed, summarised or even shown in back-of-an-envelope status. They want to replace <something that exists> with <nothing>.

He’s also downplayed the severity of the virus, but that may actually be true.

This is a good point. I mean shutting down all travel from an entire continent is just an everyday normal thing whenever there's a mild cold going around right?

“We want the government to run all healthcare!”

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“God the government is killing people with their lack of preparedness. So inept”

Both are caused by the same root problem. The republican party has no interest in providing health care to the public.

That lack of interest means they attack any attempts to provide better public health care (i.e. the ACA)

That same lack of interest means downplaying real issues and ignoring the problem hoping it will just blow over, when medical experts are saying otherwise.
 
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I said that the no Administration is perfect, mistakes were made but not to the level you are implying. It's not disinformation, it's having an opinion. I'm not a journalist reporting the news, I'm allowed to have an opinion even if I can't verify it to be true and that does not make it disinformation. Everything I say is assumed to be my opinion and I shouldn't have to explain that It's not wrong to assume that it's nota coincidence that a global pandemic started miles away from a one-of-a-kind in China Institute of Virology that has been confirmed to study Coronas virus.

Twitter bans people mostly on one side of the political spectrum and not the other, that is political censorship. You don't see the censorship as a violation of universal human rights because it isn't your side being censored and you approve of the censorship. When I say my side I want to be clear that I mean conservatives and not Nazis or white supremacists because I know that that is what you will assume otherwise. I condemn all Nazis and white supremacists just as President Trump did when he addressed the nation following the tragedy at Charlottesville.
Twitter has nothing to do with universal human rights. Nobody has a right to tweet. And the First Amendment has nothing to do with Twitter, or Facebook, or any other social media platform.
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What situation? The situation you are in right now is quite good relative to other countries. Italy’s health care system is collapsing (Drumpf!!!). Merkel stated that 70% of Germans may be infected (Strumpf!). Many on the left seem to be hoping for the worst, but time will tell. I’m hoping for the best.

And I have to laugh at all this “surveillance testing” stuff coming from the left. The party that views illegal immigration as a human right is going to implement mandatory testing without a border? How is that going to work? The honor system? Not to mention it’s believed those who are asymptomatic can be highly contagious.
Why do you think surveillance testing is a left/right issue? It has absolutely nothing to do with politics.

It’s a public health issue. It’s how you know where there’s an outbreak that can possibly be contained, and how prevalent the virus is. It has nothing to do with borders or immigration.
 
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Twitter has nothing to do with universal human rights. Nobody has a right to tweet. And the First Amendment has nothing to do with Twitter, or Facebook, or any other social media platform.

Twitter, Facebook, and other social media publishers are the new digital town square which is the place where political discussions happen today. If we don't protect our right to free speech on social media we are going to lose it. Twitter, Facebook, and other social media websites need to quality as platforms to receive liability protection from the federal government. By the federal government granting liability protection to these social media publishers whose terms of service are biased against conservatives they are violating the universal human rights to free speech of all social media users around the world by continuing to grant section 230 of the Communications Decency Act liability protection. This is against the law because the First Amendment guarantees that the federal government does not have the power to sensor political speech, which is what they are doing by granting liability protection to these publishers. Twitter and Facebook bias their content to fit their political agenda by banning contributors that go against their political agenda. The New York Times for example biases its content against conservatives too, but this is not a violation of the First Amendment because they are able to be held liable for any misleading content generated on their publication. Twitter and Facebook must allow conservatives the same opportunity to use their publication or we must force the federal government to comply with the our human right to free speech guaranteed by the First Amendment.
 
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1.3 million people die each year from traffic accidents but we still can't get some people to do basic things like not drive drunk, obey traffic laws and wear seat belts

4000 people die from a new virus and they're out buying toilet paper and hand sanitizer like the world is ending.

It's nothing but the new panic incited by the media for ratings 🤦‍♂️
 
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