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Would be great if this was the beginning of a crackdown on espionage and illegal activity by the Chinese government against US corporations. It’s a travesty that a government with such vast resources is attacking American businesses with no consequences.

I take it you are not being sarcastic. Businesses want to do business in China because it's so big. When will they learn? They end up with stolen I.P. and usually end up losing big money on the venture.
 
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not completely related to this dispute...but

Chinese manufacturing has to be stopped. it is filling universe with unnecessary cheap junk...
 
Canada has been caught up in this since we arrested Meng Wanzhou, and we will be obligated to extradite her now. It has made the Trudeau government look like a pawn for the US and strained our relations with China.

These treaties work both ways.

Trying to jail the CFO of a company because other Huawei employees allegedly tried to steal a robot is laughable.

Isn't cutting the head of a criminal enterprise the goal of law enforcement? No point getting the tree-level dealers, when the kingpins get away, to continue business as usual.

Doing business with China is a long term bad move.

They will sell a fantastic looking Apple clone - iPhone, MacBook, etc., - and all will be forgiven by those outraged here to buy them at 30-50% off.:rolleyes:

Or a powerful politician's son will need his SouthEast Asian business to remain viable, and the USA will rush in to save 500,000 Chinese jobs - like it happened with ZTE, Drumpf and Ivanka; an axis of some kind!:mad:

Or like with Russia, the sanctions will be lifted at the whim of Drumpf due to conflicting interests.

Both ZTE and Huawei products are available for sale in the USA today, sleek looking devices.
 
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I doubt that will happen given Canada doesn't have technology sanctions with Iran. It may violate U.S. law, but the extradition treaty requires Canada to have a similar law, which Canada doesn't.

Trying to jail the CFO of a company because other Huawei employees allegedly tried to steal a robot is laughable.
Did you conveniently miss the "Huawei is said to have misled a global bank and U.S. authorities about its relationship with subsidiaries Skycom and Huawei Device USA to conduct business in Iran despite sanctions, conducting millions of dollars in business. Huawei is accused of lying to the government, destroying documents, and attempting to move key Huawei employees back to China to impede the investigation" part?
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Canada has been caught up in this since we arrested Meng Wanzhou, and we will be obligated to extradite her now. It has made the Trudeau government look like a pawn for the US and strained our relations with China.
You mean it makes the Trudeau government look like they're refusing to be a pawn for China. China has been trying to economically exploit, manipulate, and steal technology from Canada for a while, and it's nice to see Trudeau finally address the problem. He even blocked a shady Chinese takeover of a Canadian company semi-recently on national security grounds.
 
Canada has been caught up in this since we arrested Meng Wanzhou, and we will be obligated to extradite her now. It has made the Trudeau government look like a pawn for the US and strained our relations with China.

Yes, that is how mutual extradition treaties work. Canada balks at extraditing some USA criminals who flee to Canada for specific reasons, some of them humanitarian conditions.
 
I wonder if this is the “government owned company” that’s refusing to give docs over in the Mueller investigation.
Nah. The original theory was ZTE, but it looks more like a financial institution from either Russia or Qatar. Both Russia and Qatar have state owned financial institutions who also hold US property and interests.
 
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Canada has been caught up in this since we arrested Meng Wanzhou, and we will be obligated to extradite her now. It has made the Trudeau government look like a pawn for the US and strained our relations with China.
God forbid you'd appear to be on the side of the law abiding United States rather than bowing to these criminals. Wow.
 
Did you conveniently miss the "Huawei is said to have misled a global bank and U.S. authorities about its relationship with subsidiaries Skycom and Huawei Device USA to conduct business in Iran despite sanctions, conducting millions of dollars in business. Huawei is accused of lying to the government, destroying documents, and attempting to move key Huawei employees back to China to impede the investigation" part?
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You mean it makes the Trudeau government look like they're refusing to be a pawn for China. China has been trying to economically exploit, manipulate, and steal technology from Canada for a while, and it's nice to see Trudeau finally address the problem. He even blocked a shady Chinese takeover of a Canadian company semi-recently on national security grounds.

Canada is looking more and more like the 258th province of China anyways. The Chinese have pretty much taken over Canada, from restaurants to every other business.
 
God forbid you'd appear to be on the side of the law abiding United States rather than bowing to these criminals. Wow.

God forbid anyone should be judged innocent until proven guilty. Wow. And since when is the US "law abiding"? Do you know the horrible history of your country? Double Wow.
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Yes, that is how mutual extradition treaties work. Canada balks at extraditing some USA criminals who flee to Canada for specific reasons, some of them humanitarian conditions.


How do you know she is a "criminal"? And she didn't "flee" to Canada, she owns property in Vancouver.
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You mean it makes the Trudeau government look like they're refusing to be a pawn for China. China has been trying to economically exploit, manipulate, and steal technology from Canada for a while, and it's nice to see Trudeau finally address the problem. He even blocked a shady Chinese takeover of a Canadian company semi-recently on national security grounds.

Source for China trying to steal technology from Canada?
 
God forbid anyone should be judged innocent until proven guilty. Wow. And since when is the US "law abiding"? Do you know the horrible history of your country? Double Wow.

Very entertaining post, but the part I almost cry by laughter, was, when I read in your profile that you are from the USA.

Do you have any idea what your government does to other countries all round the world, what your companies do to other companies all around the world?

Like a stone complaining about a rock

You’re really going to complain about what the US has done when the other country in question here is the country that brought the world the Cultural Revolution, the Great Leap Forward, Tiananmen Square, and is presently estimated to have anywhere from 1 to 3 million people in what are effectively concentration camps? Seriously? Seriously?!

People need to get a grip. The US isn’t innocent but people are treating China like its some benign little entity being picked on by the big bad USA. This is the second largest economy in the world we’re talking about here that has been documented to be responsible for the death of at least 100 million of its own people over the last century.
 
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The average Chinese citizen doesn’t even know what the rest of the world knows because the government blocks information from coming in. State run media, state run comapnies. Part of the very serious allegations is international bank fraud.
 
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And the Wall St. gangsters who knowingly destroyed the global economy for personal profit? Oh yeah, they got a bailout.

That would be called "whataboutism", "two wrongs don't make a right", and "one thing has nothing to do with the other".
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A rising tide lifts all boats.

Maybe you could explain how Communist Chinese banksters ripping off US companies is somehow good for those US companies.
 
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