Trying to say Goodbye to Google

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by rowley, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. rowley macrumors 6502


    Dec 16, 2008
    London, UK
    Im an trying (for the most part) to stop using google services.
    Partly because of the T&Cs, but mostly I think they are becoming a bit too big for their boots.

    I have a number of computers, mainly Mac, iOS and one Windows PC
    I use iCloud for calendars, contacts
    I have my own domain, webstorage and imap email
    I have switch all my browsers from using Google to Bing Search
    I use dropbox, facebook (which Im thinking of ditching) and twitter.

    I have two issues though:
    Online video - Youtube is still the most used and has the most content.
    Online Documents - I have all my documents local save one, which is a spreadsheet, shared amongst a number of people.

    My question is:
    Has anyone completely dropped Google for other services, stopped using You Tube for something else, is there a good alternative to Google Docs I can migrate this shared document with.
    Can this not actually be done, and the web (and peoples lives) is controlled by Google?
  2. miles01110 macrumors Core


    Jul 24, 2006
    The Ivory Tower (I'm not coming down)
    Think about how you are solving your problem. You're just switching from one data mongerer (Google) to another (Apple). The net effect is zero.
  3. SvP macrumors 6502


    Mar 31, 2009
    I don't have any help for you right now, i just wanted to applaud your decision and i think you're doing the right thing.

    Apple does not use data for ads. It sells stuff to you for $. In that effect it is totally different than google and Facebook.
  4. fireshot91 macrumors 601


    Jul 31, 2008
    Northern VA
    For the documents, you may benefit from using something like Microsoft's SkyDrive/OfficeToGo/etc.

    I don't even know what it's called, but I know it's built into Hotmail like Google Docs is built into Gmail.

    For videos, you could use Vimeo, Hulu, etc?
  5. Doc750 macrumors 6502a

    Aug 11, 2010
    It's been proven that bing uses google search engine results

    So your just adding a middle man ...

    Resistance is futile.
  6. smithrh macrumors 68020


    Feb 28, 2009
    OP, are you looking to stop hosting videos on youtube, or stop watching them on youtube?

    If you want a different free hoster, Vimeo is basically the equivalent of youtube.

    Watching is another deal altogether. If you don't want to continue to add your data into Google's enormous data pile but still want to view videos on youtube, then you might consider the following tactics:

    * Use a script blocker such as Ghostery

    * Remove your cookies on exit from your browser (Firefox has a setting for this, Safari has an extension)

    * Use a VPN/Proxy server

    Basically these steps make Google's data collection efforts much less effective.
  7. iJohnHenry macrumors P6


    Mar 22, 2008
    On tenterhooks
    If they are to be trusted, go here, sign-in, and change your Browser History settings.

    Here is an article on the matter.
  8. tobefirst macrumors 68040


    Jan 24, 2005
    St. Louis, MO
    You may also want to consider your collaborators' thoughts since you are working with them on some shared documents. Are they willing to move to another platform?

    I work with about a dozen people on many, many shared documents, and trying to switch that over to another service would not go well for me. It would likely result in much lower participation (as far as additions/changes to the document) and would essentially make it just mine.
  9. Silencio macrumors 68020


    Jul 18, 2002
    I've been switching to DuckDuckGo for my search needs. So far, so good.

    As for Apple being as much of a "data mongerer" as Google, at least Apple doesn't sell your user profile data off to advertisers.

    I second the recommendation for Ghostery.
  10. AnimaLeo macrumors 6502

    Sep 2, 2009
    Turn off your computer, go live in a cave with tin foil over your head. :rolleyes:
  11. benthewraith macrumors 68040


    May 27, 2006
    Miami, FL
    This is incorrect. Apple does collect information on customers for the purpose of iAds advertising. It won't turn over personally identifiable information to anyone without a court order or are in a strategic partnership.
  12. -aggie- macrumors P6


    Jun 19, 2009
    Where bunnies are welcome.
    I can't get a signal there.
  13. macbook pro i5 macrumors 65816

    macbook pro i5

    May 13, 2011
    New Zealand
    That is the single MOST BOSS comback:D:D:D:D:D
  14. ixodes macrumors 601


    Jan 11, 2012
    Pacific Coast, USA
    If one takes the time, you'll find Apple & Google have policies that are nearly identical. I know, I've read them both, very carefully. I use them both, and will continue to do so.

