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Why use this instead of Slack or Discord? I don’t understand the target. Who needs an isolated distributed platform for “tweets”.

Also a lot of the excitement for this (even on this site) was when Twitter rolled back its censorship to 2015 levels and once the world didn’t end the question becomes - who cares?
Slack & Discord are both Centralized, like Twitter & Facebook.

Here's a better explainer:
 
ugh I miss tweetbots so much. It appears that the initial Elon uproar has quieted down and Twitter is still as popular as ever. I don't think Mastodon is going to take off unfortunately.... Anyone worth following are on twitter and have not skipped a beat.
 
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ugh I miss tweetbots so much. It appears that the initial Elon uproar has quieted down and Twitter is still as popular as ever. I don't think Mastodon is going to take off unfortunately.... Anyone worth following are on twitter and have not skipped a beat.
Most of the folks I followed on Twitter have all moved to Mastodon, and now on Twitter all I see are promoted posts, Elon & his Posts and Replies, and then a few news orgs I still follow. I guess I'm having a different experience than you.
 
Most of the folks I followed on Twitter have all moved to Mastodon, and now on Twitter all I see are promoted posts, Elon & his Posts and Replies, and then a few news orgs I still follow. I guess I'm having a different experience than you.
much different.
 
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The whole point of an app like twitter is everyone of note is on it, within reason. Tweetbot was one of the best apps ever though. RIP. Mastodon has the same crappy social media censorship model of other apps with hall monitors waiting for someone to say the wrong thing, so it's dead in the water to me.

Just do what I do and don’t say anything stupid. Problem solved.
 
can we finally stop the "mastadon" vs "twitter" debate and accept that "nostr" is the way to go?

PS. I know most people will just ignore me.
 
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Mona (Mastodon) and Spring (Twitter) are better IMO, they’re a one-off cost rather than subscription, and have both Mac and iOS apps.

Spring, the Twitter client, still works today despite the API changes that booted Tweetbot offline.


 
Mona (Mastodon) and Spring (Twitter) are better IMO, they’re a one-off cost rather than subscription, and have both Mac and iOS apps.

Spring, the Twitter client, still works today despite the API changes that booted Tweetbot offline.



Mona is my #1 App now, way much better.
 
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Hopefully Mastodon will grow in popularity but I’m not sure if 1.2 million active users counts as particularly popular compared to other sites.

Mastodon seems quite unevenly inhabited at the moment, which is to say some niches like tech are well represented with lots of users, great content and engagement, while other niches like, say, spirituality are basically non-existent.
 
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Yes, and I specially remember reading Paul from TapBots pointing out how there's actually nothing different in how Mastodon's specifically handling the DM's, it's just that Ice Cubes makes it LOOK like they're in a different spot. Most other clients keep the DM's in line and maybe highlight them (or in Mona's case, you can make them look however you want). Ultimately, the DM's are always still in line in your Feed, it's just that one app client is choosing to make it look like they're not while the other clients show them accurately.
That's all well and good but when I wake up every day there's over a hundred new posts in my regular feed. If I want to continue a private convo I had with someone a week ago that would be miserable to find it. I can find it in seconds in Ice Cubes and send my message.
 
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Why use this instead of Slack or Discord? I don’t understand the target. Who needs an isolated distributed platform for “tweets”.

Also a lot of the excitement for this (even on this site) was when Twitter rolled back its censorship to 2015 levels and once the world didn’t end the question becomes - who cares?
It seems like you’re misunderstanding a fundamental part of Mastodon. The instances aren’t isolated. It’s like email. If you have an icloud.com email, you can still correspond with Gmail and Outlook users.
 

Wow! Instead of paying *$30* to use this and the iOS app, I can get a discounted rate of just $25!​


mastadon does not have any censorship model. Its like a minecraft server anyone can instantiate their own and declare their own moderation rules.

You can set one up just for yourself, and post your thoughts and then censor yourself.

If you do not censor content on your own server, you could get de-federated or whatever and blocked from other servers.

Basically, you're forced to bend to the will of others' moderation rules.
 
