~1/50th the power dissipation. So, yeah.
I don't believe this rumor. I don't see why they can't start with A7. But hey, maybe Apple is skipping A7 and going straight to A8 and iPhone 7!!!!
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~1/50th the power dissipation. So, yeah.
I don't believe this rumor. I don't see why they can't start with A7. But hey, maybe Apple is skipping A7 and going straight to A8 and iPhone 7!!!!
I think it is more that apple doesn't want to do business with a company who is also a competitor (and can just as easily be privy to your tech and use them against you).
TSMC is just a manufacturing plant, so it is unlikely to compete in any way.
Assuming they move to ARM based CPU's then I'd guess it'll be 2015/2016 in line with LLVM maturing its support for ARM64 but then again there would have to be a damn good justification for such a move other than "well, might as well standardise on a single architecture" particularly when one considers that ARM's only benefit is the ability to scale down but once you start throwing on the sorts of features found in advance processors such as x86-64 you quickly find that the 'power advantage' quickly disappears and the gap isn't significant to justify the pain and suffering caused by the architecture move. IMHO you've got a better chance of Apple moving to Intel for their embedded CPU if we're going to talk about pie in the sky ideas given that it would mean that they could deploy their hardware engineers to more useful endeavours and enjoy even juicer margins.
True and Samsung like to claim that there is a 'firewall' between their devisions but I wouldn't believe their claim at all - end of the day when you outsource a key component of your product that makes your product range unique then you'd simply asking for trouble in the long run.
Sure if you see that an xbox360 needed a cooling solution that was as loud as a jet engine and you can have now same or more power in a phone.
Yes this IS amazing
That is something many people are forgetting of overlooking: Apple moving back to their own chip design. The Airs and Minis and maybe even iMacs could possibly move back to Apple-designed CPU/GPUs in the next 3 years.
Where it's going
Where the industry is going is that the smartphone is going to become your computer. It will initially dock for a desktop like the Ubuntu phone, and later will dock into a laptop shell if portability is needed. Eventually, we may dock into another OS. This is already possible by booting from a flash drive, or just switching to that OS from what is running.
This will start in china, where people will see the wisdom of not needing to purchase a computer and a smartphone. It will spread like wildfire into India as well. And then to other second world countries where Internet penetration is still less than 20% among adults.
Intel now has the processors to do this. Ubuntu will have the operating system in the fall, it is already released to developers. These chips are fast enough that they will be able to run emulators so all the fanboys can run their iOS applications until they get cloned for Ubuntu. intel has already paid Samsung to include an Atom chip in a tablet. This will be the last opportunity for intel, as arm servers are being developed. The problem for intel, is that processors for smartphones only support a $50 profit, instead of the $100 intel needs to cover USA production costs. There is actually a glut of servers in the world, initial surveys showed that as many of 30% of the servers in server farms were doing nothing but consuming power and producing heat.
The only thing missing from the prototype of this concept is that the smartphone will become the trackpad/touchscreen for the computer.
The processor that is going to float to the top in this is the chip company that produces just one processor, one that can be customized with firmware to provide the functionality needed for the device, and the clock speed to meet the power requirements. Untold billions are spent on too many variations of chips, producing CPUs that all do exactly the same thing, to get functionality undetectable by the average user. The economies of scale of producing just one chip are phenomenal. IBM used to (maybe still does) do this with the power pc chips in the as/400. You wanted to upgrade to a faster model, you paid, the tech rep showed up, and changed the microcode and you had the faster model. The complete functionality was already there, from the desktop to the high end model.
And btw, I live in Ecuador, and there are NO laptops available for less than $700. The opportunity to give a student a smartphone, tablet and home computer for that price is simply to great to be missed.
Where the industry is going is that the smartphone is going to become your computer. It will initially dock for a desktop like the Ubuntu phone, and later will dock into a laptop shell if portability is needed. Eventually, we may dock into another OS. This is already possible by booting from a flash drive, or just switching to that OS from what is running.
This will start in china, where people will see the wisdom of not needing to purchase a computer and a smartphone. It will spread like wildfire into India as well. And then to other second world countries where Internet penetration is still less than 20% among adults.
