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You're telling me there are people out there who cannot put together 140 characters to form a coherent sentence(s) without the need for an edit button? Can't people proof-read before hitting the tweet button?
So this is ONLY for THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL, and doesn't include Sunday or Monday games? Thursday has some games but they are less common than Sunday / Monday.
Yeah I feel your pain (to a degree) .
I live in North Austin and find it difficult to watch Live Football games with over the air antenna. Maybe it's apartment complex and being on the first floor but it's hard to get a good strong signal sometimes. FOX is really bad to watch Live, and I live 20 miles from downtown so you would think living next to the capital city of a state TV reception would be better. It's a total mess to get cable coverage for sports and I agree with you it's just not worth it. I actually haven't had any problems watching Olympics via over the air HDTV. If I don't care for the sport I just don't watch it but so far my experience has been very smooth for NBC games via HDTV antenna over the air broadcast.
I'm confused to how this Twitter thing works . Thursday night football is only a small part of the season. The vast majority of games is Sunday / Monday so this Twitter agreement won't cover that. I think it was foolish for Apple not to buy exclusivity rights to stream NFL, that is a massive market and I rather have NFL App done via Apple.
Yeah I feel your pain (to a degree) .
I live in North Austin and find it difficult to watch Live Football games with over the air antenna. Maybe it's apartment complex and being on the first floor but it's hard to get a good strong signal sometimes. FOX is really bad to watch Live, and I live 20 miles from downtown so you would think living next to the capital city of a state TV reception would be better. It's a total mess to get cable coverage for sports and I agree with you it's just not worth it. I actually haven't had any problems watching Olympics via over the air HDTV. If I don't care for the sport I just don't watch it but so far my experience has been very smooth for NBC games via HDTV antenna over the air broadcast.
I'm confused to how this Twitter thing works . Thursday night football is only a small part of the season. The vast majority of games is Sunday / Monday so this Twitter agreement won't cover that. I think it was foolish for Apple not to buy exclusivity rights to stream NFL, that is a massive market and I rather have NFL App done via Apple.
Sports fans will pay any amount to watch. Until more like you and myself say enough is enough not much will change. Sports is the glue and cash cow holding the media bundles together.
In a piece covering Twitter's successful effort to win live streaming rights for Thursday night National Football League games this season, The New York Times reports that Twitter is in discussions with Apple to launch a Twitter app for the Apple TV that would let Twitter's users watch the NFL games on Apple's set-top box.
Beyond the NFL, Twitter continues to strike deals for other live streaming content, and while the company's strategy for live streaming is not yet "fully formed," Twitter is considering how to bring that content users either in the main timeline or in the Moments tab of the current app for various platforms.
The NFL had solicited a number of companies, including Apple, to gauge interest in streaming rights for Thursday Night Football, but Apple ultimately declined to submit a bid.
Twitter's first Thursday Night Football live stream will take place on September 15 when the New York Jets visit the Buffalo Bills.
Article Link: Twitter Looking to Launch Apple TV App for NFL Live Streaming
Yawn. The only american football matches I've found interesting enough to be worth watching are the Lingerie Football League games. They are just as fake as the NFL, but at least it's not boring as paint drying.
Real athletes play Rugby Union, like the world champion All-Blacks as seen here performing the pre-game Haka against Wales : (Note that Wales have not won a game against New Zealand's All-Blacks in 63 years).
New Zealand rugby can field an international test series against any nation, and a global super rugby series of where 3 of 4 regional semi-finalists were NZ teams, including the super-rugby series winners & still have enough players to field a small group of second rate players for the Olympics Rugby Sevens without compromising the important contest of international rugby matches against the Aussies.
It is a testament to New Zealand rugby when the coach of the national team says that he doesn't care about olympic gold medal efforts, as that pales into comparison with back to back victory in the world cup and domination of other national teams in national tours, let alone when the NZ Waikato regional team humiliated Wales in June.
Perhaps I'm spoilt by the interesting and challenging game of Rugby Union, I know that it's not the same when the players wear so much armour they can have a heart attack just from running with the ball.
