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TikTok was screwed from the get go in this one. Diehard Trump supporters will support anything he does so they’re going to support this. People with racist attitudes towards Chinese people will support this. US tech companies will support this because it eliminates the competition. And then of course the few remaining people that have no clue about tech see on the news that bad commie TikToc is getting your information so be scared and of course they will support it.

The reality is this is just a tit for tat on China because Trump isn’t happy with the trade situation. It's funny how he manipulated so many Democrats to support it though.

LOL. That phrase is so wrong on so many levels. Americans and people around the world do not have "racist" tendencies towards Chinese people. We are just opposing the Chinese totalitarian communist regime that is openly oppressing and taking rights away from its own people and other minorities that are residing in Chinese main land. Oh, and the fact that this totalitarian communist regime is plotting with economic and politic tactics to enslave the entire world.
 
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1600s: WEST: We have come to you with Jesus, the savior of the world.
CHINA: Taoyan! Bu yao.
WEST: Well, he is the king of the world, and therefore your king. We will force it upon you!

1800s: WEST: We have come to you with Free trade.
CHINA: Bu yao.
WEST: Well, then we will force it upon you, as we did with the Japs.

1850s: WEST: We have come to you with many goods for trade.
CHINA: Bu yao. We want only silver.
WEST: We don't have any more silver, but perhaps you would like some opium?
CHINA: Bu yao.
WEST: Well, then we will force it upon you, and take some of your territory as compensation for your refusal!

1900s: WEST: We see that your country has fallen apart. We will divide the pieces between us accordingly.
CHINA: Bu yao!
WEST: No need to protest, you need to learn your place!

1950s: WEST: Seems like the Chinese have gotten themselves a People's Republic!
CHINA: Shi!

1970s: WEST: Hey, let's play some ping pong and discuss our common enemey, the Soviets!
CHINA: Xing!
WEST: You could make our toys and shirts.
CHINA: OK.

2000s: WEST: You took all our jobs and factories!
CHINA: Bu dui! You invested here, and money poured down on us.

2020s: TRUMP: China is a totalitarian regime plotting with economic and politic tactics to enslave the entire world. We will ban your dancing girls app!
XI: Daodi you sha wenti ne? Ren you maobing, fengkuang jile!

We are just opposing the Chinese totalitarian communist regime that is openly oppressing and taking rights away from its own people and other minorities that are residing in Chinese main land. Oh, and the fact that this totalitarian communist regime is plotting with economic and politic tactics to enslave the entire world.
 
1600s: WEST: We have come to you with Jesus, the savior of the world.
CHINA: Taoyan! Bu yao.
WEST: Well, he is the king of the world, and therefore your king. We will force it upon you!

1800s: WEST: We have come to you with Free trade.
CHINA: Bu yao.
WEST: Well, then we will force it upon you, as we did with the Japs.

1850s: WEST: We have come to you with many goods for trade.
CHINA: Bu yao. We want only silver.
WEST: We don't have any more silver, but perhaps you would like some opium?
CHINA: Bu yao.
WEST: Well, then we will force it upon you, and take some of your territory as compensation for your refusal!

1900s: WEST: We see that your country has fallen apart. We will divide the pieces between us accordingly.
CHINA: Bu yao!
WEST: No need to protest, you need to learn your place!

1950s: WEST: Seems like the Chinese have gotten themselves a People's Republic!
CHINA: Shi!

1970s: WEST: Hey, let's play some ping pong and discuss our common enemey, the Soviets!
CHINA: Xing!
WEST: You could make our toys and shirts.
CHINA: OK.

2000s: WEST: You took all our jobs and factories!
CHINA: Bu dui! You invested here, and money poured down on us.

2020s: TRUMP: China is a totalitarian regime plotting with economic and politic tactics to enslave the entire world. We will ban your dancing girls app!
XI: Daodi you sha wenti ne? Ren you maobing, fengkuang jile!

Dude, what are you talking about? You oversimplified a complex and long history of the Western world to present white european people as looters and oppressors. What you wrote on your post is not actual history. It is an oversimplified piece of propaganda. Why don't you discuss the present time instead and the vast difference between communist China and the West democracies?
 
I appreciate the time you took to respond to some of the achievements listed there from whitehouse.gov, however from reading your responses all I can deduce is that you think COVID makes a number of these achievements redundant, which is entirely unfair considering this type of pandemic has not happened in modern history. Things such as unemployment are absolutely guaranteed, not just in the US either. So to make snide remarks about an all time low unemployment rate now being reversed due to this pandemic is simply immature and disingenuous. This would have happened regardless of who the president was.

Your comments about coal mining and other "dying industries" are not exactly fair either. Thousands of people depend on these jobs to survive.

