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U.S. Attorney General Says iPhone Unlock Request Won't Lead to Widespread Privacy Breaches

Lynch's defense lies in Cook's alleged misrepresentation of what the FBI wants the company to do in regards to Farook's iPhone. In the interview, she claims that they are "not asking for a backdoor,"

We will try to get into the phone, we will extract the evidence under the court order that we have gotten that's very narrow, it's very focused."

a "modest" request that would never lead to a "master key" that could unlock all iPhones against the will of their owners

Here is a fact. Once the tool exists to access this one phone it can and will be the subject of hundreds of other requests for other phones in the possession of Federal, State and County police forces.

Here is another fact. They are not asking for data or objects. They seek to conscript Apple to perform labor. They are asking Apple to hack, perform a felony at the direction of the FBI and DoJ. That is conspiracy to commit by the authorities themselves. They seek Apple to put its secure key in this illegal app to cause it to authorize on this and later any other phone exposed to this tool.

This is scary police state stuff.

cite:
http://www.hackerlaw.org/?page_id=55

http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=5645
 
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Absolutely false. There are plenty of reasons to oppose what the FBI wants here, but the "tool" being turned over to defense attorneys is not one of them.

Absolutely true!... Read this: http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=5645

This scenario may or may not play out in this specific case, but it *will* play out - simply because this case will not be as isolated as the AG, DOJ and FBI want you to believe it will be.
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Here are the lies:

Ouch, that yelling hurt my eyes!... ;-)
 
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Dear AG: What kind of dipstick Attorney are you? :rolleyes:

The bad thing is, it affects ALL iPhone users in the world, if it was USA only most outside of the US wouldn't care.

Gee thanks....

She's a good actress, I have to give her that credit.

Agreed.


Aww, she thinks she knows tech.
Plot twist: she doesn't.

Isn't it cute tho how she thinks she does:rolleyes:


Not this rubbish again. They keep missing the point that in order to disable the password erase function, Apple will have to create software that essentially acts as a backdoor due to the level of security on their phones. They can't just disable it on one specific phone, because the same software could be applicable on any iPhone.

It's like asking somebody to create a fob that unlocks only one specific car without any previous keys or information to go on -- but in engineering that, it can unlock any car of the same model, regardless of what its usage would be.

They don't get it. They are so clueless, ignorant, and hellbent


When a United States Attorney General is so clueless, what hope is there for mankind?

Hope for mankind yes...
Hope for our country not so much.... Crap like this is just gonna continue the various declines the U.S. Is on:confused:
 
This is from the same administration that said if you like your insurance plan and doctor(s) you could keep them...

Nothing but vocal emissions from an orifice not on their cranium....

I kept mine. And pay WAY less for increased benefits. And can no longer be disqualified due to injuries from a past assault.
 
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The "real owner" should have had MDM enabled. Can't blame Apple for their own mistake.

If you and I as real owners would go to Apple and ask if they could get into our phones as it has a life saving remedy for cancer treatment, would they do it?
 
I almost take what she said for real (yeah right).. then I remembered shes on a late night TV program. Seriously? Go on the news and discuss this if it's so important. Hitting up late night is just drumming up press because they'll use it as fodder. This whole "issue" has been way overblown, it's a witch hunt at this point.

LOL, please! Late night TV and news networks are one in the same. Do you actually believe what is reported to you on a news network is the truth and factual! Muahahaha
 
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If you and I as real owners would go to Apple and ask if they could get into our phones as it has a life saving remedy for cancer treatment, would they do it?

It's your own responsibility as a personal owner to backup your data or remember your password if you choose to use it. If I had the life saving remedy for cancer treatment I sure wouldn't have my phone be the only place I store it nor would I forget my passcode.

I learned my lesson a few years ago when I got permanently locked out of my iCloud account and there was nothing Apple could do to unlock it. Sure it sucks, but I got over it, created a new one and took steps to make sure it doesn't happen again.