Yawn. The only american football matches I've found interesting enough to be worth watching are the Lingerie Football League games. They are just as fake as the NFL, but at least it's not boring as paint drying.
Real athletes play Rugby Union, like the world champion All-Blacks as seen here performing the pre-game Haka against Wales : (Note that Wales have not won a game against New Zealand's All-Blacks in 63 years).
New Zealand rugby can field an international test series against any nation, and a global super rugby series of where 3 of 4 regional semi-finalists were NZ teams, including the super-rugby series winners & still have enough players to field a small group of second rate players for the Olympics Rugby Sevens without compromising the important contest of international rugby matches against the Aussies.
It is a testament to New Zealand rugby when the coach of the national team says that he doesn't care about olympic gold medal efforts, as that pales into comparison with back to back victory in the world cup and domination of other national teams in national tours, let alone when the NZ Waikato regional team humiliated Wales in June.
Perhaps I'm spoilt by the interesting and challenging game of Rugby Union, I know that it's not the same when the players wear so much armour they can have a heart attack just from running with the ball.
I guess you like Rugby.
[doublepost=1471231972][/doublepost]What about AFL. Australian Football League. Gridiron football is not the only game-in-town?[/QUOTE]
AFL is only interesting to Aussies living in Straya. I'm not interested in it, and my cousin married an AFL player.
Almost every Kiwi in Straya would rather have the right to vote and social welfare than watch the AFL.
Except for Tony Abbot's wife originally from the depressed suburb of Wainuiomata, Lower Hutt but then :
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There is rugby union in Europe, even the retired All-blacks get paid fortunes each season they do in provincial teams across Europe. NFL won't sell in Europe, as it's about as exciting as paint drying and just about as news-worthy.
And those who prefer sports with acting can watch Soccer, the original football which have regional clubs with far larger TV rights than your tiddly little NFL as a whole.
NFL is no more a global sport than the baseball world series is, and frankly the rest of the world doesn't care either about isolated little american "sports" where there's nothing interesting to watch.
Europe, South America, Africa, Asia and Oceania have all got more interesting global sports to watch, we are not interested in the NFL. And if you think it's going to be watched beyond North America you're dreaming.
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Actually I'm finding the in game commentary quite boring. This mainly because NBC didn't bother to get two people to call many of the matches I'm watching. So there is no chatter between anyone. No explanation of any of the rules or commentary on the tactics (necessary for me when watching something like Team Handball). And not a great deal of excitement even by the commentator. But that is to be expected if it is just a solo person calling a game likely not even live but viewing the game over a video feed in a production studio.
A lot of us have never had cable (or had it and stopped) and that number is growing every year. Cable used for delivery of specific media content will go the way of the compact disc for music and DVD for video. OTT (over the top) delivery of content direct to consumers without a cable or sat middle man is the direction this is all headed. Pipe providers will just offer bandwidth to make that happen.
The majority of the good content out there can be streamed today at a reasonable price, except for sports. As this continues and more people cut the cord, I expect more people to not care as much about paying a high price for sports. Much like we here on the forums are in the minority when it comes to caring about what's going on with Apple and the industry in general and comparing specs and features, I'd argue that the majority of the audience tuning in for sports are casual watchers and the hardcore fans who would pay anything are in the minority. Eventually the system will break down and be forced to adapt. But the fanatics here are stronger and in decent number so it will take longer.
I was wondering why Twitter needed to talk with Apple and not just publish the app to the app store. But then it occurred to me, if you read between the lines, Twitter is talking to Apple probably because they want to make the app exclusive to the Apple TV. Apple has shown in the past they will pay for Apple TV exclusives (like HBO) and Twitter is no doubt looking for a similar deal. A new Apple TV in September along with a Apple TV only Twitter NFL app would get a lot of people to switch to the Apple TV.
The streaming would have to have worked in order to even see the problems you're talking about.
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I'm an iOS/tvOS developer, have one app on the TV right now, and have abandoned all other plans (for now at least) for the Apple TV. The device is such a ****-show it's nearly impossible to make any money selling apps on it. The TV App Store is the main problem. It's so bad, I can't even give you a link to my current app to look at and/or buy. It's resorted back to the 80's "Search for AOL keyword: whatever".
