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I will say that Twitter DOES have the better logo though:

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Just goes to show how incredibly horrible Elon Musk is... he makes anything that he's not associated with look good.

To me it just goes to show how in the pocket of corporations the media is. Additionally it shows how simple it is to still control the masses with snake oil.

Either way, your response doesn’t really address what I said so I’m not sure if you responded to the right person.
 
I think the term “poached” refers to companies going after the current employees of another company. I guess Elon thought that all of those employees who he said weren’t doing anything would just end up working down at In and Out Burger and not in a similar industry position at another company. He was so confident in his firings, but I guess he didn’t really see the long term consequences. Definitely a “genius” move there Elon. Oh well, there is always going back to labour exploitation in South Africa if this doesn’t work out.
 
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Which is different from Twitter being full of Elon Stans who pay $8 a month for a blue checkmark? Frankly, Twitter is awful and Threads is an easy move for anyone who already uses Meta...Twitter is doomed.

I wouldn't say "doomed", as the number of people who would rather light themselves on fire than have anything to do with any Meta product isn't exactly small. Smaller than the twitter user base when Elmo took over, yes, significantly bigger than the twitter user base before "the norms" arrived? Also, yes.

Mastodon really needed some big names in sports and entertainment to join and promote a few servers, like when names in sports and entertainment started using twitter. Right now, the only twitter accounts (tech and motorsports) I care about that show up at all on Mastodon are a handful of bots reposting what has been posted on twitter? So..

Now, if Blueski can get it's act together? Or, if Mastodon can attract even a handful of sports and entertainment stars and bring "the norms" to a server or two... If there are viable options that aren't Meta? If twitter is fighting three competitors at once?

Yes... DOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMEDDDDD!!!!!!!

And, I will enjoy that.

Until then, I'm more likely to weather the storm on a few favorite discorse and discord servers.. Hell, the lights are still on at an IRC server I used to practically live on.. well, I'm not going to Threads, that's for damn sure.
 
It’s the result of completely unregulated capitalism. With some regulation, there would be rich people, but just millionaires not billionaires. Multibillion dollar fortunes shouldn’t even be allowed to happen.

Exactly, and they’ve used their money to indoctrinate tens of millions of people that now do free pr for them.

You see people talking about tech billionaires all the time and how evil they are, yet they are far from the worst out there, the worst ones most people have probably never even heard of.

I used to think Musk was good, but his actions the last few years have proved otherwise. I’m not even sure what his position on something like climate change is anymore, his rocket launches are terrible for the environment. And now he’s so deep into far right wing conspiracies and mis-information, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear him announce that he’s going to start putting diesel engines in all new Teslas.

 
To me it just goes to show how in the pocket of corporations the media is. Additionally it shows how simple it is to still control the masses with snake oil.

Either way, your response doesn’t really address what I said so I’m not sure if you responded to the right person.

I think it does, and yes I responded to you...
All of a sudden the tech blog world is cheering on Mark Zuckerberg? “Bro this new FaceBook data mining tool is so great!”
They're cheering Zucc on because he isn't a moron and a far right extremist. Compared to what Musk turned Twitter into, Threads automatically looks great... no matter how much data it mines.
 
I wouldn't say "doomed", as the number of people who would rather light themselves on fire than have anything to do with any Meta product isn't exactly small. Smaller than the twitter user base when Elmo took over, yes, significantly bigger than the twitter user base before "the norms" arrived? Also, yes.

Mastodon really needed some big names in sports and entertainment to join and promote a few servers, like when names in sports and entertainment started using twitter. Right now, the only twitter accounts (tech and motorsports) I care about that show up at all on Mastodon are a handful of bots reposting what has been posted on twitter? So..

Now, if Blueski can get it's act together? Or, if Mastodon can attract even a handful of sports and entertainment stars and bring "the norms" to a server or two... If there are viable options that aren't Meta? If twitter is fighting three competitors at once?

Yes... DOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMEDDDDD!!!!!!!

And, I will enjoy that.

Until then, I'm more likely to weather the storm on a few favorite discorse and discord servers.. Hell, the lights are still on at an IRC server I used to practically live on.. well, I'm not going to Threads, that's for damn sure.
Ahh, IRC… That takes me back. Thanks for the walk down Memory Lane!
 
Not really relevant where their headquarters are. They are both multinational corporations with Meta originating from Massachusetts and Twitter being a Nevada Corporation. Because of the scope of the companies, this goes to federal court, not California court. Just remember when Apple and Qualcomm sued each other, it was handled by a federal court and a federal judge despite both being in California (Apple in Cupertino and Qualcomm in San Diego).

