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Population of the EU is circa 508 million, and for the vast majority of those, Football (as in soccer) will be the biggest sport. With respect to team sports, the US is quite insular. US team games generally don't have many (if any) international presence apart from the NFL taking less than a handful of games to the UK. The rest of the world (including such markets as China, Europe, Far East, etc) share other team sports that cross borders and markets in a much larger fashion (e.g. there's many more Manchester United fans outside the UK than there inside it!)

that still has nothing to do with my question and why apple is probably making deals with the NFL over football. If they mostly sell to people in the US, that is going to be their audience. If pretty much all ATV sales are in the US, why would they push for something the US cares less about?
 
You either didn't read my post or are really confused about how things work outside of major cities. I clearly said that I live 25 miles from the CBS tower, but 120 miles away from my favorite teams. I'm not sure what's confusing you, but cities with hundreds of thousands of people between the large metropolis areas that have NFL and MLB teams also have their own TV stations and local news, lol, and they broadcast games from teams in the region.
I did indeed miss the part about your living 25 miles from your CBS stick. I still stand behind my judgment that the Mohu Leaf is a poor choice of antenna.

I live appx 15 miles SSE from the collective broadcast towers of Mpls St Paul on the south bank of the Mississippi River (DMA 14 since you bring up market size) and found that omni antennas do not work well with the varied topography here. I instead got a directional antenna (RCA ANT751) which serves my purpose much better. Omnis like the Leaf are also crap for reception of high VHF channels because of the wavelength, so if your CBS is from 7-13 that is probably part of the problem as well.
 
I did indeed miss the part about your living 25 miles from your CBS stick. I still stand behind my judgment that the Mohu Leaf is a poor choice of antenna.

I live appx 15 miles SSE from the collective broadcast towers of Mpls St Paul on the south bank of the Mississippi River (DMA 14 since you bring up market size) and found that omni antennas do not work well with the varied topography here. I instead got a directional antenna (RCA ANT751) which serves my purpose much better. Omnis like the Leaf are also crap for reception of high VHF channels because of the wavelength, so if your CBS is from 7-13 that is probably part of the problem as well.
It's 13. So Mohu's marketing materials are flat out lying? Because that's half the advertised range. That really irritates me. The terrain here in central Missouri isn't too bad, and my house sits a little higher with a nice view of a shallow valley to the south which is roughly the direction of the tower in Jefferson City. Columbia, MO and Jefferson City, MO (the capital) are roughly the same size so CBS and I think a couple other channels are located down there, but the combined metro statistical areas for both cities are about 400,000, so it's a decent size for a smaller market. So the tower distances are split weird. It just drives me crazy that my cable company wants to charge $30/mo just for local channels. I'll have to look into that antenna you posted, thanks for that!
 
That's factually incorrect.

-London is selling out 3 games, so what makes it inconceivable it couldn't sell out 8?
-The London Monarchs of the WLAF/NFLE was one of the best and most watched teams, and its only peer was Barcelona.
-"Every attempt to launch" hasn't included actual NFL teams. So despite the negativity, it's just proof that the crowds in London understand the difference between real NFL and cast-offs in the summer.
-Rugby and NFL are vastly different games, and to put them together is why you miss the point. Rugby is a non-stop backpassing game where endurance is key. NFL gridiron is stop-play, and emphasises athletic ability over endurance, strategic planning and coaching, as well as heavy contact. Rugby is a fantastic but entirely different format, and doesn't substitute.
-Tottenham's new stadium is designed to be converted to NFL play, with much better sightlines.
-Games in London offer a 10am USET timeslot the NFL is very interested in.

Yes, no doubt that futbol will remain king in Europe. However, the NFL schedule lends itself to being viable in Europe with no real downside. It's shorter from NY to London than NY to Seattle... so why not?
[doublepost=1471416200][/doublepost]Oh, and don't get me started on US sports not making a marketing impact overseas... I live in the South Pacific, and I commonly see NCAA gear, along with NBA, NFL, and the odd Yankees hat. In reality, I see more US team gear than teams native to Oz/NZ. So no... you don't get a pass. It may not be more impactful than local European leagues, but to say it doesn't hold much influence is way off the mark.

Yes, I think everyone who has seen both Rugby Union and NFL are well aware of the gridiron players being a boring game made for commercials every minute.
Also, as a dual citizen of NZ and AUS, I find that it's usually down to the pathetic antics of the Wallabies losing constantly to the All-Blacks that you see more Aussies wearing NFL gear. Heck, the Aussies felt they had to bug the All-Blacks hotel team room just to try win this year's series and got caught before tonight's match.
 
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That works great for you, what about everyone else? Or do we all have to come over to your house to watch the game?
Meh sure free beers too. LOL
Anyone who really wants to watch a NFL game, can do so by many means.

Now, If the NFL is looking to incorporate streaming and social media,
it's simply not that big of a deal. Most leagues have a cross platform
streaming app for both mobile and desktop devices.
I cannot see a decline in the need for brand continuity importance or viewer experience.
Watching NFL via Twitter is akin to the AOL days when people you thought they were
on the web. LOL Sure some will like it but I don't see it being an investment
worthy the expense. On the other hand, embedding a block of twitter code to your sight
takes secs. An API's insert could be out with the next app update.

So, the desire for streaming on Twitter isn't because there's an audience
their missing out on. NFL fans know how and where to watch games. it's basically because they can.
I think it's a lateral move at best with whatever cost it takes to do and maintain.

An NFL steaming App with twitter social features will always offer a far stronger brand continuity.
NFL should keep using twitter sure, but let's not turn Twitter into AOL.
 
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