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TUAW posts antenna video with ACTUAL numbers
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If the problem is only how you hold it, then the extent of the problem is measured by how people hold it. By the widespread reporting of the problem, it appears many people hold their phones in a way that affects the phone's performance. So, it's a big problem.
Attached is mine from yesterday. Sitting on a table, holding w/ a case, and holding with no case. Note the bars.
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Oh really that's why webster has an entry for it.
"–adverb Nonstandard... Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead."
It's a colloquialism. It's also a double negative. Most people use it where they should be saying either 'regardless' or 'irrespective.'
I guess what your test proves and what most people don't want to face, is that it is at&t that is responsible for this debacle.
But it's not a network issue since O2 customers in the UK have the same problems. People need to start realizing it's the phone and then it becomes a lot easier to understand why the problems exist.
I'm just not expecting Apple to do much about it. They will continue to say this is how they designed it, and will recommend using a case if you have problems. Most consumers will accept that, or not, and act accordingly.
People hoping for some huge public admission that they screwed up somehow or that they'll redesign the hardware will ultimately be very disappointed. They'll still sell tens of millions of them.
As you can see, no problem on my phone.
Also if I pick the phone up the phone from the table and use the "wrong" grip, to make or receive a call five bars remain for the duration.
Yes but it IS a word, peterjcat posted that it wasn't and I corrected him. I find that it's a perfectly cromulent word
Besides I get tired of the nazi grammars more interested in picking apart the verbiage then discussing the subject matter.
Oh really that's why webster has an entry for it.
"Ain't" is also in Webster's, but if you use it in regular conversation, you sound uneducated. Colloquialisms are in dictionaries. That doesn't make them proper words.
The problem I have with the issue is that the drops are not happening to everyone at all times. That makes me think it is more of a software issue, but I am not expert. It might very well be a combination of hardware, software, and location. If that is the case, then Apple will have a very hard time correcting it.
As noted many times, if you have a true five bars to begin with, you won't see the problem.
In your case, you dropped to a single bar which was still sufficient to communicate pretty well.
(Although your ping delay and upload speed seemed to suffer.)
Yes but it IS a word, peterjcat posted that it wasn't and I corrected him. I find that it's a perfectly cromulent word
Besides I get tired of the nazi grammars more interested in picking apart the verbiage then discussing the subject matter.
"irregardless" is like "ain't"... sure, they are both in the dictionary, but that doesn't mean most folks aren't going to look at you funny when you use them.
Well my friend, I am also not trying to be an ass, but if YOU would take the time to check the date of my original post you will see that I posted this a few minutes after the TUAW post went live. On what day? Yesterday.
Thanks for playing, though. It's always fun when someone tries to be snarky and ends up making themselves look like a moron.
ha! Yup, this is the thread I saw yesterday. For some reason I thought it was new. I wasn't being snarky either. Enjoy the chance to make me look silly, it doesn't happen often.
ha! Yup, this is the thread I saw yesterday. For some reason I thought it was new. I wasn't being snarky either. Enjoy the chance to make me look silly, it doesn't happen often.
Alright, fair enough. I misread your tone. Love the pic, btw.
I know but I can't get it to drop to no service or even edge. I have a sim free iP4 so tried it on different networks with the same results.
Also if you are using the net on it you don't have to hold it "that" way, if you know what I mean.
Go somewhere you have three bars and try it. Any test with five bars doesn't prove anything. Either way, you're a single datapoint and that doesn't disprove anything.
Data is most certainly affected. It's been widely demonstrated even in this thread by my screen shot comparison. Holding the phone kills all data.
Notice in the video has it shows 95db and a full five bars. That's for sure a software problem, as they should of been sitting at 2-3 bars max.
I find it hard to believe Apple has overlooked this formula for years, as that's a pretty big "oversight". When this software update is pushed out people are going to be complaining about the low number of signal bars everywhere.
I find it hard to believe Apple has overlooked this formula for years, as that's a pretty big "oversight". When this software update is pushed out people are going to be complaining about the low number of signal bars everywhere.
I also find it hard to believe, especially since they probably have hired some of the best engineers in the world. That leads me to believe that they've been gaming the numbers this entire time, and now it is biting them in the ass, as Gruber put it.
Yes, that's a big part of the problem here. Some people see 5 bars, when it's actually a wide range. Hopefully once this is fixed it will help to better explain why some people see this and some don't. Right now 5 bars could mean a lot of different things.
And Apple was totally fudging the numbers. This isn't that big of a surprise after using iPhones for three years.
Yes there is a problem with your phone as well as everyone else. You may be able to demonstrate that you do not have sufficient attenuation in a high signal area such that it does not affect the performance of your phone, but in areas of medium to low signal strength you will easily be able to demonstrate the same problem everyone else has.
Posting high signal strength tests proves nothing at all and is a waste of everyone's time. Post the same test starting with 4 bars on your phone and that would be a credible addition to the discussion, but no one has been able to do that.