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Try on impressions from a naysayer

KenAFSPC said:
The Apple Watch is only 10.5mm thick EXCLUDING the heart rate sensor. The full width of the Apple Watch, including the sensor, is about 12.5mm.
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Can you post a link for that info because Apple seem to be specifically claiming the full depth as 10.5mm on their website. No mention of the measurement excluding the heart rate sensor.
http://www.apple.com/au/watch/apple-watch/stainless-steel-case-black-sport-band/
They cant just pick and choose certain parts to exclude from a measurement.
 
Always good to share your feelings. The watch is definitely more personal then an iPhone. lets be honest, a smartphone in many aspects looks uniform with its other counterparts, aside from size. Look at the variety of shapes and sizes of smart-watches thus far.

It is to no surprise that not everyone likes the watch.

I love the traditional round analog watch, it is a beautiful piece of engineering. However, I understand why apple went with a rectangular/square design....the Apple Watch isn't just a watch, other applications benefit from having a rectangular display.

My impression was:

The display is beautiful, it blended into the watch so well. The stainless steel looks completely different in person, in a very good way. It truly feels like jewelry.More warm and inviting, less like a stainless steel surgical tool. I was very impressed and happy about it! The sport was nice, but didn't really feel like jewelry, more like a smart-watch gadget.

The sport band was very nice, definitely one i would pick up when I go to the beach or outdoor excursion.

I was extremely impressed with the classic buckle. The leather was firm and supple and the stainless steel accents really reinforced the look of the SS casing in the watch, it was simple yet beautiful. The leather loop was beautiful as well but the leather felt a little like plastic. Very different leather feel but amazing design.

The U.I was beautifully designed, there was more of a learning curve then I thought there would be, but nothing I couldn't handle after a few minutes of use. It is weird that glances and notifications can only be accessed from the watch face, but I'm sure the software will be refined soon enough.

I spent hours customizing the watch faces, I love adding the complications like the weather, activity app and battery and seeing how each watch face handles them.

Unfortunately we can not truly know how the watch will fit exactly in our lifestyle until we have one permanently but from what I experienced I am truly looking forward to getting mine delivered.
 
tg81 said:
Can you post a link for that info because Apple seem to be specifically claiming the full depth as 10.5mm on their website. No mention of the measurement excluding the heart rate sensor.
http://www.apple.com/au/watch/apple-watch/stainless-steel-case-black-sport-band/
They cant just pick and choose certain parts to exclude from a measurement.
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I doubt he has a link for you. Sounds made it up to me.

As far as the OP,

Thank you for your thoughts! A lot of useful insight that I haven't considered before. I'm a WIS myself and decided to order SS / white sports band. Won't be viewing it on demo as I'll have an intensive 14 day trial period for putting AW through it's paces. Pun intended.

TBH I'm not totally sure how the apple watch will fit in rotation. I love my watches. Perhaps I'll wear it exclusively for the first weeks and once the dust settles, decide on it's niche. The AW could be relegated as an around the house watch that allows me to have the iPhone on a different floor & still be connected to people who need to reach me. Controlling lighting / thermostat / home theatre (I use that wifi harmony system). Would be convenient for sure. Going to work / social function I can still see myself leaving the AW on the charger in flavour of something swiss :).

In any case I view the Apple Watch as a turning point in horology and wanted to be a part of it. Their's no question as to weather or not I'll still appreciate my swiss watches. There's a chance the AW will end up as a gateway drug into fine timepieces for many people.

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KPOM said:
I obviously have different views on the Watch and 38mm, but regarding releasing a product too early, Apple certainly did that with the original iPhone.
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The first iPhone was revolutionary despite its shortcomings. You can always argue that waiting a little longer to release a product will yield a better and more refined product. Ultimately you have to draw a line and decide when it's good enough to introduce, and the first iPhone easily exceeded that standard, compared to everything else on the market at the time.
 
ninethirty said:
Maybe it seems weird because I didn't make a general recommendation at all. I proposed a number of scenarios and made a recommendation based on what I saw. I said if you're on the fence, I'd suggest a pass; meaning, if you already had concerns, like I did, it will disappoint. I said if you're sold, I'd still recommend seeing it in person (for the same reason I'm glad I did - I thought the Milanese looked best in photos, and all of the SS for that model, but found that to be otherwise in person), and lastly I said if you're sold no matter what, I found the space grey aluminum to look best.
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You're right, don't know how I missed that. Sorry.
 
freediverx said:
The first iPhone was revolutionary despite its shortcomings. You can always argue that waiting a little longer to release a product will yield a better and more refined product. Ultimately you have to draw a line and decide when it's good enough to introduce, and the first iPhone easily exceeded that standard, compared to everything else on the market at the time.
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The iPhone was also largely a defensive reaction by Apple against "music phones" that threatened its iPod business. The concept of the iPhone was nothing new, but what was unexpected was how Apple executed it (essentially with a touchscreen pocket computer).

