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You literally said it's not a Trump hate fest, and then proceeded to irrationally hate on Trump. You just proved that at least some of these comments are a Trump hate fest.

Trump has done nothing illegal as President. If he had, the Democrats would already have taken him to court over it. (As in used thelegal system, not the parliamentary system which the Democrats did without having any hard evidence). Secondly Trump has done a lot of good for the country. I can't force everyone to accept this fact. But enough people do understand this and that's ok.

Also don't expect Trump to be a single term president. Just like people should not have expected Trump to lose in 2016. No election is unwinable. Also no election is unlosable. Expecting the result to go one way or the other is just arrogance that doesn't help your side's cause.

Trump is not perfect, but he's not terrible like many people here mistakenly believe.
No, you misread - I said it was actually perfectly rational to despise Trump and all his works - because it is.

Funny thing... whenever Trump apologists say he's done a lot of good for the US, they don't actually come up with a concrete example. However, there's plenty of seriously bad things he's done, promises broken, lies told, powers misused. The only reason he wasn't impeached and removed was thanks to a majority of toadying Republican lickspittles... no big surprise there.

As to the election - he will lose the vote, but don't expect him to go quietly. The worst possible outcome would be a narrow Biden win. He'll contest it in every possible way, will invoke some national crisis, grant himself special powers, suspend the election result and grimly cling to power as long as he can. Don't believe it? Just wait and see - he's already putting the groundwork in place for just that. Even now, he's attempting to rig the vote in his favour with his egregious, shameful shutdown of postal voting, resurrecting the baseless Birther nonsense, now directed towards Kamala Harris. She was born in the US. 14th Amendment. US citizen, properly eligible. The end.
Interesting times ahead for the US. Good luck.
 
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That is called a political advertisement and legal on both sides.
Both parties send out sample ballots for their parties. They even hand them out at polling places, but they cannot be used to actually VOTE, the big difference. I know, have working the polls before.
In Maryland once, the Comptroller, former Baltimore mayor, sent out a sample ballot with the Republican Gubernatorial candidate on it and Kathleen Kennedy Townsend cried fowl and election fraud as it was a Democrat ballot with a Republican on it, but it's legal and of course she lost.

I hate to be mean but, the bigger question is did you sign up for the FREE MEDICARE benefits that Joe Namath said you weren't getting too? 😂

It wasn't a sample ballot, it was a official request form for an absentee ballot.
 
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So it’s now possible for one man to circumvent the American constitution, congress and the senate, basically all governing bodies[SNIP]

It's now possible? You haven't been paying attention. The Obama administration paid hundreds of millions annually of "cost sharing reductions" for the PPACA to companies for years. There was just one little problem: that aspect of the program was never ever funded. It's too bad we didn't have a Constitutional lawyer in the WH -- he would have known only Congress (specifically, the House) can create spending programs. ;) This was a cute little fiat: why leave Representatives vulnerable for going on the record funding a program? Why not just take the funds -- with no votes and no legislation to make them legitimate? FAIL.

Most interesting was the fact that the media was wholly silent about these annual Treasury raids for a program that was never ever funded.

The program was finally terminated in 2016 when a federal judge noted the obvious: these programs were never ever legal. Again the media and the administration were apathetic: "We'll just appeal the decision [and fix it after Hillary wins]." That didn't go as planned.

Sadly, it's not nearly as weird as you make it out to be. Both sides do illegal nonsense. And the media is derelict when they fail to point out the "weirdness" happening on BOTH sides of the aisle.
 
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"credible evidence" to suggest that ByteDance "might take action that threatens to impair the national security of the United States."

In other words, it is entirely based on conjecture about possible future actions, not evidence of wrongdoing that has already occurred. In a court of law, that would be a non-starter.
Exactly, like when Trump thought Iran were going to do something, so he launched an attack on them. Just never told the world what that feeling was though.
 
I am in no way Trump supporter, I am not even American, but the Chinese company received symmetrical treatment, as foreign investors in China are forced to give up know how and technology and even half of shares to operate in Chinese market. Chinese merely got a taste of own medicine.
 
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160,000 Americans are dead, but you know, TikTok is the primary threat to the American public.

That’s actually a very low number considering our population and travel hubs. It’s an airborne virus that presents asymptomatically, impossible to ever contain. It’s never going away and isn’t anyone’s fault regardless of how high the number climbs in the future.
 
As to the election - he will lose the vote, but don't expect him to go quietly. The worst possible outcome would be a narrow Biden win. He'll contest it in every possible way, will invoke some national crisis, grant himself special powers, suspend the election result and grimly cling to power as long as he can.

12 noon January 20th 2021; no matter what he thinks if he loses his term ends then, per the 20th amendment.
 
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Tiktok: bad
Trump: *******
No, you misread - I said it was actually perfectly rational to despise Trump and all his works - because it is.

Funny thing... whenever Trump apologists say he's done a lot of good for the US, they don't actually come up with a concrete example. However, there's plenty of seriously bad things he's done, promises broken, lies told, powers misused. The only reason he wasn't impeached and removed was thanks to a majority of toadying Republican lickspittles... no big surprise there.