While I applaud the company in their continued development of Mac and iOS apps, I do grow tired of the ever present subscription model, as something like this is not worth $25 a year for me.
 
I don't use Mastodon but I just noticed this app doesn't collect any personal data, which is... impressive, to say the least:

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Compare this with Twitter 😬:

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To be fair the app and the service are decoupled which isn't true for the Twitter app. But it still doesn't explain why the Twitter app or service would need so much data 😵‍💫
 
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If you do not censor content on your own server, you could get de-federated or whatever and blocked from other servers.

Basically, you're forced to bend to the will of others' moderation rules.
In line with the natural order. You are free to say your inanity and I am free to walk inside and lock my door.
 
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The whole point of an app like twitter is everyone of note is on it, within reason.
That's the main reason why I still look at Twitter, even though I also use and prefer Mastodon. The people I'm interested in post there. 98%+ of the Twitter accounts I follow are for reasons other than politics, and none of their posts would be removed from either platform... well, except the reporting on Musk's jet wasn't removed from Mastodon*... so it's not a huge deal.

*And I'm fine with there being a rule to not provide the location of people... but if you are going to specifically mention leaving an account up as proof of your commitment to free speech, and then decide to change the rule later, you've shown that you don't have the commitment to free speech that you said you did.

Tweetbot was one of the best apps ever though. RIP. Mastodon has the same crappy social media censorship model of other apps with hall monitors waiting for someone to say the wrong thing, so it's dead in the water to me. Mastodon is a poor man’s twitter with less users for folks with a thin skin or those who wish to live life in an echo chamber.
Twitter may be more lax now when it comes to dead-naming or anti-vaccine posts, but that's hardly the whole story. Elon is less likely to fight censorship requests/demands from countries other than his own. There's evidence that he has shadow-banned accounts because of his personal grudges. He attempted to blackmail NPR into posting again (if you don't start posting again, I'll delete your account and give the @NPR handle to someone else).

And then, the most obvious one, giving post visibility priority to people who pay Musk. Don't get me wrong—that's his prerogative—but anybody who praises Musk for bringing back "free speech" but does not criticize him for prioritizing blue checkmarks doesn't really care about getting people out of echo chambers, and doesn't believe in a meritocracy the best arguments naturally win out.

Twitter is much better than all three for getting broad information and divergent opinions.
The issue is that the most broad and divergent may not lead to the most representative view. Gab allows some posts that even Musk's Twitter won't. But it's so full of racism and antisemitism that most people don't want to use it, which leads to less diversity of views in practice, even if it isn't enforced by mandate.

Twitter also has many features for muting certain words, topics and conversations (which I use to make my experience more pleasant and a bit less political) and not too many ads. Curating your own experience is infinitely better than someone else censoring for your experience.

And unlike YouTube when you block an account on twitter it stays blocked even in search.
I appreciate that Twitter allows blocking ad accounts. But if Musk really cared about allowing me to curate my experience, he'd let me turn off prioritization of Twitter Blue accounts. He'd give me more power to mass block accounts. He'd let me ignore accounts based on their profiles (I'd block all NFT and other crypto accounts).

About every 5th tweet I see is an ad. I was using Tweetbot before Musk, so I never saw an ad. I understand that isn't sustainable, but maybe just make a no ads subscription?
 
To be fair the app and the service are decoupled which isn't true for the Twitter app. But it still doesn't explain why the Twitter app or service would need so much data 😵‍💫
That makes sense, but then I checked out the official Mastodon app and they too don't collect anything! Wth, how do they do that?

Makes you really question all the other apps that collect so much.

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That’s because Mastodon is decentralized, and none of the different instances (so far) care to gather any information about you because they stand for a better moral.
 
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I feel like most of the squeaky wheels have silently returned to Twitter because of how ridiculous Mastadon is but good on TapBots for chasing money.
 
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Slack & Discord are both Centralized, like Twitter & Facebook.

Here's a better explainer:
Discord goes to great lengths to make itself seem decentralized, even the whole gimmick of calling individual communities "servers". Meanwhile the Mastodon communities are actual separate servers.
 
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