So I take it you sit idly at home and believe in absolutely nothing then right?
After all, you can't prove anything 100% so nothing should matter right?
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After all, you can't prove anything 100% so nothing should matter right?
Like the loony left really cares
Congress plans on spending 600 million on 8 private jets for members of congress and federal officials. congressional travel perks
Congress had previously down-talked private corporations for too much "jet travel".
On top of that, Pelosi's predecessors jet (a republican), was not big enough for her. She has a major problem with needing to stop for fuel, so she demanded a larger, 50 passenger jet.
http://newsbusters.org/node/10690
Reported by CBS.
They DO NOT CARE about the environment, because the environment is FINE. They are creating a crisis to win votes. Everybody knows that everybody loves a war. Its the dem's favorite strategy.
War on poverty.
War on education.
War on global warming.
Congress plans on spending 600 million on 8 private jets for members of congress and federal officials. congressional travel perks
Congress had previously down-talked private corporations for too much "jet travel".
On top of that, Pelosi's predecessors jet (a republican), was not big enough for her. She has a major problem with needing to stop for fuel, so she demanded a larger, 50 passenger jet.
http://newsbusters.org/node/10690
Reported by CBS.
They DO NOT CARE about the environment, because the environment is FINE. They are creating a crisis to win votes. Everybody knows that everybody loves a war. Its the dem's favorite strategy.
War on poverty.
War on education.
War on global warming.
Yes, there are people suffering from severe cranial-rectal inversion who do indeed deny cycles of warmer/cooler have existed. There are also those who try to equate changes in 100 years to changes in thousands of years as both being within "normal" cycles, therefore no action need be taken.
Perhaps I'm jaded. I have seen, in my lifetime, too many changes, directly caused by human activity, which have affected the environment, both small and large scale. It's easy to see that we have the ability to change the environment, we've already done it many times.
If we have the intelligence we pretend, we will take care of this planet, as it is the only place we have to sustain us. If we do not do so with that intelligence, we are nothing more than a plague of locusts, destroying that which we live on.
It's far more important than some computer company telling a businessmen's clubhouse they don't want to play together anymore.
I don't think it's a question of whether global warming/climate change is a myth or not. I think it's a question of the ridiculous amounts of money that our governments are spending, when they could be spending it on things and people that need it far more. Like improving conditions in 3rd world countries, for instance? People are starving and poverty-stricken, and our world leaders are more focused on hotter days and dying plants and animals?
So you only take actions to prevent something until after the fact because only then would it be 100% provable
So you only take actions to prevent something until after the fact because only then would it be 100% provable
I think thats known as the "American Way". This country has no foresight and its truly pathetic.
As for those claiming climate change to be a hoax, what a MASSIVE conspiracy eh? Seems like its the only thing the entire world (besides us of course) agrees on....
You are incorrect, as 5 minutes of searching will show you. But, you must first be willing to accept what you find.
It has been theorized, with evidence and experimental data to back it up, many times over. The theory has not been disproven. That's as close to "verified" as you are going to get.
But I will ask again. Please name the organization, the school/business/church/alien life form/whatever, to which you appeal. Whose opinion do you trust?
okay mr philosophy, relax. thought you got the point. anyways, the point was there is no evidence for global warming but the public masses believes there is due to significant liberal media emphasis stating so. although i am impressed with those on this thread who have already done their research into the matter.
and a short answer to your question is that i do believe in absolute (and not relative) truth.
Actually, he would appear to understand the scientific method better than you. Your statement is incorrect. Given the right set of circumstances, math can be used to prove something with 100% accuracy. Perhaps you should dust off an old physics text and look that one up.
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Macarena
Most of the world thought that the "Macarena" was a cool song, too
As soon as I notice the world getting actually more hot, I will care. Until then, I will continue to re-use my water-bottles, ride my bike as much as possible, buy used stuff rather than new, and try my hardest to keep our "republic" government the hell out of this nonsense.
Its pretty easy...
Most of the world thought that the "Macarena" was a cool song, too
As soon as I notice the world getting actually more hot, I will care. Until then, I will continue to re-use my water-bottles, ride my bike as much as possible, buy used stuff rather than new, and try my hardest to keep our "republic" government the hell out of this nonsense.
Its pretty easy...
You lose sight of where the money is being spent on. Its pretty easy to overlook all the costs associated with health care due to pollution for instance because people don't see the direct link.
Ah, yes, the Heritage Foundation. Long known as a leader in scientific education. Thank you for the direct answer to the question.
what is interesting about the internet is that "what one searches for, one will find"
(and it is really difficult to take serious statements from someone who uses an avatar picture of a person's butt painted like a pumpkin, however cute you may find it but i am trying
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Sometimes this forum makes me laugh
You say that as if the rest of the internet (Digg, Reddit, etc.) doesn't make you laugh (this forum sometimes makes me laugh too). There are plenty of armchair economists/environmentalists on every site, including this one.I love how suddenly everyone becomes an expert on the topic.
