Well, Qualcomm is a $70 Billion business, and you are asking what if they buy out and take over a $200 Billion business....
Are you sure? I'm seeing TMSC only valued at around the $30Bn range. Either way I don't think QC would buy them.
Well, Qualcomm is a $70 Billion business, and you are asking what if they buy out and take over a $200 Billion business....
Exciting, looking forward to see what Apple can do with this. Hopefully they've already started working on a way to go below this, as many consider 5nm the floor for traditional silicon chips...
What would Apple do if Qualcomm buys TSMC.
That would cost apple arm and legs
There are other foundries out there. Apple designs the chips. Other fabs make them. They could go to any number of places. I work in the semiconductor industry.What would Apple do if Qualcomm buys TSMC.
That would cost apple arm and legs
Much cheaper to just hire away the talent... Leaves Qualcomm with a bunch of cutting edge fabs and no one to run them.I suspect that if there were a chance that Qualcomm were thinking of purchasing TSMC, Apple would hand over a blank check to TSMC and own the foundries themselves.
Market cap looks like $207B right now.Are you sure? I'm seeing TMSC only valued at around the $30Bn range. Either way I don't think QC would buy them.
Also, expect per-core Geekbench in the 7000 range... a true beast.
Are you sure? I'm seeing TMSC only valued at around the $30Bn range. Either way I don't think QC would buy them.
Well, Qualcomm is a $70 Billion business, and you are asking what if they buy out and take over a $200 Billion business....
I don’t think it’ll be that long. I’m expecting something this year. Maybe even talk about macOS on ARM at this years WWDC.
Its good then that the 5nm and 7nm is just pure marketing that does not correspond to any actual structure size (keep in mind that Intel 10nm is higher transistor density than TSMC 7nm), also, the floor is closer to 2nm (with ångström precision on the fin structure) and that is for CPP, TSMC 7nm has a CPP of 40nm, their 5nm process maybe will get down to 35nm, so its a long long long way down to 2nm CPP.
Since Global Foundries gave up on chasing 7nm, there aren’t many options afaik. Samsung is barely at 7nm, I’m not sure they could manufacture 5nm at volume 12-14 months from now, when Apple needs them.There are other foundries out there. Apple designs the chips. Other fabs make them. They could go to any number of places. I work in the semiconductor industry.
I don't know for certain. There are tons of semiconductor companies most people haven't heard of. Apple is one of our customers, our chips are in almost everything, I guarantee you own products with our chips, and I doubt anyone has heard of us. Though we can't produce anything close to 7nm let alone 5nm.Since Global Foundries gave up on chasing 7nm, there aren’t many options afaik. Samsung is barely at 7nm, I’m not sure they could manufacture 5nm at volume 12-14 months from now, when Apple needs them.
If there's an ARM Mac, this is where the process will start.
Also, expect per-core Geekbench in the 7000 range... a true beast.
“Just” seems a little harsh, I’m not a chip making expert but New smaller fab processes seem to cost billions, I doubt apples chip investment is anywhere near as muchTSMC isn't designing the chips. Think of them as a printer of Apple's design. They are just creating the 5nm process and spending the capital.
Oh yay, a synthetic benchmark...
How can you compare it against real world applications? Oh wait, you can't, because they don't exist in iOS world.
2020 is going to be the year to upgrade
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Hopefully Apple will have their own in-house 5G modems by 2021
Its good then that the 5nm and 7nm is just pure marketing that does not correspond to any actual structure size (keep in mind that Intel 10nm is higher transistor density than TSMC 7nm), also, the floor is closer to 2nm (with ångström precision on the fin structure) and that is for CPP, TSMC 7nm has a CPP of 40nm, their 5nm process maybe will get down to 35nm, so its a long long long way down to 2nm CPP.
I’m not minimizing TSMC’s contribution, but Apple designs the chips and has correctly not gotten into the capital intensive chip making business.“Just” seems a little harsh, I’m not a chip making expert but New smaller fab processes seem to cost billions, I doubt apples chip investment is anywhere near as much
I thought 7nm was about the limit before quantum tunneling would see electrons jumping through the substrate. I guess they've come up with a practical solution to that and I equally guess I'm a bit behind the times on this, heh.