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Perhaps it was how Obama didn't act and speak on TV which people respected. As for being mentally unfit:

Already watched it, wasn't Trump's best performance hahaha. Either way, I prefer to look at what he has achieved and what he has done catastrophically wrong as opposed to what he says in an interview on TV.
 
Already watched it, wasn't Trump's best performance hahaha. Either way, I prefer to look at what he has achieved and what he has done catastrophically wrong as opposed to what he says in an interview on TV.

That's because he was dumb enough to be interviewed by a real journalist instead of his usual Fox sycophants. Interesting use of the word catastrophic - that about sums up 2020. See you in November.
 
Even so, Trump is already trailing Biden by a big margin, thanks to his corona disaster. Alienating 20 million Tiktok users eligible for voting isn't gonna help his cause, and neither is pissing off four million Chinese-Americans who exclusively use Wechat to communicate in the global Chinese community.

He is the dumbest m-f who ever sat foot in the white house, and he stands no chance of being re-elected.

Biden winning the upcoming election would be a bigger shock than it was when Trump won in 2016. He is simply medically unfit to be a president. Either way, we will see. I'm betting on Trump winning again. This time with a popular vote as well, which I am sure you'll appreciate.
 
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I couldn't even get through a portion of this without laughing, noting it's obviously not your list but probably from Trump's website. Not to mention, most of these are not objective improvements, or have no sources cited. That said, as Trump supporters can find policies or actions from prior presidents that they agree with or have benefited from, I can say the same about Trump.

  • Almost 4 million jobs created since election. 11.6 million jobs were created while Obama was in office.
  • More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history. There is no factual figure here. If we are talking raw numbers, I would expect Trump to have more Americans employed, as population grows year over year. Would be more curious to see a percentage change, since that would allow for a relative comparison.
  • We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election. Manufacturing is a dying industry in the US. Seeing as job creation was less under Trump than Obama, not sure why we care if they were manufacturing or another profession. Manufacturing will soon be entirely automated, and preventing that in the long-term is not realistic.
  • Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES. See above.
  • Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent. Why are we comparing one quarterly statistic from 2018? If we're doing that, Obama had two quarters during presidency where economic growth was over 5%
  • New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low. How are those doing now?
  • Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded. Median household income fell after 2008 recession but rose afterwards. We can guarantee median household income will crash further in 2020 than it did after the 2008 recession. Not sure that this is an indicator of presidential performance, but if you want to make it one, Trump loses big time.
  • African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded. If unemployment decreases generally as a statistic, one would expect it to fall for a group within that larger statistic.
  • Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded. If unemployment decreases generally as a statistic, one would expect it to fall for a group within that larger statistic.
  • Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded. If unemployment decreases generally as a statistic, one would expect it to fall for a group within that larger statistic.
  • Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years. If unemployment decreases generally as a statistic, one would expect it to fall for a group within that larger statistic.
  • Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century. If unemployment decreases generally as a statistic, one would expect it to fall for a group within that larger statistic.
  • Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma. If unemployment decreases generally as a statistic, one would expect it to fall for a group within that larger statistic.
  • Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years. If unemployment decreases generally as a statistic, one would expect it to fall for a group within that larger statistic.
  • Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
  • The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
  • 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever. Are we sure that's still accurate?
  • Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year. Are we sure that's still accurate?
  • Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone. The majority of the middle class actually did not have a materially reduced tax liability. Additionally, tax liabilities for the middle class increase starting in 2025 from where they were prior to tax reform, whereas the top .1% have permanent tax cuts that significantly reduce their liabilities indefinitely. It was a smoke and mirrors exercise to confused the middle class into being further screwed, while the rich get richer.
  • As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years. Small businesses were screwed under the CARES and PPP acts, whereas large corporations, many with private interests tied to GOP or Trump, were given preferential treatment. Let's stop pretending Trump cares about small businesses.
  • Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles. Are you implying no previous president has achieved the US holding the olympics before?
  • Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
  • Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines. Actually a court decision has reversed this and this project is indefinitely on hold until further notice.
  • Record number of regulations eliminated.
  • Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
  • Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
  • My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans. All of the COVID victims that will never be able to fully repay their hospital bills would like to have a word with you.
  • Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
  • We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
  • Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
  • Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
  • We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
  • Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care. Trump burned many bridges with the VA during COVID.
  • Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high. Coal mining is bad for the environment, and incredibly unsafe for Americans to work in. There is a reason the other first world superpowers are turning to green energy.
  • United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957. See above.
  • Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord. See above.
  • Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan. See above.
  • Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year. At least we know where all of the COVID relief money that should be going to unemployed and sick Americans is going. To line the pockets of private military companies that are in bed with politicians.
  • NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
  • Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces. Yes, because what we need in a country with recession, pandemic and civil unrest, is another branch of the military to protect us from a nonexistent threat.
  • Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
  • Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh. Who, thankfully, have ruled not biasedly in-line with Trump and Pence's overly conservative views. Celebrating Supreme Court Justices is not an objective accomplishment, but subjective opinion.
  • Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
  • Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
  • Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
  • Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
  • Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
  • Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
  • Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
  • Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
  • Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
  • Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement. MASSIVE
  • We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME. Trump's project to build the wall was actually just repairing wall that existed under Obama and previous presidencies, and adding an additional 16 miles out of almost 200 miles that already existed. We're still waiting for Mexico to pay for it.
 