    Each collect as much information on their respective users as possible. No company can serve it's customers best without understanding their target market. Data collection is crucial to a companies success.

    The fact is, despite perceptions of those who either Anti-Google or Anti-Apple, neither wants to anger it's customers & lose them. Neither is Evil, and if one searches thoroughly there's always some issues when taken out of context that can be used against either of them.

    We live in a digital world where the power of technology advances at warp speed. A nightmare for the insecure and paranoid, a wealth of useful tools for the well adjusted, mindful user.

    Life is not risk free. :)
  15. tigres macrumors 68040


    Aug 31, 2007
    Land of the Free-Waiting for Term Limits
  16. ppc_michael, Apr 9, 2012
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2012

    ppc_michael Guest


    Apr 26, 2005
    Los Angeles, CA
    ixodes speaks the truth.

    What is it you don't like about Google's ToC that other services do not do?

    If you're truly worried about your privacy and not just being a follower because Apple is grumpy at Google for the moment, you should be much more worried about Facebook.
  17. rowley thread starter macrumors 6502


    Dec 16, 2008
    London, UK
    Very helpful indeed.
  18. rowley thread starter macrumors 6502


    Dec 16, 2008
    London, UK
    I never said Google is evil. I'm just looking for a cleaner, better solution to what Google provides. I'm not particularly happy with their T&Cs and now that they are everywhere with +1's like Facebook likes, I'm tired of having them full in my face all the time.
    As for my privacy, I'd like to think that I do not put anything online that I do not want to make public. The web is now the soapbox in the corner of society that everyone can shout from.

    There is some good advice here, but I think ultimately I will still need to use Google for some things, I think it's going to take a while before some services come up to par.
  19. rocknblogger macrumors 68020


    Apr 2, 2011
    New Jersey
    Very well said. I feel exactly the same way.
  20. SvP macrumors 6502


    Mar 31, 2009
    I stand corrected.

    I hate the stupid comment voting system by the way, it's used by the lazy only.
  21. chaosbunny macrumors 68000


    Mar 11, 2005
    down to earth, far away from any clouds
    Criticism of Apples/Microsofts/Googles/Facebooks/ ... offerings has less to do with paranoia than blind acceptance of these services has to to with stupidity. Especially with technology advancing so fast it is important for users to make informed decisions on what to use and what to skip.
  22. Melrose, Apr 10, 2012
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2012

    Melrose Suspended


    Dec 12, 2007
    The fact of the matter is, in today's online world you have to use Google if you want the broadest range of support and services. Google Docs are used by lots of people, and if a potential client doesn't use Google Docs, they probably are familiar at least with it or with another Google service, which makes it the best bet for sharing documents online. Cloud computing means someone is tracking you all the time, and if it matters to you then you are forced to choose the lesser of two evils.

    If you are an Apple user, then you might be able to utilize iCloud to a degree, but it's not widely adopted yet and even then Apple still collects information about you.

    As said already, the nature of cloud computing means some company at some point, and as often as they possibly can, is actively tracking what you do and how you do it; To a degree they use it to better their product, but to a larger degree they use it to make more money. Google is the worst, but they're not the only ones. I just don't like Google snooping my email just to serve me more targeted ads.

    Au Contraire. Google is the largest data miner in the world. Apple's on the list, but it's down the list. Ergo, Google is worse.

    Google owns other ad networks that track your activity. Apple doesn't.

    OP: Thinking of ditching Twitter? You don't like Google snooping but you're ditching Twitter in favor of Facebook? Facebook is a huge data monger also.
  23. Hastings101 macrumors 68020


    Jun 22, 2010
    Honestly, it's more practical than ditching Google lol
  24. smithrh macrumors 68020


    Feb 28, 2009
    No, it isn't, and comments like yours don't help the situation.

    Add something practical or get out of the way.
  25. ixodes macrumors 601


    Jan 11, 2012
    Pacific Coast, USA
    Thank You!

    Your signature line is ever so appropriate.

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