The iPad was a "solution in search of a problem" in that it doesn't do as much as a PC and doesn't do much more than a phone can. However, despite its falling sales, it is still a reasonably successful product and I think we might be looking at its sales figures in a different light had the large phones been released before the iPad, and the iPad ramped UP to where it will eventually land.

I think that's where we are with the Watch. It doesn't "do" anything that a phone can't, but it offers convenience. Lots of people wear watches, though the number is falling. If this or another wearable can "reclaim" some of that space, it will be successful. It might get some Millennials thinking about wearing watches while convincing existing watch owners to try something new without giving up too much of the old (except some convenience since it has to be charged every day).
 
Someone who used to work at Apple tweeted that they first heard about Apple working on this force touch/haptics stuff in...2011. In the last couple years Apple has hired a lot of people from the medical field. Then look at ResearchKit. It seems obvious to me that Watch and ResearchKit will integrate at some point.
 
And when/if it does, and when it's a revolutionary device, I'll give it a second thought. For now though, this is the kind of thing that Samsung does, and I'm disappointed to see Apple releasing test products.

Rogifan said:
Someone who used to work at Apple tweeted that they first heard about Apple working on this force touch/haptics stuff in...2011. In the last couple years Apple has hired a lot of people from the medical field. Then look at ResearchKit. It seems obvious to me that Watch and ResearchKit will integrate at some point.
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Response to you from another thread

ninethirty said:
Convince me right now why this thing is amazing and why I'm being narrow minded when it comes to it's usefulness - and I'll be dead honest in my reaction. No bias, no nothing. I'm open to being educated. Don't worry, I'll wait.
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I can’t find where you originally posted this, ninethirty, so I’m adding it to this thread. I’m not going to try to convince you of anything, least of all that the Apple Watch is “amazing.” I don’t think you’re being narrow-minded and not giving in to hyperbole doesn’t make you a troll. I’m not a watch person at all and you clearly are, so our criteria for Apple Watch passing muster are totally different. If you’re looking for a particular feature of the Apple Watch to wow you, however, I think you may be looking in the wrong place.

In my opinion, any potential “wow” factor of the Apple Watch will have little to do with form and function from a feature perspective. I think Apple’s goal with the Apple Watch focused on how we’ve come to interact with technology, and all of the Watch’s beautifully crafted engineering and technology is meant to serve that purpose.

Apple Watch is the embodiment of Apple’s “Designed by Apple in California” ad campaign of a few years ago, particularly their asking “does this deserve to exist?” comment. Apple recognizes how intimately connected to our digital devices we’ve become, and Apple Watch is Apple’s response to that. I agree that Apple Watch isn't quite the lightning strike that the iPhone was, but it is certainly the latest rumble of thunder still rolling on.

Will Apple’s effort to recalibrate, yet again, our relationship to technology succeed with Apple Watch? I don’t know, but I’m eager to see how it might and encouraged by what it promises to be. As others have noted, it isn’t perfect and will surely improve over time. Who knows? A few months or years from now, you and I both may come to realize we've been wowed after the fact.
 
ninethirty said:
I think you're somewhat right and somewhat wrong though about the future of traditional watches. When Apple (or anyone) gets this right, they'll absolutely eat up the market of $100-$1000 watches. Brands like Nixon and Fossil are going to be screwed, yes. But the people spending 5k+ on watches right now are going to continue to do so, even if they also wear an Apple watch. The Tag thing is interesting, because Tag isn't in the same category as Rolex, AP, Panerai, Patek, etc. It's a notch below, so naturally they're scrambling as you put it.
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I think you're correct. It's the $1000'ish and under watches that are really nervous, although higher end brands me eventually feel the effects, if smartwatches eventually become so important to every life that they compete for wrist space.

FWIW, to be fair, I wouldn't put Rolex and Panerai in the same class as Patek and AP, either.
 
I think some of your points are right on. I used to own a Samsung watch and at the end of the day nothing really "Special" about it. I found after about a month just using my phone. Needless to say sold the Samsung and didnt regret it.

As for the Apple watch I thought the interface was very nice. Coming from the Samsung it felt easier to navigate. Sure lots of different swipes, but not rocket science. I think Apples biggest mistake is branding this as a "classic" time piece. When all said and done nothing really "Classic" about it. Its cool technology definitely, but tends to remind me of old calculator watches. As for Apps---the Apple Pay capabilities had me sold. I use Apple Pay almost daily.

It will be nice to play with for awhile, but I can guarantee many will get bored with the basic functions able to do. A high tech watch needs to have stand alone connection service where it can synch and download without solely relying wifi or bluletooth. service and be able to link from far away to really take off. Samsung is attempting that as well.
 
Well put post. The interface looks very cluttered in terms of navigating through the apps, and I agree I was surprised at how much smaller they look in person.

It does still feel like a v1 product though. I'm excited to see what the next few years brings as I find getting notifications on my wrist has become incredibly useful; the phone can stay on silent and if my child's school rings when I'm at work - I'll pick the call up. I'm very selective about what makes it to my wrist though..
I'm just happy to stay with my rather more dumber smart watch for now that has a battery life of around 7 days :)
 
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