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Naw. If Obama signed the order Trumpies would call for his impeachment and execution. Be honest about it. Hahaha

True that. President Obama would never have considered this... because the only reason Orange Julius did this is because he's so thin skinned. TikTok users were raking him over the coals. Period.
 
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Insufficient testing? The US has done some of the most rigorous testing out of all countries world wide. The US has even gone above and beyond to test people who have no actually shown any symptoms, something that not a lot of other countries have done. This is also why the cases went up while deaths went down, i.e more tests on non symptomatic people = more confirmed cases. I think you will be very pleasantly surprised when you find out that the total death toll turns out to be over reported by somewhere in the ~30% region once the excess death data is compared (side note, where can I actually see current excess death figures, I've searched quite a bit but only found oddly formatted data which isn't very useful when comparing to current COVID figures, if you know of a source I appreciate it.). In the Republic of Ireland in Europe for example, it has already been calculated that their COVID death toll has been over reported by ~30%+ and cited was the reason I mentioned prior about deaths with COVID rather than from COVID. This report was carried out by HIQA a government authority of the country. https://www.hiqa.ie/sites/default/f...y-in-Ireland-during-the-COVID-19-epidemic.pdf

Yes, insufficient testing. We have certainly not gone above and beyond countries like New Zealand or South Korea. Many countries are testing everyone, and not just folks with symptoms. Sufficient testing is suggested to mean that your positivity test rate is below 5%. Please see here that many states are well into the teens.

I'll wait to be pleasantly surprised until I have facts and data vs. your assumptions that the overall final death count will be 30% lower than what our current data shows us.

He also hasn't tackled government spying on its citizens by the NSA. I'm not sure if there is actually much he can do about things as big as those to be honest.

So he can easily tackle a foreign country from spying on our citizens, but unable to do something about it when the call is coming from inside the house? Got it.
 
Yes, insufficient testing. We have certainly not gone above and beyond countries like New Zealand or South Korea. Many countries are testing everyone, and not just folks with symptoms. Sufficient testing is suggested to mean that your positivity test rate is below 5%. Please see here that many states are well into the teens.

It's also helpful if you can get your test results while they're still relevant...
 
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Did you hear that Trumps library just burnt down?

Tragically, it destroyed both of his books.

And he hadn't even finished colouring one in.
There must be three.
He loves the bible and the art of the deal. Title number three must be the US constitution.
Wonder which one he'd been colouring in.
 
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So he can easily tackle a foreign country from spying on our citizens, but unable to do something about it when the call is coming from inside the house? Got it.
Well he isn't preventing other countries from spying. He is preventing one popular mobile app used to "spy" from being used in the US. He is not actively preventing their government from doing actual spying.

The NSA has been notorious for being granted an extraordinary amount of power. The abilities of the NSA coupled with the US black budget essentially equates to unfathomable possibilities. The possibilities of which congress or the president would ever even be able to comprehend, making it hard for anyone to even question their antics. Thankfully Snowden released a lot of information that showed what was happening. I genuinely hope something will be done about it, but I just see the NSA as being too "untouchable".
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Naw. If Obama signed the order Trumpies would call for his impeachment and execution. Be honest about it. Hahaha
I'm all for a counterargument to be made, but at least make it reasonable and perhaps a little witty.
 
I couldn't even get through a portion of this without laughing, noting it's obviously not your list but probably from Trump's website. Not to mention, most of these are not objective improvements, or have no sources cited. That said, as Trump supporters can find policies or actions from prior presidents that they agree with or have benefited from, I can say the same about Trump.
I appreciate the time you took to respond to some of the achievements listed there from whitehouse.gov, however from reading your responses all I can deduce is that you think COVID makes a number of these achievements redundant, which is entirely unfair considering this type of pandemic has not happened in modern history. Things such as unemployment are absolutely guaranteed, not just in the US either. So to make snide remarks about an all time low unemployment rate now being reversed due to this pandemic is simply immature and disingenuous. This would have happened regardless of who the president was.

Your comments about coal mining and other "dying industries" are not exactly fair either. Thousands of people depend on these jobs to survive.

Either way, they are only a handful of achievements of Trump and frankly, you hear nothing about any of his achievements on any mainstream media sources, which is sad.
 
Even so, Trump is already trailing Biden by a big margin, thanks to his corona disaster. Alienating 20 million Tiktok users eligible for voting isn't gonna help his cause, and neither is pissing off four million Chinese-Americans who exclusively use Wechat to communicate in the global Chinese community.