Either way, they are only a handful of achievements of Trump and frankly, you hear nothing about any of his achievements on any mainstream media sources, which is sad.
Would you call Fox MSM?
 
Dude, what are you talking about? You oversimplified a complex and long history of the Western world to present white european people as looters and oppressors. What you wrote on your post is not actual history. It is an oversimplified piece of propaganda. Why don't you discuss the present time instead and the vast difference between communist China and the West democracies?
How much of it is wrong? You say oversimplified but you never use the word wrong.
 
Dude, what are you talking about? You oversimplified a complex and long history of the Western world to present white european people as looters and oppressors. What you wrote on your post is not actual history. It is an oversimplified piece of propaganda. Why don't you discuss the present time instead and the vast difference between communist China and the West democracies?

No, "China Virus" is an oversimplified piece of propaganda.
 
I am not sure if Americans took a break and thought about this. Americans were criticising China and calling them dictatorship, tyranny, and abusive for banning Google and Facebook. Now America is banning TikTok, ByteDance, and Tencent. Do you see what is happening here?

"TikTok has come under increasing scrutiny by the U.S. government due to concerns that it can theoretically be compelled by Chinese law to hand over all collected user data"


How is this any different than what is happening in the USA with FB, Google, Microsoft, Apple...etc. In the US not only they share the data with the government but with private corporation like insurance companies,Cambridge Analytica, and data-brokers. Its actually worse in the US. DoubleSpeak and ministry of truth I have to say.
 
Many people don’t know that WeChat messages are unencrypted. They also have a “Real Name Authentication” system for their users where you have to upload your government ID such as Passport so that they can track you. And it censors. There are many things you have to google it to find out.
 
Would you call Fox MSM?
Fox and Fox News are by definition a lonely voice amongst the mainstream media but are never the less MSM. Perhaps I should have added "the majority of mainstream media" so that people like you don't purposefully pick out an exception to the rule.

  • ABC
  • MSNBC
  • CNN
  • CBS
  • The New York Times
  • Los Angeles Times
  • USA Today
  • The Wall Street Journal
  • The Washington Post
  • Los Angeles Daily News
  • VICE
  • Huffington Post
  • Bloomberg
  • The Guardian
and many more...

All of which have never said a good word about the US President since 2016.

Then from the "other" side you have:
  • Fox
  • Breitbart
  • Drudge Report
and not many others.

To say that there isn't an overwhelming liberal bias in mainstream media would simply be dishonest.
 
Ban, ban and ban all of them. Also anything made in China.
are you.... a "bot" sent here to collect info on who dislikes China? (through your likes in your comment??) ... I hope not... (But don't worry, many more people are wary of the CCP's insidious ways... ;) )
 
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@Dwalls90 You disagree that there is a liberal bias in the mainstream media? hahahaha

Just because the media (including Fox) calls Trump out on his BS, doesn't make them "liberal". The Trump cult labels anyone or anything that goes against Trump as "liberal" or "communistic", while most of them don't even realize what those words actually mean. It's not "liberal", it's right for America's future. 2020 has shown us that much of America is tired of the old ways of thinking, which has landed us in the spot where we are now. The media is not inherently against the GOP, nor Trump; they're informing us of all the harm that Trump's administration is doing to this country. If you look back to prior presidents, the media has never been this harsh on a repeated basis against a president before, regardless of party, because those presidents weren't grossly incompetent or corrupt.

America is no longer interested in supporting a party that:
  • Wants the income inequality gap to continue to grow so that the rich get richer while the middle class dies off (massive unemployment while the top 1% continue to become richer even in a pandemic and recession).
  • Bails out large corporations that should have filed for bankruptcy, to protect employees before protecting shareholders, while giving very little to in some cases no support for small businesses.
  • Continues to use political power or tax dollars for self-gain (promoting Goya beans from the oval office).
  • Cuts taxes while our federal deficit spirals out of control (noting it rose under Trump well before COVID, so the tax cuts were a short term sugar high that has further doomed our country's finances).
  • Implements tax policies that benefit the top 1%, but actually increase the effective tax rate for the middle class before mid 2020's.
  • Does not address racial inequality, particularly after having the worst national civil unrest in our nation since the 1950's (no action taken).
  • Does not address police reform or corruption, which in turn continues a culture of police brutality (still no justice for Breonna Taylor).
  • Puts a single religion at the forefront of our country, which should be kept completely out of policy.
  • Does not have a functional solution to healthcare (US is one of the only 1st world countries where a hospital stay can screw up your personal finances for life).
  • Is white male dominated, yet wants to tell a woman what her reproductive and body rights should be.
  • Does not support equal rights for gays, lesbians or transexuals.
  • Thinks army level machine guns are acceptable for an average citizen to own, after hundreds of Americans have been gunned down in mass shootings.
  • Does not think public education is important or worth improving, but is fine funneling taxpayer dollars to private schools.
  • Promotes the use of unsustainable energy sources that do not create sustainable American jobs, but further drive global warming (radical environmental change results in many problems, a major one being infectious disease).
  • Seems to hate being communistic, but seems to have a problem publicly condemning communist "allies" (Russia), which murdered American soldiers for bounty money.
  • Feels it needs to stand up to foreign data collecting companies, such as Tik Tok, but does not have a responsibility to protect Americans from the same domestic threats, which have factually screwed up elections (Facebook).
  • Politicizes the worst international health crisis we've seen in a century, resulting in economic fallout and hundreds of thousands dead.
  • Has deeply divided the country in every way imaginable.
I couldn't help but laugh that you're also posting threads suggesting that COVID cannot spread asymptotically, and that we should not be encouraging people to wear masks. You can continue practicing your freedom of speech, which I see you're so worried about having taken from you, but just realize you'll be on the wrong side of history.
 