Intel now has the processors to do this. Ubuntu will have the operating system in the fall, it is already released to developers. These chips are fast enough that they will be able to run emulators so all the fanboys can run their iOS applications until they get cloned for Ubuntu. intel has already paid Samsung to include an Atom chip in a tablet. This will be the last opportunity for intel, as arm servers are being developed. The problem for intel, is that processors for smartphones only support a $50 profit, instead of the $100 intel needs to cover USA production costs. There is actually a glut of servers in the world, initial surveys showed that as many of 30% of the servers in server farms were doing nothing but consuming power and producing heat.
The only thing missing from the prototype of this concept is that the smartphone will become the trackpad/touchscreen for the computer.
The processor that is going to float to the top in this is the chip company that produces just one processor, one that can be customized with firmware to provide the functionality needed for the device, and the clock speed to meet the power requirements. Untold billions are spent on too many variations of chips, producing CPUs that all do exactly the same thing, to get functionality undetectable by the average user. The economies of scale of producing just one chip are phenomenal. IBM used to (maybe still does) do this with the power pc chips in the as/400. You wanted to upgrade to a faster model, you paid, the tech rep showed up, and changed the microcode and you had the faster model. The complete functionality was already there, from the desktop to the high end model.
And btw, I live in Ecuador, and there are NO laptops available for less than $700. The opportunity to give a student a smartphone, tablet and home computer for that price is simply to great to be missed.
HA HA! Some of us remember ZX81s with 1KB of RAM, one of the first truly personal computers to the masses
Move back? When were they ever?
And the ARM in their Mac line is completely unrealistic. The performance is not comparable. These architectures aren't meant for those power ranges. It's yet to be seen if ARM's 64 bit ISA changes that.
Apple has been "simplifying" OSX with iOS and improving its capability with multitasking, graphics, and memory and power management. A laptop has considerably more TDP capacity than a phone or a pad and could easily support two such supercharged processors as well as a new GPGPU co-processor (or two). Furthermore Apple has been writing work class apps for the streamlined iOS with iWork apps for iOS.
PCIe based flash and cube memory would certainly make even a weak-a$$ chip seem fast.
Rocketman
Samsung is one step ahead of Apple
As Apple is switching to TSMC for chip manufacturing, Samsung is switching to Intel's Atom chips (for now just for tablets). This might be a better strategy since Intel has far superior process technology compared to TSMC.
As Apple is switching to TSMC for chip manufacturing, Samsung is switching to Intel's Atom chips (for now just for tablets). This might be a better strategy since Intel has far superior process technology compared to TSMC.
They use the best CPUs available. There is nothing wrong with that (at least for consumers).
Eh, they use all the CPUs available is more accurate. The reason they use Qualcomm in NA is due to their whole package when the cellular radios are taken into account. Otherwise they'd be using Exynos.
5S releases in the fall, and the iphone 6 comes out in Spring to royally infuriate everyone who bought a 5S only 7 months earlier.
I'm thinking July is a possibility (9 months), which wouldn't upset anyone, but I think their chip manufacturing processes is really what determines their speed and capacity.
it'd take at least two years till the A8 chip hits the market, right now apple should be busy bringing out the next iphone, plaese apple, bring it out earlier than the expected time.
Your phone doesn't have anywhere near 32GB of RAM and is not likely to have for some time I suspect.
let's hope they bring out great chips and bring iphone back on the number one spot(where it belongs)
Strangely, I felt the same way too before I even owned a smartphone. Then I just dove in the smartphone world with an iPhone 4S. Now I'm using an iPhone 5 and those are the only 2 smartphones I've ever used I don't regret it. I'd love to try an android phone but I wouldn't make a serious commitment with an android phone.You're right. I guess then, I won't be getting an iPhone until I can get one with the A9 chip. Yessuree, that'll be the one. I know I waited for the A4 and then A5, and now was waiting until the A6, but I decided to stop all this "not buying until the next chip comes out" nonsense. I'll set the bar really high and not worry about it for a few years.
But someday I will get my first iPhone. Really. Apple just has to meet my (ever moving) expectations.
Let's hope TSMC can 'deliver'; there aren't that many foundries left that can deliver the quality of chips APPLE requires, at the needed quantities. APPLE may have considered going down that road of building their own foundry, but perhaps came to the conclusion that it wasn't cost-effective.....