He is the dumbest m-f who ever sat foot in the white house, and he stands no chance of being re-elected.
That is exactly what they all said in 2016. "Hillary has a 98% of winning the election..." hahaha. I will never trust American polling on presidential candidates before an election.
 
I appreciate the time you took to respond to some of the achievements listed there from whitehouse.gov, however from reading your responses all I can deduce is that you think COVID makes a number of these achievements redundant, which is entirely unfair considering this type of pandemic has not happened in modern history. Things such as unemployment are absolutely guaranteed, not just in the US either. So to make snide remarks about an all time low unemployment rate now being reversed due to this pandemic is simply immature and disingenuous. This would have happened regardless of who the president was.

Your comments about coal mining and other "dying industries" are not exactly fair either. Thousands of people depend on these jobs to survive.

Either way, they are only a handful of achievements of Trump and frankly, you hear nothing about any of his achievements on any mainstream media sources, which is sad.

Most of his "achievements" were nothing different and often no better than what Obama or previous presidents did. Trump's "achievements" list seem to be very similar to what happens to the losing team at a child's soccer match; everyone gets a participation ribbon and calls it an achievement. You don't get an "achievement" for lowering unemployment or increasing GDP. That's your job as president, and the data shows us that many presidents have historically done the same thing (without obnoxiously bragging about it), often to a much better extent. Furthermore, many of those accomplishments you listed (non-clean energy initiatives, conservative appointed judges, the wall, creating unsustainable jobs that will be gone in a decade), I consider detrimental, not achievements. I'd think achievements would reflect objective improvements that improve life for all Americans and our future.

Similar to the 2008 recession that Obama had to endure and bring the country out of, no one is saying a different president could have fully prevented COVID. But a more competent leader that had intelligence from late 2019 confirming the virus existed, certainly could have acknowledged it and better prepared the country. In turn, many lives would have been saved, because we could have prepared better and changed to live the way we are living now back in February vs. June (some states still aren't). This would have meant the economic impact would have been less extreme, since full stop shutdowns could have been avoided. So while Trump didn't cause Covid, he's at least 90% responsible. There are many countries that have been able to resume a life that looks a lot more like pre-COVID life, than what we're facing, because they took aggressive, unified and early action. That's not the US.

I should have stopped debating you when you mentioned the flu and COVID in the same post. I now plan to stop replying to you because you've gone on to say that the mainstream media is all against Trump and his "achievements", and that goes to show we are living in very different Americas.
 
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First Hawaii because allegedly they were stealing US tech. But who cares for “allegedly” now we just take it. WHO is evil as it’s betrayed Americans... TikTok is bad for American kids ... but not FB, SnapChat Or McDonalds ... I’ve heard in another place that because EU is applying their laws to American companies some American circles consider this actions as Anti American ... The Wall again ... What’s next, leaving the UN? I sure hope not for the sake of all of us. It’s seams that things are escalating ...

Again this is becoming weird. Very, weird.
 
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Trump wouldn’t take action against a platform that provides political or self gain.

Actually, FB doesn’t sell data to the Chinese government so they can make fake IDs to ship to the US. Google which company exports the most fake IDs that enter the US. And these aren’t so teenagers can buy beer. They are to steal identities. I have been a victim myself and the cops sent me a photo of the fake ID (after the dude successfully completely a SIM swap and opened a Nordstrom’s card). It looked legit, except for the drivers license number.

For people who think this is about Trump silencing his critics, Chuck Schumer is on record for supporting this ban. Does anyone think Schumer is in it to help Trump silence the “media” (which isn’t really media, just a bunch of kids doing dumb things)?
 
TikTok was screwed from the get go in this one. Diehard Trump supporters will support anything he does so they’re going to support this. People with racist attitudes towards Chinese people will support this. US tech companies will support this because it eliminates the competition. And then of course the few remaining people that have no clue about tech see on the news that bad commie TikToc is getting your information so be scared and of course they will support it.

The reality is this is just a tit for tat on China because Trump isn’t happy with the trade situation. It's funny how he manipulated so many Democrats to support it though.
 
I really don't wanna loose my game.

I play clash of clans which is created by supercell from Finland and Tencent owns most of this company (I believe beyond 80%).

I have a gold pass purchase in this game, $5 each month for various perks while playing game. It's not much... but if we're prohibited from making transactions with Tencent ... how would the game work?
 
TikTok was screwed from the get go in this one. Diehard Trump supporters will support anything he does so they’re going to support this. People with racist attitudes towards Chinese people will support this. US tech companies will support this because it eliminates the competition. And then of course the few remaining people that have no clue about tech see on the news that bad commie TikToc is getting your information so be scared and of course they will support it.

The reality is this is just a tit for tat on China because Trump isn’t happy with the trade situation. It's funny how he manipulated so many Democrats to support it though.

insufferable. Anyone who has a different opinion is racist now.
 
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