As to the election - he will lose the vote, but don't expect him to go quietly. The worst possible outcome would be a narrow Biden win. He'll contest it in every possible way, will invoke some national crisis, grant himself special powers, suspend the election result and grimly cling to power as long as he can. Don't believe it? Just wait and see - he's already putting the groundwork in place for just that. Even now, he's attempting to rig the vote in his favour with his egregious, shameful shutdown of postal voting, resurrecting the baseless Birther nonsense, now directed towards Kamala Harris. She was born in the US. 14th Amendment. US citizen, properly eligible. The end.
Interesting times ahead for the US. Good luck.

CONCRETE EXAMPLES:
Trump is the first person to alert us to the China threat long before Tiktok or WeChat, while Biden said that they weren't even economic competitors or a threat while he was eating jello from the nurse in his basement. Trump successes? Greatest job growth among women, Blacks, minorities in history, now all lost due to COVID and said China threat of course, lowest African American unemployment ever recorded in history, same with Latinos. But of course, you'll believe that Trump created the disease himself in a more far fetched conspiracy. If you want to talk about birthers, then I'll give you a new term for 2021, "MAILBOXERS", as in "Trump stole the election because he stole my MAILBOX!" Wait for it, it's already starting in the media, the new hoax for Impeachment #2. I don't cover politics, generally try to stay out of it, but I do watch media and news trends and these topics are trending big right now and growing even without any foundation in truth. In my opinion, national media is a huge dumpster fire of deceit and lies on both sides. That is why I only stick local.

My only other thoughts are to please prepare your therapist, your family, and your work for Novemeber 4. Because you're going to be a piece of work on that day. Start thinking about your reboot mechanisms and failsafes so your system of Woke Reality doesn't crash and burn like a crappy Seagate drive you put in a Mac Pro from an old crappy PC you got rid of. I lost 4 TBs that way and yes, that made me almost do this.

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PS: I don't think Trump will lose as Biden's poll numbers are the exact same or lower than Hillary's in 2016, and all of those polls were wrong then and I've seen them make no adjustments since. Trump will lose every place he lost in 2016 by much higher margins no doubt, but that won't matter as they are states he already lost before and it didn't matter. Biden, like Hillary is not travelling to Wisconsin, for whatever reason, so I see the polling data being a repeat of 2016 entirely. I get my data from RealClear Politics by the way as there is no other way to really get a good idea of whats going on except to average all the polls, which minimizes the outliers. The only poll in 2016 that was correct was the LA Times tracking poll, but they refused to report their own poll saying it was false and they were wrong just like all the other newspapers.
 
The issue surrounds the new Hong Kong security law which now makes it very easy for the CCP to find excuses to arrest people for saying bad things about the CCP. The CCP could say that people in Hong Kong using tik tok have been spreading bad rumours about the CCP which as many people know people in China are not allowed to do. Thus if a Hong Kong tik tok user is arrested, the CCP could demand that tik tok which is based in China, hand over the customer database so they can check for anything that is anti CCP. China does not have the same process of law as democratic countries do, if the CCP want's something, they do not need court orders or warrants, they just go and get it and this in my opinion is what Trump is worried about. The US government have a responsibility to protect the private data and information of it's citizens from falling into the hands of foreign governments.
 
PS: I don't think Trump will lose as Biden's poll numbers are the exact same or lower than Hillary's in 2016, and all of those polls were wrong then and I've seen them make no adjustments since. Trump will lose every place he lost in 2016 by much higher margins no doubt, but that won't matter as they are states he already lost before and it didn't matter. Biden, like Hillary is not travelling to Wisconsin, for whatever reason, so I see the polling data being a repeat of 2016 entirely. I get my data from RealClear Politics by the way as there is no other way to really get a good idea of whats going on except to average all the polls, which minimizes the outliers. The only poll in 2016 that was correct was the LA Times tracking poll, but they refused to report their own poll saying it was false and they were wrong just like all the other newspapers.
Trump certainly can win reelection, but he is facing some serious issues:

1. Biden has actually been polling better than Hillary throughout his campaign (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-bidens-polling-lead-is-different-from-clintons-in-2016/).
2. Hillary was a very polarizing candidate, something Joe biden isn't. With 4 years of Trump he is no longer an unknown that voters were willing to give a chance, they've seen him in action and that has clearly changed sopme opinions. The question how much of a "Anyone but Trump" voters can he get, or at least get those who voted Trump but are not core supporters to sit out this time?
3. Trump won by some narrow margins in some states, and there are indications that voters who may have supported him but are not part of his base are moving away from him.
4. Republicans are already facing tight races in what were nominally reliable red states; if voters split tickets you could see R's when down ballot but lose at the top.
5. Early voting may play a key role, if more people vote early there are a lot fewer undecided voters that could be influenced by a sudden shift in the political landscape.

The key will be the swing voters, given Trump had narrow margins in key states. What will happen? No one knows, and the 3 months until election is an eternity.
 
