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He also believed that he could run a casino, and see how that turned out. Just because the Trump believes in something doesn't mean it is true or can happen.

LOL

This is gonna be an insane 2 years till the midterms.
The king might declare a national emergency to cancel midterms. Getting more likely with every passing day. Assuming we even survive for two years.
 
What Trump literally said (taken from the transcript in the Snopes article you linked) is the following:

And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you're going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.

Which he later walked back, and then, a day later he tried to say he was being sarcastic. Seems like a good topic and location for sarcasm 🤔 (or, just a possibility, in the ensuing day he was told how crazy what he said was and resorted to the old "no I was just joking" approach).

So yeah, it's only "easily debunked tripe" if you ignore what he actually said.

Even CNN admits this is a hoax. So at least, it makes it easy for me to fill out my list of ignored accounts on here.
 
Apple could keep the same iPhone price or even lower it if they fully automate the manufacturing process.
Sure, and fully automated factories can get built in a week, and they're free to make! No investment in time or money that the consumer would have to pay for at all! /s

All of these processes have costs. Whether it's labor in the U.S. or overseas, transportation/supply chain of parts & materials and finished products, or building entirely new factories as you suggest. They cost money and time.

All of that is why so much work is done in China now - because the people who know the costs of producing these devices have already determined that the current setup is less expensive than other options.

Are they looking at a future where most labor is AI-powered robots? Sure. Is that future ready now? Nope.
 
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If they could fully automate the process to make it even cheaper to produce, don’t you think they would have already?

It’s very expensive so why would they do it. But if tariffs are quasi-permanent then it’ll be cheaper down the road having robots doing the job.
 
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The article quotes Tim Cook as saying "China stopped being the low labor cost country many years ago. The reason is because of the skill, the quantity of skill in one location, and the type of skill it is."

If that's really the case (which I doubt btw) then all of the arguments against moving manufacturing to the US because prices would go up are moot. All we would need to do is develop the quantity and type of skill here in the US, which there is absolutely no reason why we can't
Sure. Please have it done by Friday.

Alternatively, show me where Trump mentioned that his “day one” plan actually means “in fifteen years”.
 


U.S. President Donald Trump "absolutely" believes that Apple could manufacture its iPhones and other devices in the United States, Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said today during a media briefing.

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Leavitt was asked whether Trump thought that iPhone manufacturing is the kind of technology that could move to the U.S. "Absolutely, he believes we have the labor, we have the workforce, we have the resources to do it," she replied, also referencing the $500 billion investment in the U.S. that Apple announced earlier this year. "And as you know, Apple has invested $500 billion here in the United States, so if Apple didn't think the United States could do it, they probably wouldn't have put up that big chunk of change."

Trump is planning to levy steep tariffs on China, Vietnam, Thailand India, the European Union, and other countries starting on April 9. He has claimed that if companies like Apple do not want to pay the tariffs, they should manufacture their devices in the United States. Despite Trump's suggestion that Apple could shift its incredibly complex supply chain to the U.S., it would be next to impossible. Disregarding the expense of such a maneuver, it's not likely that Apple and its suppliers would be able to find enough people with the necessary skillset in the United States. Cook commented on manufacturing in China in 2017, and said that Apple's iPhones are assembled there because China has expertise in very advanced manufacturing.

U.S. secretary of commerce Howard Lutnick made similar comments about iPhone manufacturing over the weekend, as 404 Media pointed out today in a piece titled "A 'US-Made iPhone' Is Pure Fantasy." Lutnick said that the "army of millions and millions of people screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones, that kind of thing is going to come to America," suggesting that neither he nor Trump understands Apple's operations.

404 Media highlights Apple's 27-page supplier list [PDF], which lists the more than 50 countries where Apple gets components from. That doesn't even count rare earth minerals that are sourced from 79 countries, and that can't be mined in the U.S. Apple could not avoid tariffs by "manufacturing" in the United States because there is no feasible way all of the iPhone's components could be made in one country. Even if we limit "manufacturing" to device assembly, and the U.S. had the skilled employees required (which it does not), cost of living and wages in the U.S. vs. wages in other countries would make the price of a U.S. iPhone astronomically higher.

Apple has not yet commented on the tariffs, but the company has been stockpiling iPhones and is also planning to rely on imports from India, where tariffs are lower, to offset some of costs associated with importing devices from China.

It is true that Apple announced a $500 billion investment in the United States, but Apple will be manufacturing servers for its Private Cloud Compute system, not iPhones. Servers are a low demand product that aren't customer facing.

When Apple manufactured the Mac Pro in Texas during Trump's first term, it was largely a failure. Apple struggled to find local suppliers, importing components to Texas caused delays and unexpected expenses, and Apple had a hard time finding workers with the required skill.

As of yesterday, Trump was planning to levy a 54 percent tariff on China, but today, he increased that by another 50 percent. Starting tomorrow, goods imported from China will be subject to a tariff of 104 percent.

Note: Due to the political or social nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Political News forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Trump Believes Apple Could Manufacture iPhones in the U.S.
Here’s the real problem! You have lost the know how to do stuff, and now only know how to market stuff. All that money that is locked up in the pockets of billionaires is useless if you now need to do stuff. You have been sold down the river by billionaires.
 
Tariffs on Chinese imports has just increased to 104% and Apple’s share price fell another 5% today. Tim Cook is going to have to make some difficult decisions soon.
 
It’s very expensive so why would they do it. But if tariffs are quasi-permanent then it’ll be cheaper down the road having robots doing the job.
China is way ahead of US in automated production. I believe many of the accessories like AirPods are already fully automated. iPhone is a much more complex product, and is not at automation yet. If it was possible, they would have done it already - in China. If you want to do fully automated production in US, I guarantee you that you will have to rely on manufacturing equipment from China to make it happen. If China can’t do it, there’s no way US will.
 
It’s very expensive so why would they do it. But if tariffs are quasi-permanent then it’ll be cheaper down the road having robots doing the job.
But I thought the whole point of the tariffs is to move jobs back to the United States. What’s the point of having robots do it then? The corporations will find some way to not pay taxes anyway.
 
I abhor tariffs. To do tariffs during a long-lasting inflationary cycle is monumentally stupid. To see Republicans (for the most part) embracing this idiotic policy is disheartening. To see Democrats suddenly loving free-market economics is nice though.

Autarky is a recipe for failure and WILL put us into a recession.

Apple could make iPhones here, yes, but nobody wants to pay $2k for a base model phone.
 
Tim Cook is going to have to make some difficult decisions soon.
Maybe Apple should just leave the U.S. and concentrate on selling devices in other markets.

I mean… they can still design iPhones in the U.S.
But the trade balance will improve by importing fewer phones.
 
His ideas are what happens when you let someone who inherited millions run the country. Dude can't even string a sentence together anymore but we're supposed to trust him with the economy? SMH. My 10-year-old nephew has better plans for the country.
Nice try. The last guy literally could not talk and what did come out what half completed mumbling at a whisper tone....and he fell over many times in public. But please.... go on.
 
They're spinning up chip fabs as we speak. The cover glass is already made here and has been since the original iPhone. It's definitely doable.
Corning has factories all over the world. I don’t believe for a second that the iPhone glass is shipped to China from the US, when Corning has factories in Asia.
 
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