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Fox and Fox News are by definition a lonely voice amongst the mainstream media but are never the less MSM. Perhaps I should have added "the majority of mainstream media" so that people like you don't purposefully pick out an exception to the rule.

  • ABC
  • MSNBC
  • CNN
  • CBS
  • The New York Times
  • Los Angeles Times
  • USA Today
  • The Wall Street Journal
  • The Washington Post
  • Los Angeles Daily News
  • VICE
  • Huffington Post
  • Bloomberg
  • The Guardian
and many more...

All of which have never said a good word about the US President since 2016.

Then from the "other" side you have:
  • Fox
  • Breitbart
  • Drudge Report
and not many others.

To say that there isn't an overwhelming liberal bias in mainstream media would simply be dishonest.
That might also tell you something. It may also means that the three you dragged up, (and liar in chief of course), are so far removed from reality that it beggars belief.
Bias is a relative term anyway. To say those orgs you chose are overwhelmingly liberal is codswallop.
lol, “people like you”???
I’m responding to YOUR post. You worded it badly. That’s not my problem.
 
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Just because the media (including Fox) calls Trump out on his BS, doesn't make them "liberal". The Trump cult labels anyone or anything that goes against Trump as "liberal" or "communistic", while most of them don't even realize what those words actually mean. It's not "liberal", it's right for America's future. 2020 has shown us that much of America is tired of the old ways of thinking, which has landed us in the spot where we are now. The media is not inherently against the GOP, nor Trump; they're informing us of all the harm that Trump's administration is doing to this country. If you look back to prior presidents, the media has never been this harsh on a repeated basis against a president before, regardless of party, because those presidents weren't grossly incompetent or corrupt.

Exactly. The media has lost its mind because Trump is not the traditional puppet of the elite. He is an outsider that doesn't follow the political norms to uphold the establishment no matter what like all of his predecessors did. He is the Lincoln of our times.

America is no longer interested in supporting a party that:
  • Continues to use political power or tax dollars for self-gain (promoting Goya beans from the oval office).
What, you're not happy he promotes the products of a hispanic descend american?

  • Does not address racial inequality, particularly after having the worst national civil unrest in our nation since the 1950's (no action taken).
Some great things that President Trumps has done for black Americans in the present.

“COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — When President Donald Trump talks about how his policies are helping African Americans, he almost always mentions a new law that has allowed thousands of non-violent offenders to gain early release from federal prison."

https://apnews.com/b59668424ae246bca00107943361ba79

"More than $25B committed to 'Opportunity Zones"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atpy8A5Y3qo


• The jobless rate for Hispanics hit a record low of 3.9% in September, while African Americans maintained its lowest rate ever, 5.5%.
• The unemployment rate for Asian Americans was 2.5% in September. The jobless rate for adult women came in at 3.1%.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/04/black-and-hispanic-unemployment-is-at-a-record-low.html