All Elon has to do is to sue in one of the 12 federal court districts where he feels he has the best chance of winning. And there’s nothing to stop him from suing in every other country where Meta and Twitter operate.
Nope, doesnt work that way for employment, not comparable cases at all

Also the relevant contracts for non-compete is between employee and employer, Musk would have to sue every former employee individually, not Meta, and it would have to be where they were employed (which, bear in mind, doesnt necessarily mean where they lived, it’s where the company or subsidiary that pays them is for most of this) which is 99% Cali - and a large portion of the rest were EU, which has even stronger protections for workers

EDIT: I’ll note I’m reasonably well versed in this because I work in tech, for Cali company, while being located outside of Cali personally.
 
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That is a tragedy. All sorts of iOS apps use that widget. I don't see how this is enforceable at all. If they want to try and enforce this they are going to have to deal with Apple.

Why would they fight with Apple? Apple spends millions (billions) on ads on Twitter.
 
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Twitter was headed to bankruptcy before Elon bought the company considering Twitter didn't have many profitable quarters and ad spending was going to dry up in end of 2022/1st Q of 2023. Weird you didn't even mention this but put 100% of the blame on Elon.

Just curious what you mean by “ad spending was going to dry up in end of 2022/1st Q of 2023
 
Why would they fight with Apple? Apple spends millions (billions) on ads on Twitter.

because almost every single app in ios and ipados uses the pull to refresh gesture. If Musk claims he owns it as part of the twitter deal, Apple won’t want to pay him for using the gesture.
 
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Umm. Elon mass fired twitter employees. They are expected to go work for Meta, Apple, or whatever tech companies they wish. If specific employees have specific pre-existing employment agreement preventing certain employment for a set period, that would be very small % of high level employees. Meta already stated that none of previous Twitter employees were a part of the initial Threads development team. So Elon, you reap what you sow.

People yawned for Twitter alternative without Elon Musk. And we got one.
 
Better off dumping both and going to forums, like this one, or something like Mastodon, where you can find a smaller like-minded community to join and not have people shouting or crap shoved in your face.
 
Nope, doesnt work that way for employment, not comparable cases at all

Also the relevant contracts for non-compete is between employee and employer, Musk would have to sue every former employee individually, not Meta, and it would have to be where they were employed (which, bear in mind, doesnt necessarily mean where they lived, it’s where the company or subsidiary that pays them is for most of this) which is 99% Cali - and a large portion of the rest were EU, which has even stronger protections for workers

EDIT: I’ll note I’m reasonably well versed in this because I work in tech, for Cali company, while being located outside of Cali personally.
I also worked for a CA company from outside CA. This is a federal case. They don’t care about California law, especially when the core element of the cease and desist order IS NOT about poaching employees, but is completely about patent violations. If you read the cease and desist letter, it talks about former employees retaining documents that contain Twitter IP that Meta is using illegally (from their POV). The letter says nothing about alleging employment violations.
 
because almost every single app in ios and ipados uses the pull to refresh gesture. If Musk claims he owns it as part of the twitter deal, Apple won’t want to pay him for using the gesture.

It doesn't matter. Musk can enforce the patent against Zuck and claim "Apple and I settled, Apple continues to invest billions in Twitter ads and we'll let them use pull to refresh".

Just because you enforce a patent on one company doesn't mean you go for all companies. Plenty of small companies aren't worth the time because the legal fees would outweigh the net worth of these small companies.
 
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I wouldn’t have expected that many people to flock to another Meta social media service. Slow learners.
 
generally the agreements developers sign include a 2+ year time after employment has terminated where they cannot work on projects that compete with their own product.

While I dont know specifically about twitter , I would be surprised if there wasn't a no competing clause in there
This is probably the case in the US, but in other places? It is often illegal to have such "anti-competitor" clauses in work contracts.

I my field of work, television production, in many contracts years ago there was a clause that stated that you were not allowed to work for a competitor for at least a year in case you left the company. In court most judges wiped their *** with that clause. 😁
 
This is probably the case in the US, but in other places? It is often illegal to have such "anti-competitor" clauses in work contracts.

I my field of work, television production, in many contracts years ago there was a clause that stated that you were not allowed to work for a competitor for at least a year in case you left the company. In court most judges wiped their *** with that clause. 😁
I could see if you left a company as your choice but if you are terminated, all bets are off and one should be able to go work wherever their skills are needed.
 
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