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What about the small sweat shops for repair business in China and all across the world? Sounds like a controlled substance in the U.S.

Apple should just focus on making the devices more complicated to even repair them. Same concept can be applied to Apple products.

For example: You don’t see a Ferrari or Lamborghini at a small repair shop. They always end up in a certified dealership. Same goes with Tesla’s vehicle.
you clearly never own a ferrari or lambo, there are TONS of independent repair shops that provides the same service with genuine parts and have the proper diagnostic tools, the only except being mclaren.
 
Possibly the older models not the new ones. You definitely don't see Tesla's in a specialized repair shops.
nope newer ones too, my buddy has a aventador SVJ, his mechanic used to be a certified tech at the lamborghini dealership. this is the case with alot of independent repair shops, most of the folks working there used to be certified tech at their respective previous dealerships.
 
Finally!

When I think back to the days when I could change the battery in my device it makes me want to cry from nostalgia!
 
We only need small improvements to correct Apple's self centered, 1990's Microsoft emulating, condescending, nanny motivations; which are replaceable batteries; memory, and SSDs. These items wear out and need to be smart user replaceable.

Sure there are some users that should never even contemplate replacements, but it is not Apple's responsibility to protect them from themselves. At least not in a free and open society.
Agreed. Unfortunately it’s not really about protecting customers from themselves. It’s about profit pure and simple. If they make things too expensive to repair or upgrade after the purchase, you’re forced to buy a new one or load up with overpriced add ons at the outset. I remember the days of buying a Mac with the minimum RAM and adding my own later for 1/2 the price of what Apple charges for the same RAM. Or replacing a dead HD.
 
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If it isn't unlawful right now than there is a law missing. This must be enacted as soon as possible.
There are already existing laws that the bar anti-competitive trade practices and restraint of trade. They need to be enforced to protect qualified repair shops and an individual's right to repair.
 
So Apple and others can make the system on a chip socketed. And you can replace the entire system on a chip to repair it. We aren’t going back to beige boxes now. People want tablets and smartphones and will have to deal with those being hard to repair. We have near waterproof phones, so they’ll never be a user replaceable battery.
I remember the days of owning a Timex G-Shock watch. Trying to replace the battery and maintain the same level of waterproofness was an expensive proposition and could not practically be done by a normal person. In most cases it was just easier and cheaper to just buy a new one when the battery died.
 
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Too many people here are longing for a past that no longer exists. My dad, as a youth, had a business replacing the vacuum tubes and then reselling old TVs. Those day are gone.
And like many on here, I remember the days of being able to easily replace parts on a Mac. The technology advances has decreased the number of overall components in a computing devices. Due to the increased portability of phones, tablets, and laptops, Apple made the decision to glue components in order to decrease the wear and tear of the connectors; which increases the durability and longevity but decreases the repairability.
And I am in favor of right-to-repair. And I am also in favor of the owner losing warranty protection if one decides to go that direction.
 
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Mr. FTC:

I'm for right to repair as long the laws apply equally to every manufacturer for products in the US that can potentially require servicing, including devices such as: phones (and other small electronic devices including hearing aids), TVs, refrigerators, washing machines, diswashers, etc. Don't single out Apple and call it a day.
 
Mr. FTC:

I'm for right to repair as long the laws apply equally to every manufacturer for products in the US that can potentially require servicing, including devices such as: phones (and other small electronic devices including hearing aids), TVs, refrigerators, washing machines, diswashers, etc. Don't single out Apple and call it a day.
They aren’t… this is just on an Apple forum. If anything, the biggest bad guy is John Deere. But also, Why do you care if they single out Apple? No need to stand up for this 2T company. How dare they look into anti-competitive practices

I don’t understand how anyone can be against this development… more options for consumers is good. It won’t remove your pre-existing preferences.
 
Too many people here are longing for a past that no longer exists. My dad, as a youth, had a business replacing the vacuum tubes and then reselling old TVs. Those day are gone.
And like many on here, I remember the days of being able to easily replace parts on a Mac. The technology advances has decreased the number of overall components in a computing devices. Due to the increased portability of phones, tablets, and laptops, Apple made the decision to glue components in order to decrease the wear and tear of the connectors; which increases the durability and longevity but decreases the repairability.
And I am in favor of right-to-repair. And I am also in favor of the owner losing warranty protection if one decides to go that direction.
Why do you want the consumer to lose its warranty? If Apple decides that dealers should be “certified” and then gain access to its certified parts, why would you want them to be penalized?

you are most definitely are not in favor of right-to-repair. More like in favor of boot licking for Apple and a continuation of anti-competitive behavior.
 
Mr. FTC:

I'm for right to repair as long the laws apply equally to every manufacturer for products in the US that can potentially require servicing, including devices such as: phones (and other small electronic devices including hearing aids), TVs, refrigerators, washing machines, diswashers, etc. Don't single out Apple and call it a day.
I just fixed my Whirlpool washer after purchasing the official service manual (technically it was for the Maytag version of the same machine) and buying the genuine Whirlpool/Maytag replacement part.
 