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It's the President's #1 priority to protect the United States.
Why did the NY governor send Covid infectees to nursing homes, causing undtold numbers of deaths to that state's elderly? That right there is a disaster that nobody mentions.

168,000 have not died DUE to Covid. Fake news. I'm still waiting to hear how many heart disease and cancer deaths were counted as Covid. And how many car accident deaths were counted as Covid.

NY did not send a single covid patient to any nursing home. They sent RECOVERED patients to nursing homes that had rehabs for REHABILITATION. In order to be admitted to a nursing home from a hospital, per NYS DOH regulations, you have to test NEGATIVE. The reason why Cuomo laughs at people that bring this up is because it's so wildly incorrect you can only laugh at the absurdity of the statement. Aids, and to a lesser degree nurses, brought the disease into nursing homes - which is why weekly testing of them became required and guess what happened? Nursing home cases fell off a cliff.

168,000 HAVE died from the virus. Actually, more, because deaths are a lagging indicator, and people going to hospitals aren't necessarily dying; and people dying aren't necessarily going to hospitals. You have hospital numbers. The thing about these other managed diseases is exactly that. They're managed. You're living with them. If a 100 year old person catches pneumonia and dies, pneumonia killed them; not old age. If a cancer patient in treatment has a heart attack, the heart attack killed them; not cancer. And, you guessed it, if a covid patient dies from the effects of that disease, covid killed them... not anything else they've been managing.

What an asinine thing to think. Every locally elected coroner in every county in every state in the country has conspired, together, to make the objectively worst President in American history look bad - like he can't handle that task on his own.
 
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Say theres a world war again, does this mean that some other country will be forcing American companies on their soil to sell themselves to the country they are in? I don't think thats off the table now.
 
Say theres a world war again, does this mean that some other country will be forcing American companies on their soil to sell themselves to the country they are in? I don't think thats off the table now.
Historically that occurs, if not a sale nationalization or breaking of ties, so it would not be anything new. What ids new is the scale of globalization.
 
I am in no way Trump supporter, I am not even American, but the Chinese company received symmetrical treatment, as foreign investors in China are forced to give up know how and technology and even half of shares to operate in Chinese market. Chinese merely got a taste of own medicine.


China is basically doing to the "western" world what it did to them for over century.
 
China is basically doing to the "western" world what it did to them for over century.
And what the US did to England early in its development. Eventually other developing countries and regions will do the same to China.
 
You might want to read this... it's not so clear, and the wheels are already in motion.


The time is inshrined in the Constitution, and so clearly stated I doubt any Supreme Court Justice would overrule it in the resultant lawsuit. Trump's term ends in January, what happens next is open to debate but I doubt he could pull off not leaving.

As to the Newsweek article, the Supremes would have to decide, if a state refused to certify electors, what constitutes "having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed;" they could very well decide, and rightfully so, IMHO, that failure to certify by the deadline results in electors not being appointed; or order them to certify the winning tickets based on the tally at the deadline. I think the former might occur if it results in the same outcome as if the disputed electors were included, latter would be more likely since state laws decide how electors are selected and the governer is the one who, per Federal law, certifies them to Congress, not the legislature. Since Michigan and Wisconsin have Democratic governers, they could decide to certify the results anyway.

The counter argument for Biden is Wisc and Mi Governors take Trump at his word and they refuse to certify the electors; thus depriving him of his electoral votes that puts him over the top, in the hopes SCOTUS decides a majority of certified electors is all that is required.
 
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National security here is a euphemism for "trade war." As it stands, all those things are already banned in China.

I thought China banned them because they want to mind control the Chinese and these companies were not willing to give full unrestricted access for the Chinese Gov. to the user's data. Not because its a trade war.
 
Yes, this is indeed already increasingly being discussed internationally (MS is of course only one of many information providers to NSA, as all services in the world know).

At least the rest of the world would still not endanger the continued existence of the Internet.
45 does not understand the global dimension, of course.

One should not build walls into the Internet. That can't improve anything.
unforttunately, thats where we are heading. The internet will turn into a controlled country-restricted network. We are already seeing bans by countries to different websites and services including ones by "democratic" states. A lot of websites are geo-restricted or geo-targeted.
 
Best interests for the US or not aside, it’s worrying that the President has the power to literally dictate stuff like this - without any consultation with the broader governing system. A very dangerous precedent is being set here!
This is why the president has to win a federal election before they have this power. This is the executive branch. I mean, why is this dangerous? It's the exact same thing as getting something "controversial" through congress. Just because there are a bunch more people voting in congress, doesn't mean that that adds any sort of "security" to the outcome of any prospective decision...

Every president of the US has had this power. It's not a more dangerous concept just because Trump is at the helm instead of your favourite candidate.
 
I thought China banned them because they want to mind control the Chinese and these companies were not willing to give full unrestricted access for the Chinese Gov. to the user's data. Not because its a trade war.
They find one reason or another to ban the competitor. Scarcely any other country requires foreign websites to give the government unrestricted access to user data, including the US. It's one-sided.

Also, why are we doing business with a country that wants to censor so much? How about we let them stew in it.
 
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