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Samsung/Google/LG would have the tariffs if they did not shift to the US. Apple would have to eat at least some of the expense either way. Why are we employing overseas slave labor?

It's hard work but far from slave labour. The Chinese government has spent trillions in expanding the infrastructure. And if that work moves to the US, its it now just domestic slave labour?
 
I would gladly pay $2000 for an iPhone, if it were made in America.

I wouldn't. As I've posted before, a phone isn't worth much more than $1200 to me, regardless of where it's made or what it does.

The iPhone wouldn't magically be worth $800 more simply because Americans screwed it together. I do support local businesses and vendors, that actually are physically local to me and aren't a chain or conglomerate. I don't give a crap when it comes to huge multinational corporations.
 
Not to mention that there is nowhere in the US where the size of workforce is available.
Yeah, China gets a temporary workforce for a few months every year to assemble iPhones from all over the country -- more people than the entire population of Boston. It's such a fantasy it will happen here. In some ways, China has been the secret sauce of iPhone's success.
 
You mean Apple should shift production to somewhere where costs are higher (let's ignore skill and quality for now) and do what? Apple's net profit margins are in the 20-30% range. Apple would have to raise prices by 50% or 100% or 200%. How would Apple compete with other computer, smartphone, and other companies? People are going to buy a $2000 or $3000 iPhone instead of a $1000 iPhone because it's Made in America?

Moving production completely to the United States would require decades of work, hundreds of billions of dollars, and huge price increases.

If this tariff happens, all Apple needs to do is list the product price, slap on a "25% Trump tax" (call it that -- Trump would threaten Apple, but Apple would absolutely win the ensuing court case), and sell at the higher prices. We just need every business to be that clear about the effects of tariffs in their pricing. If Trump wants to enact bold, beautiful tariffs, he should take full responsibility for them and accept them as his tax on importers and consumers. Obama got "Obamacare", Trump can own the "Trump tax" of tariffs.
Let Trump do these tariffs, but companies need to let people know why prices are going up. Then more and more people will turn on Trump and anybody that supports him, and it will show in upcoming election results.
 
on the daily show a guy said Apple spends 50 billion in china every year on their factories... so yea.... maybe some of that should be spent in the US.

I just don't see the labor force, infrastructure or locations to do it.

We should be focusing on more important things. Like our food. In covid 3-4 chicken farms existed. 2 had employees with covid then No food for us. Recently the egg issue. Maybe have more places that make our food and worry less about producing products that could never be produced here.
 


President Donald Trump escalated his trade rhetoric Friday, targeting Apple with a potential 25% tariff unless the company manufactures iPhones domestically rather than anywhere else.

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The warning came via Truth Social after CEO Tim Cook announced earlier this month that Indian facilities would handle the majority of U.S. iPhone sales. Apple's pivot to India was widely seen as a strategy to sidestep Chinese manufacturing amid ongoing trade tensions.
The U.S. president brought up the issue just last week during his Middle East trip. "I had a little problem with Tim Cook yesterday," Trump said during his state visit to Qatar. "He is building all over India."

Apple had reportedly planned to source all 60+ million annual US iPhone sales from India by late 2026. Meanwhile, key supplier Foxconn is investing $1.5 billion to expand Indian production, including a display module facility near Chennai.

The threat sent Apple shares tumbling 3% in pre-market trading Friday.

Trump's demand would force a major shift from Apple's current manufacturing strategy, which relies heavily on Asian suppliers for cost efficiency and established supply chains. Moving iPhone production to the U.S. would likely require massive infrastructure investments and could substantially increase device costs, but there's simply no way Apple could pull off the transition. According to Wedbush, producing iPhones in the U.S. could push prices to ~$3,500 and take 5–10 years to implement, making it unfeasible.

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Article Link: Trump Demands US iPhone Production, Threatens 25% Tariff
$3,000.00 iPhone coming right up.
 
I wouldn't. As I've posted before, a phone isn't worth much more than $1200 to me, regardless of where it's made or what it does.

The iPhone wouldn't magically be worth $800 more simply because Americans screwed it together. I do support local businesses and vendors, that actually are physically local to me and aren't a chain or conglomerate. I don't give a crap when it comes to huge multinational corporations.
I already pay upwards of $2k for my phones, and if they were double the cost (and made in America) I would pay it because it is something I use often. I'd rather support America than a country like China. Slave labor is not something I support. Nor are wages that are slightly above getting paid nothing. But, to each their own.
 
I wonder what’s cheaper… promising to build an assembly plant that takes 4+ years to build wasting $500M? Or passing the increased cost onto consumers and just going about business as usual?
Probably the latter, as other mobile manufacturers will be in the same boat.
 
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