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I am confused if there is no warranty or AppleCare, why would Apple care what you do with your device? There are under no obligation to make it easy to repair. Otherwise. if you can find the parts and know what you are doing then go for it.

After the maximum extension of AppleCare, Apple devices are essentially disposable.
The problem is that if there are 20 deaths related to battery explosions they will be the ones getting sued. It’s no different from loosing a lawsuit from implementing a system to recognize when the device aging battery is starting a damaging spike and throttling the OS to protect it thus extending the life of the device.

They noted this change but not explicitly in all CAPS, so they according to lawyers didn’t tell people.
The real scandal would be to recognize half of the devices were dying for this reason, but refused to address it with the provided solution. This would actually be planned obsolescence.

That didn’t matter to the vultures
 
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The term "Right to repair" unfortunately can be misleading. It's more about access to schematics and parts.
This is all any skilled tech needs. Service manuals aren't meant for the general public, it's meant for people with the skill and training to do technical work without screwing **** up. Anyone who wants to play at computer/phone/tablet repair can find books and online tutorial. Most I've seen are rubbish. But hey, that computer/phone/tablet you were tinkering with was a throwaway machine anyways, right?😏 Right?😲
Unintended consequence? Battery gets smaller as they have to now make room for cabling that can be removed by the user
Unnecessary. A skilled tech can remove a battery as long as the connection is accessible. Right to repair ain't meant for end users. Don't open that can of worms.
 
I just fixed my Whirlpool washer after purchasing the official service manual (technically it was for the Maytag version of the same machine) and buying the genuine Whirlpool/Maytag replacement part.
Which parts of that washing machine is not even allowed to be shipped by air because it is volatile? The types of batteries smartphones use can be unstable when handled improperly by untrained repairman.
 
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While this is an acceptable solution it isn't preferable. I'd like to see consumers themselves exercise a little self-control and buy products from companies that have a more open freedom to repair approach. But as it is, companies like Apple and Tesla will continue to fight against right to repair and should legislation pass to make their fight more difficult, they'll get creative to work around any limitations.
 
No, it's a government making laws to improve society. Freedom isn't all there is. Honestly i find this argument painful. Do you believe there should be no laws against murder because it hurts your freedoms and forces you into a life you prefer not to have. Do you really believe in anarchy? You sacrificed many freedoms for the greater good. What's more the government already makes and enforces many laws that push apple into a business that apple would probably prefer not to abide by. Taxes, import laws, IP laws, Trademark laws, minimum wage.

The government needs to hold companies accountable for valueless decision and processes that pose no value apart from to preventing third party repair, which is against the spirit of capitalism. Not only do these decisions force you into using apple services, but also prevent you having devices repaired that are repairable, or recovering data from said unrepairable devices.

1) Require all replacement parts to be independently supplied. (No more "exclusive" deals between apple and chip/component manufactures, and if there is a exclusive deal force apple to supply those components to the market at cost)
2) Prevent the totally unnecessary locking of components/parts to each other. Or at a minimum provide tools that allow those components to be re-paired when replaced.
This is the Wintel model which if you have noticed is almost dead. The current state of the art and the future is the tight integration of all hardware - look at the M1 Macs, the PC world will copy this hook line and sinker within the next 2 years. Besides replacing batteries, connectors (maybe), and a screen there is nothing else to replace - RAM - nope, CPU- nope, storage - nope.
 
Actually I see a lot of Lamborghini, Ferrari, and Porsche vehicles at small specialized repair shops. I see RX-7s and RX-8s at small shops that specialize in rotary engines as well.

No intelligent person would bring a out of warranty vehicle to the dealership unless it’s for a recall. The smarter driver brings their car to a trusted mechanic, and if it’s a high end car, they bring it to a shop that specializes in that brand.
Was just about to do a 'love" on your post but settled for a like.
There are some things that even good indie just doesn't know/have and the main stealer does. My vehicle is out of warranty, guess where I had my last service and where my next repair is booked............
Having said all that, I should certainly have the choice as to where to go with it.
 
The "independent repair shops will slap in bad components" argument wouldn't be a thing if those independent repair shops were allowed to source high quality OEM parts in the first place. Louis Rossmann has to use 'donor boards' to repair other Macs for this very reason.

It's perfect for Apple. They lock down the entire component supply forcing independent repair shops to utilize less than ideal parts then point the finger and say "See, look how bad those repair shops are!"

Personally I'm never taking my devices in to Apple themselves if I can help it, I'll always pick a reputable independent repair shop. Some are Apple certified (which means they have to do things the Apple way such as replacing the entire motherboard for one broken chip), some are not.
Your are naive if you think many “repair” centers will not use cheap, unauthorized parts for the sake of making more $.

And then when something bad happens with that “repair”, the consumer will get mad at Apple and bring it to them to then try to fix.

That is how this is going to go down
 
Unlawful?
I’ll tell you what’s an unlawful. My iPhone X Face ID not working anymore and apple saying they want $900 to replace my 4 year old phone. Rest of the phone is fine. As someone who has bought every Apple device ever pretty much I find this fantastic news for the future. Gouging at its finest.
 
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