Not to threadjack, but if you're living 120 miles away from DTV sticks and you're using a Mohu Leaf, you're doing it wrong.
This is the new Apple. Orders from Tim Cook seem like, "Get the service released now!, Why? Because the marketing schedule says so, don't ask any silly questions about design or quality. If we make it, they will come."
Been there, done that. It lost a ton of money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Europe
I remember the original iteration with the US and Europe teams. Not so much the Europe only and primarily Germany ones.
Kurt Warner played in NFLE for Amsterdam.
You realize they play multiple games in London each year, and they are wildly popular right? You may not like NFL, and that's fine... But there is definitely a market for NFL across the pond.
But like pretty much all team games that are big in the USA, their impact outside North America is limited. Yes, people will watch it if it is on TV, but apart from occasional event games it has never taken off as a participatory sport in other markets such as Europe (which is a larger market than the USA & Canada in terms of audience).
There's a total of 3 games played in the UK. That's hardly a massive impact. Yes, they get the crowds based off the effect of marketing it as an event that happens only a few times a year. Every attempt to launch American Football has floundered because the market for a full-blown league is saturated already because of Football (soccer), Rugby Union, and (in the summer) Rugby League. The latter two games already cater to those wanting the full contact ball-carrying sport that NFL offers. Yes, you can hold a few event games here each season, but that's very different to having the week-to-week devotion that Fotbal, RU and RL already have...
I don't have any numbers, but I would think apple sells more products in the US than anywhere (maybe more in japan?), so it makes sense they would focus on the biggest sport in the US.
Population of the EU is circa 508 million, and for the vast majority of those, Football (as in soccer) will be the biggest sport. With respect to team sports, the US is quite insular. US team games generally don't have many (if any) international presence apart from the NFL taking less than a handful of games to the UK. The rest of the world (including such markets as China, Europe, Far East, etc) share other team sports that cross borders and markets in a much larger fashion (e.g. there's many more Manchester United fans outside the UK than there inside it!)
I recently subscribed to Sling. They have a lot of Olympic coverage with NBCSports. Along with the over the air NBC local channel I have, covered almost everything I wanted to watch
I hear they're in negotiations with Pied Piper to use their middle out technology.
You either didn't read my post or are really confused about how things work outside of major cities. I clearly said that I live 25 miles from the CBS tower, but 120 miles away from my favorite teams. I'm not sure what's confusing you, but cities with hundreds of thousands of people between the large metropolis areas that have NFL and MLB teams also have their own TV stations and local news, lol, and they broadcast games from teams in the region.
That's factually incorrect.
-London is selling out 3 games, so what makes it inconceivable it couldn't sell out 8?
-The London Monarchs of the WLAF/NFLE was one of the best and most watched teams, and its only peer was Barcelona.
-"Every attempt to launch" hasn't included actual NFL teams. So despite the negativity, it's just proof that the crowds in London understand the difference between real NFL and cast-offs in the summer.
-Rugby and NFL are vastly different games, and to put them together is why you miss the point. Rugby is a non-stop backpassing game where endurance is key. NFL gridiron is stop-play, and emphasises athletic ability over endurance, strategic planning and coaching, as well as heavy contact. Rugby is a fantastic but entirely different format, and doesn't substitute.
-Tottenham's new stadium is designed to be converted to NFL play, with much better sightlines.
-Games in London offer a 10am USET timeslot the NFL is very interested in.
Yes, no doubt that futbol will remain king in Europe. However, the NFL schedule lends itself to being viable in Europe with no real downside. It's shorter from NY to London than NY to Seattle... so why not?
[doublepost=1471416200][/doublepost]Oh, and don't get me started on US sports not making a marketing impact overseas... I live in the South Pacific, and I commonly see NCAA gear, along with NBA, NFL, and the odd Yankees hat. In reality, I see more US team gear than teams native to Oz/NZ. So no... you don't get a pass. It may not be more impactful than local European leagues, but to say it doesn't hold much influence is way off the mark.