  • Puts a single religion at the forefront of our country, which should be kept completely out of policy.
Like it or not, this nation was founded upon Judeo Christian values and it has worked great so far up to the point that the mobs took over and tearing everything down. This nation was NOT founded on atheist or islamic values. Period.
  • Thinks army level machine guns are acceptable for an average citizen to own, after hundreds of Americans have been gunned down in mass shootings.
What, you prefer that the bad guys only have heavy destructive weapons and we shoudn't be able to defend ourselves against those killers with equally destructive weapons? You're saying that hundreds of Americans have been gunned down in mass shootings. You have any idea how many thousands and thousands of Americans have been gunned down in home invasions and gang killings? If you want protection and a chance to live, you won't achieve that by banning guns. You have to arm yourself and stand up to the murderers and robbers.
  • Does not think public education is important or worth improving, but is fine funneling taxpayer dollars to private schools.
The US public education system is one of the worst in the world. Not because it is under funded. But because it is wasting millions and millions of the tax payer dollars to teachers unions and other programs. At this point I trust the privater institutions more than the public ones. And then, there's also the option for home schooling, just like in the good old days.
  • Seems to hate being communistic, but sure has no problem not publicly condemning communist "allies" (Russia), which murdered American soldiers for bounty money.
Russia is not a "communist" country. It is a nationalist state. Putin promotes christian religion and the traditional values of the Russians. He opposes progressivism and liberal values. How did you come up with the idea that it is a "communist" country?
  • Feels it needs to stand up to foreign data collecting companies, such as Tik Tok, but does not have a responsibility to protect Americans from the same domestic threats, which have factually screwed up elections (Facebook).
He did gave the right to the American people to sue the social media giants if they feel that they don't respect their right to free speech.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-preventing-online-censorship/
  • Has deeply divided the country in every way imaginable.
You the Trump haters have divided the country, not Trump and as long as you don't see it you will live in a state of denial.
I couldn't help but laugh that you're also posting threads suggesting that COVID cannot spread asymptotically, and that we should not be encouraging people to wear masks. You can continue practicing your freedom of speech, which I see you're so worried about having taken from you, but just realize you'll be on the wrong side of history.

New CDC and WHO Study Proves "No Evidence" Face Masks Prevent Virus

"FB's so called “fact checkers” have struck again, claiming that my report on the science that proves that wearing facemasks, especially in non-medical settings does almost nothing to prevent the spread of a virus, is false… citing that it was based on old information. Now, I'm reporting on a new study created in conjunction with the World Health Organization and published by the CDC from less than 60 days ago that once again proves that there is no evidence that wearing face masks in public prevents the spread of flu-like viruses. I'm also going to show you why the Facebook fact-checking system cannot be trusted. Link to the CDC published study. This study was conducted in preparation for the development of guidelines by the World Health Organization on the use of nonpharmaceutical interventions for pandemic influenza in nonmedical settings. This study was supported by the World Health Organization. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/..."
 
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Yeah. And when I go to the US, I have to surrender all my passwords to social networks and to all my digital devices, which US agents may copy. The same does not happen in China.

Many people don’t know that WeChat messages are unencrypted. They also have a “Real Name Authentication” system for their users where you have to upload your government ID such as Passport so that they can track you. And it censors. There are many things you have to google it to find out.
 
In the sense that he is leading the people into a new civil war on race and internal differences, absolutely.

In the sense that he is contributing to killing hundreds of thousands of Americans in a mad handling of corona, indeed.

In the sense that he will meet the same fate, I certainly hope so. Before he starts a war with China in the hope of being reelected.

He is the Lincoln of our times.
 
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In the sense that he is leading the people into a new civil war on race and internal differences, absolutely.

In the sense that he is contributing to killing hundreds of thousands of Americans in a mad handling of corona, indeed.

In the sense that he will meet the same fate, I certainly hope so. Before he starts a war with China in the hope of being reelected.

China is the one who has started a war with the rest of the world. It wants to dominate through economic means and espionage to take over control of the world. After infiltrating and taking over the West with production of electronics and other cheap plastic garbage, now they're heading to take over Africa. Sometimes civil war is the last measure of protection before a nation goes down and surrenders its sovereignty. Only history will tell if a new Civil war was justified or not.
 
Lo and behold, a true member of Trump Jugend!

We don't need the clear view of history to see where this is heading, just like we didn't in 1933.

China is the one who has started a war with the rest of the world. It wants to dominate through economic means and espionage to take over control of the world. After infiltrating and taking over the West with production of electronics and other cheap plastic garbage, now they're heading to take over Africa. Sometimes civil war is the last measure of protection before a nation goes down and surrenders its sovereignty. Only history will tell if a new Civil war was justified or not.
 
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China is the one who has started a war with the rest of the world. It wants to dominate through economic means and espionage to take over control of the world. After infiltrating and taking over the West with production of electronics and other cheap plastic garbage, now they're heading to take over Africa. Sometimes civil war is the last measure of protection before a nation goes down and surrenders its sovereignty. Only history will tell if a new Civil war was justified or not.

You seem subscribed to Trump’s distraction tactic that every US problem is China’s fault. If there’s a US civil war, it won’t be China’s fault.
 
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Excellent, hopefully the ban will inspire other countries and areas to consider similar action. It's time that China is reminded that they can't trample the rest of the world without penalty.

Guess both nations involved need to learn that lesson still.
 
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