If you are a business owner it is your responsibility to enable/use MDM if you want full control of the device you let your employees use.

Apple offers both backup and MDM services so that this sort of thing doesn't happen. As the owner of device it is your choice to use them or not. Apple shouldn't be punished for what the owner of a device chooses to use or not use. to use them or not. Apple shouldn't be punished for what the owner of a device chooses to use or not use.
 
Anything that records video or audio, like apps in an iphone, can violate privacy.

So do the cameras in Apple's own offices.

But those are all okay. Only when librul gubmit does it - oh, that's bad, even despite evidence in a case that is a little more extreme than a basket weaving contest.
 
Absolutely false. There are plenty of reasons to oppose what the FBI wants here, but the "tool" being turned over to defense attorneys is not one of them.

On a broader note: do we really need a new front page story on this every time a new person weighs in? The positions and arguments are pretty clear and haven't changed. It doesn't really matter that it's now the AG saying it.

Oye Vey!

Have you noticed the NSA and CIA have kept very quiet about this case? Unlike the FBI, they are not worried about evidence, only intelligence. So they don't have to worry about revealing WHERE AND HOW evidence was obtained. The FBI and all state/law enforcement does. How did you think we found out about Stingrays? It was after defendants got wise and start asking how evidence was obtained against them. And because the method was to be kept secret, some cases had to be plea bargained out.

If Apple does make a tool for the FBI. Any case they use it in will have to be logged as evidence and turned over during discovery. They will not be able to keep it secret like the NSA and CIA can.
 
It's your own responsibility as a personal owner to backup your data or remember your password if you choose to use it. If I had the life saving remedy for cancer treatment I sure wouldn't have my phone be the only place I store it nor would I forget my passcode.

With market leaders, like Apple, maneuvering toward "cloud storage", customers lose choice and ability because Apple prefers to coddle and for a low monthly fee.

I learned my lesson a few years ago when I got permanently locked out of my iCloud account and there was nothing Apple could do to unlock it. Sure it sucks, but I got over it, created a new one and took steps to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Didn't know you were a terrorist or mass shooter. Oh well.

If you are a business owner it is your responsibility to enable/use MDM if you want full control of the device you let your employees use.

Apple offers both backup and MDM services so that this sort of thing doesn't happen. As the owner of device it is your choice to use them or not. Apple shouldn't be punished for what the owner of a device chooses to use or not use. to use them or not. Apple shouldn't be punished for what the owner of a device chooses to use or not use.

For now, back when smartphone companies introduced plans where you buy the phone outright without being locked into a contract (though not all phone providers' networks are compatible with said phone), people already and rightly fathomed that the choice of contract/subsidized phones would vanish. Doesn't take Einstein to figure out that freedom from choice is what people want, or are told to prefer.
 
Liar, what does she know?!? They apparently don't know enough or they'd hack the iPhone themselves!
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The "real owner" should have had MDM enabled. Can't blame Apple for their own mistake.
I personally managed an MDM with 7,000 iOS devices. YEa, it is the companies bad for being lazy ignorant fools for not protecting their employee issued properly. It is not that hard to figure out and Apple provides a free MDM which is good for a business. What I do requires something like JAMF or AirWatch. I have 7,000 devices 160+ Apple ID/VPP accounts and 160 different budgets to contend with. I am one person, yes this is CRAZY too much for just me, but if I can do this with 7,000 devices so can a business with their measly under a 1,000 devices.
 
With market leaders, like Apple, maneuvering toward "cloud storage", customers lose choice and ability because Apple prefers to coddle and for a low monthly fee.

You can always back up via iTunes on your computer. You don't have to use "cloud storage" they created a choice when they added iCloud backup. Previously there was no choice. It was iTunes backup or bust.

I choose to not use iCloud backup partly because of the lack of space provided but mostly because iTunes backups can be encrypted and are more secure.

Didn't know you were a terrorist or mass shooter. Oh well.