Your argument is that one is guilty until proven innocent? Really? And, by the way, pictures of melting glaciers and statements of "fact" by marginal scientists with agendas hardly constitute "evidence and experimental data". You won't find the type of proof you describe because it does not exist, at least not in the sense that most people have been duped into believing. Nature, not man, is warming the planet and there are those in the scientific community who believe the cycle is already starting to reverse itself.
Happy Hunting....
what is interesting about the internet is that "what one searches for, one will find"
(and it is really difficult to take serious statements from someone who uses an avatar picture of a person's butt painted like a pumpkin, however cute you may find it but i am trying
The avatar changes. Has nothing to do with the topic.
And thanks for trying to find it cute. Disturbing, but thanks just the same.
totally agree - we should take care of the environment we were blessed with and reduce our individual impact.
it's this "belief" that we need to spend billions to fix something that isn't broke that is really troublesome...
There are those that want to penalize small businesses and American jobs by unproven theories led, in part, by a former Tennessee Congressman too.
We know right now that mass air travel is directly affecting the environment, often in ways detrimental to human existence. Funny thing though... I don't see the eco lobby or the global warming zealots at airports protesting. Know what they do protest? Small businesses! Yes we can change the environment and we need to do so. But penalizing American small business is not the way to do it. The eco lobby and the global warming zealots need to get the world onboard (hint: China) with what they are demanding from American small businesses!
Thus, why is Apple throwing a fit about the U.S. Chamber of Commerce but presumably adding to emissions in China and seemingly accepting China emissions?
If the "clubhouse" is so offensive why don't we see Apple packing its bags at Cupertino? They seem to want U.S. business residency yet the ability to farm out its manufacturing and emissions to China. Who's actually playing together here?
You've got to be joking.
You think there is a WORLDWIDE massive conspiracy that has the vast majority of scientists sharing the same opinion?
I would
I would do that pumpkin, But that's just me?
"There are plenty of armchair economists/environmentalists on every site, including this one."
There are also plenty of people on this forum, I'm sure, that have a educated (somewhat, at least) opinion on the topic.
BTW, I think both parties are terrible... I am hardly partisan, unless you count leaning towards the highest possible standard of liberty in the world a biased opinion?
"You think there is a WORLDWIDE massive conspiracy that has the vast majority of scientists sharing the same opinion? "
Hardly. I am actually concerned about a massive non-conspiracy that many seem to ignore, with many global leaders seizing more and more power, and slowly drifting towards a one-world -government.
More so, when the United States of America starts becoming more concerned with what other nations are doing than with protecting our own liberties.
But hey, "You cant prove anything 100%"...
I would do that pumpkin, But that's just me?
"There are plenty of armchair economists/environmentalists on every site, including this one."
There are also plenty of people on this forum, I'm sure, that have a educated (somewhat, at least) opinion on the topic.
BTW, I think both parties are terrible... I am hardly partisan, unless you count leaning towards the highest possible standard of liberty in the world a biased opinion?
"You think there is a WORLDWIDE massive conspiracy that has the vast majority of scientists sharing the same opinion? "
Hardly. I am actually concerned about a massive non-conspiracy that many seem to ignore, with many global leaders seizing more and more power, and slowly drifting towards a one-world -government.
More so, when the United States of America starts becoming more concerned with what other nations are doing than with protecting our own liberties.
But hey, "You cant prove anything 100%"...
no conspiracy. but as one who has done research i can say that the same data when viewed using different "lenses of interpretation" will produce significantly distinct (and different) results. and where do you get that a "vast majority of scientists" share the same opinion?
Tell me, what liberties of yours are being trampled when America actually becomes a world player rather than world bully?
Have you ever heard of something called the precautionary principle?
The precautionary principle is a moral and political principle which states that if an action or policy might cause severe or irreversible harm to the public or to the environment, in the absence of a scientific consensus that harm would not ensue, the burden of proof falls on those who would advocate taking the action.
CO2 levels in the atmosphere have been consistently rising according to the Mauna Loa Observatory. We've cut down approximately half of our forests in the world, a major Carbon sink. Are we really sure we're not causing harm? Is this something that we can afford to mess with, with no scientific proof that it won't cause damage?
Population, deforesting, biodiversity, sustainability, overharvesting/grazing, climate change, pollution, soil condition, water, etc... The future don't look so bright, and because of people like you, there's a good chance it won't get any brighter.