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Trump Believes Apple Could Manufacture iPhones in the U.S.
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A company is and should be motivated by profits. If a country or state wants to have them do more locally they need to alter things in such a way that the company will be at least as profitable by keeping things local. A tariff doesn't do that. Tariffs will mean they sell fewer units globally and increase the cost for parts. You need other types of incentives such as tax breaks, discounts for property to build on, providing education to ensure a skilled workforce, etc..
I know what a payment plan is. You’d feel the sting of a $2000 iPhone right away vs an extra $20/month which is why people use payment plans. Not condoning pay, et plans at all by the way.
Please forward the information to Tim Cook, he needs proof that you can make bleeding edge tech in America on minimum wage as well as obtaining all the necessary components to assemble it from American suppliers. If your employer’s can do it, then so can Tim.
Trump also believes that people will work for below minimum wage to assemble iPhones in America.
100% of the people who think negatively of Trump's strategy are thinking "quick fix". It is not a quick fix.
Think. Different.
Back in the mid 1990's when western corporations started moving their manufacturing to China, the infrastructure and expertise in China was not there. It had to be built up.
What Trump is doing is kick-starting the growth of that expertise to be built up in the United States. It might take 10 years.
I'd guess those people who criticize Trump's tactics are (a) not thinking long term and (b) see no problem in the destruction of the U.S.'s manufacturing base sliding into 3rd world poverty. That will be the result in 2 generations if nothing is done to stop the erosion. If nothing is done NOW, then in 2 generations, China will be the new U.S. of the latter 21st Century, and America will go the way of past civilizations now consigned to economic basketcase - e.g. Egyptian empire, Ottoman empire, British empire etc.
The fact is, though, that in society 100% of people talk long term, but act short term. Politicians act short term. People act short term, for example, the way they treat their health.
It's like health food and exercise - everyone knows we should act long term, but most don't.
The funny thing is, China - being a totalitarian regime - does think long term because they are not beholden to shareholder short term profits.
Think. Different.
Back in the mid 1990's when western corporations started moving their manufacturing to China, the infrastructure and expertise in China was not there. It had to be built up.
What Trump is doing is kick-starting the growth of that expertise to be built up in the United States. It might take 10 years.
I'd guess those people who criticize Trump's tactics are (a) not thinking long term and (b) see no problem in the destruction of the U.S.'s manufacturing base sliding into 3rd world poverty. That will be the result in 2 generations if nothing is done to stop the erosion. If nothing is done NOW, then in 2 generations, China will be the new U.S. of the latter 21st Century, and America will go the way of past civilizations now consigned to economic basketcase - e.g. Egyptian empire, Ottoman empire, British empire etc.
The fact is, though, that in society 100% of people talk long term, but act short term. Politicians act short term. People act short term, for example, the way they treat their health.
It's like health food and exercise - everyone knows we should act long term, but most don't.
The funny thing is, China - being a totalitarian regime - does think long term because they are not beholden to shareholder short term profits.
it will be expensive.
developing manufacturing process in US will take years.
are people willing to pay more till manufacturing process is developed in US?
it is basic math.
wages are higher in US compared to China.
even without unions wages are higher in US.
Quite. And although we’re all laser-focused on Apple in here, can you imagine the chaos as pretty-much EVERY US COMPANY jostles to recruit the scant US-based talent having the specialist production skills needed to manufacture at scale? The US turned its back on manufacturing 40 years ago. Those skills died out here.
Even if our universities ramp up their teaching of manufacturing TODAY, it’s going to be years before the first trickle of US graduates enter the workforce.
Trump’s blowin’ smoke. Same old, same old.
China does subsidize manufacturing by a lot.
But the discussion here has been about the total cost to the consumer of an iPhone and other Apple products.
Unfortunately Trump's tariffs won't bring manufacturing back to the US. No company is going to risk the long term investment needed to do so when the tariffs can be removed by whoever takes over in four years.
I think a closer figure might be at least 30 years (though probably longer), if we're talking about parity with China's manufacturing capabilities.
Anyone who thinks Trump is dumb or incompetent is completely delusional and/or brainwashed by the leftist media.
The man has single-handedly remade American politics, global trade, and is on the verge of remaking the world order. He destroyed the Republican Party in his first term and he has all but destroyed the Democratic Party… the party that united with Satan himself (what the Democrats called him just a few years ago) Dick Cheney. He’s draining the swamp and all of its corruption, and the establishment, the global elites, and the media are panicked.
Whether one agrees with his politics or not, by any objective measure, Trump has had very successful first term, and has accomplished more in the first 70 days of his second term than any other president in history, with 70 countries now asking to make deals, and if they’re equitable, that should benefit Americans for decades to come.
The man has single-handedly remade American politics, global trade, and is on the verge of remaking the world order. He destroyed the Republican Party in his first term and he has all but destroyed the Democratic Party… the party that united with Satan himself (what the Democrats called him just a few years ago) Dick Cheney. He’s draining the swamp and all of its corruption, and the establishment, the global elites, and the media are panicked.
Whether one agrees with his politics or not, by any objective measure, Trump has had very successful first term, and has accomplished more in the first 70 days of his second term than any other president in history, with 70 countries now asking to make deals, and if they’re equitable, that should benefit Americans for decades to come.
Agreed. That is the well-documented reality: US companies won’t sacrifice jam today for jam tomorrow. Anything to the contrary is wishful thinking.
I kind-of wish it wasn’t true, but those are the rules of the game we play.
In case no one else answered, that's probably the cost to take the circuit boards that are manufactured using pick n place machines, to be placed into the assembly, the camera and battery modules plugged in, and everything screwed down. Maybe an hours worth of work in total.
The GOP already drafted legislation to kill OSHA.
Oh he’s made a lot of noise and kicked up a stink for sure, but let’s not confuse that with anything useful.
I don’t disagree with many of his broad goals, but the man has neither a clue, nor the patience, nor the work-ethic to achieve anything durable. It’s all just flash and sizzle.
It’s true is the sense that is is possible, but the problem is that it would take at least 5 years to train a workforce and build the manufacturing facilities and likely another 5 before you have meaningful production.
Look at India, it has been years and they are only now BEGINNING to manufacture at scale, but likely still a couple of years away also.
So we are talking a decade before viability, billions invested by companies and a slow ramp up. That just is not worth it. Proof is that Brazil never became the manufacturing hub of the Americas. Great idea in principle to reduce costs, but the infrastructure was not there (along with political instability).
one thing for sure is that Apple is indeed not an American company as well as Nike and a few more … But as it says in the box, design in California manufactured in China … Trump part II has declared war on globalisation and want to put an end to it … Let’s see … I am not totally against it … I know someone that until last week was exporting a full cargo of French mushrooms to San Fran every day! To feed the climate fighters in Birkenstock … Ridiculous …
We can't get enough workers to do restaurant jobs or construction jobs, but Lutnick thinks Americans are clamoring for iPhone assembly jobs? It really tells you what they think of the American worker. Face it, we are all just cogs in their machine.
Trump believes he is a king that can rule America until he dies. He believes lots of hugely things that are totally ludicrous. Dumbo Donny should just stay on the golf course for the next four years.