Never said that I was. Don't appreciate being called one either. Just because someone gets locked out of their account or desires privacy doesn't make them a terrorist despite what the government would want you to believe.
 
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Anything that records video or audio, like apps in an iphone, can violate privacy.

So do the cameras in Apple's own offices.

But those are all okay. Only when librul gubmit does it - oh, that's bad, even despite evidence in a case that is a little more extreme than a basket weaving contest.

Stop trying to change the submit. The FUD you're trying to spread has nothing to do with this case.
 
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It's your own responsibility as a personal owner to backup your data or remember your password if you choose to use it. If I had the life saving remedy for cancer treatment I sure wouldn't have my phone be the only place I store it nor would I forget my passcode.

I learned my lesson a few years ago when I got permanently locked out of my iCloud account and there was nothing Apple could do to unlock it. Sure it sucks, but I got over it, created a new one and took steps to make sure it doesn't happen again.

If you are a business owner it is your responsibility to enable/use MDM if you want full control of the device you let your employees use.

Apple offers both backup and MDM services so that this sort of thing doesn't happen. As the owner of device it is your choice to use them or not. Apple shouldn't be punished for what the owner of a device chooses to use or not use. to use them or not. Apple shouldn't be punished for what the owner of a device chooses to use or not use.

I love this post. I was once locked out of my appleid account and it was terrifying. Yes, it was my fault I was locked out but there was also bug on Apple's end. Still, my fault for locking myself out. Fortunately it was resolved on Apple's end but only because I knew my password. If I had forgotten my password it's not Apple's fault I didn't create a recovery key.
 
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What AG has ever been on a comedy show? Just the one in Obama's administration during a term that's seen Obama appearing on the View and on Ellen?
 
I love this post. I was once locked out of my appleid account and it was terrifying. Yes, it was my fault I was locked out but there was also bug on Apple's end. Still, my fault for locking myself out. Fortunately it was resolved on Apple's end but only because I knew my password. If I had forgotten my password it's not Apple's fault I didn't create a recovery key.

It was a bug that locked me out too. I knew my password and knew I was entering it correctly. The bug kept telling me it was incorrect and then locked my account and required the password to be reset. Unfortunately there were security questions that I never remembered setting so I didn't have the answers to unlock the account. I fixed this issue on my new account by and set up recovery key.
Im just glad the only thing I lost was the Apple ID/email addresses I had set up. I had offline copies of my contacts/calendars/emails/documents etc so it didn't take much to transfer them over to a new account.
 
Just like "We have to pass this legislation to know what's in it." That is our government for you. They will say whatever they think will get them the goodies. Period. DOJ is no different. I wish they were, but they are not.
 
The FBI should really be going after the County govt that owned the device. They basically were giving out govt issued phones without any degree of control over them. To me, this makes them complicit in regards to any illegal business that occurs on them. A rule I live by is that anything done on a company phone is visible to the company. Apparently not for this ****** County govt.
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Is this the same AG who feels the private server with classified information on it, marked or not, is just fine? This is the most politically motivated AG in my lifetime. I trust nothing that comes out of her mouth and soon an election will fix that bad noise.

I just love this comment. So true.
 
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Apparently not for this ****** County govt.
The City of San Bernardino is bankrupt. The area had the largest freeway upgrade from the stimulus of any in the state. SB County is the geographically largest in the nation and in the past 5 years has hired hundreds of folks, equipped them with cars, and instructed them to go to every landowner in the county and look for trouble they can fine them on. One example a friend of mine had a piece of land in a remote part of the county and was fined because someone else dumped stuff on it between visits. No exception, no warning, no notice they were suddenly enforcing something they had not during the prior 40 years. So they are both stupid and desperate.

The folks on this site are "high information voters" as regards tech issues but also the specifics of this case. Knowing what you know, knowing the head of the FBI, the DoJ and the Executive branch is directly lying to you to gain widespread information access, using terrorism as the story line, but intending to apply it 99.5% to traditional crime, we seem to have arrived at a version of 1984 now.
 
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