Actually, this is EXACTLY the role of government, to protect and serve the people. The government should be doing more of this and less of trying to run everything in our lives, they have no business in health care (except in a limited role to enact laws that protect people, not run health care), they should not be providing welfare (leave that to charities, faith based or otherwise), they should not be worrying about if my house is green or blue. The government should keep people from being murdered, stopping illegal drugs, protecting our borders, stopping fires and other items that affect public safety.
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U.S. Government to Explicitly Allow iPhone Jailbreaking
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Actually, this is EXACTLY the role of government, to protect and serve the people. The government should be doing more of this and less of trying to run everything in our lives, they have no business in health care (except in a limited role to enact laws that protect people, not run health care), they should not be providing welfare (leave that to charities, faith based or otherwise), they should not be worrying about if my house is green or blue. The government should keep people from being murdered, stopping illegal drugs, protecting our borders, stopping fires and other items that affect public safety.
Great thank you, no intentions of changing, the Apple ecosystem has been awesome for me!
Did anyone really get in trouble for Jailbreaking, what could they really have done?
Ok. I just need to defer to your superior knowledge on the topic, since I believe you are a lawyer, and I am not.
Sure they will, and that's ok. The change in rules by the government means that the hardware and OS you bought belong to you, but by jailbreaking you forfeit some rights to support from Apple. That seems like a fair deal for both sides. I own the gear and can do with it as I please. Apple supports gear as long as you stay within their use rules.
Great thank you, no intentions of changing, the Apple ecosystem has been awesome for me!
Did anyone really get in trouble for Jailbreaking, what could they really have done?
I don't think you can get in trouble. You just forfeit future support from Apple. That seems like a fair deal to me. Kind of hard to imagine asking someone for a divorce and then still expecting the to come over and mow your lawn. Wait, Bad example. I know plenty of people that have had lawn maintenance included in their spousal support agreements;-)
But Apple's issue with people jailbreaking their phones has nothing to do with the DMCA.
I hope people realize this means and changes absolutely nothing.
Yes it does. Apple expressly stated that they believed that jailbreaking violates the DMCA.
Good newsTo bad the U.S government can't force Jobs to admit that the iP4 has a flawed antenna design.
He Did have you been living under a rock?
It will change things. When the iOS4 jailbreak comes, when the 2A's try to undue it, people will have a sh*tstorm that jailbreaking is now legal and demand that they be allowed to keep their device jailbroken.
Also, I love your avatar. You realize that it's pointing at your name, right
This is great news that sets a fair precedent in a crucial moment while new "smart" and "cloud" technologies are being introduced.... good to see that the market's "invisible hand" works both ways....
It was about time someone set some limits to those who aspired to have their cake, sell it, rent it and eat it too while charging a commission for doing so.
It was about time someone set some limits to those who aspired to have their cake, sell it, rent it and eat it too while charging a commission for doing so.
call me naive but what is the benefit of jail breaking?
Aside from the fact in 2 years I can break up with ATT and still have my iphone 4.
Aside from the fact in 2 years I can break up with ATT and still have my iphone 4.
•moar customization
•access to "unauthorized" apps such as those that Apple deams inappropriate. My favorite are "dashboard" type apps and iblacklist
•use your hardware as ipod touch if you no longer have a contract or service with an authorized carrier (not unlocking, just activating, though you can unlock obviously)
what jailbreaking doesn't do:
•affect non jailbroken users in anyway
• allow individuals to 'walk' into the app store and download items gratis. One can obtain a cracked IPA and install pirated applications but I think the whole procedure is convoluted and a pain in the ass.
•snatch kids
•brick phones (not following the instructions will do that)
• install viruses (the last virus that was out in the wild spread because users installed ssh access to their phones and didn't change the default password. Any other explanation is FUD)
For the record I have no intention to jailbreak my iPhone 4 because i've begun to excuse myself from "the scene" but I can understand why those who want to will, because apple will never see eye to eye with the jailbreaking community.
You have posted numerous rants in this thread complaining about this latest LoC decree, while all it does is declares Jailbreaking/Unlocking legal. This leads me to think you would rather see Jailbreaking/Unlocking made illegal (and therefore people who jailbreak/unlock would become criminals by extension).
If you don't believe unlocking/jailbreaking is a crime, then you have nothing to complain about as far as this LoC finding goes.
Good point. In viewing several forums that just about only talk about jailbreaking, the problems are in abundance. I tried it on my 3G and it never ran the same. Sure I had some cool programs but I couldn't stand the hassles.
While I believe in having a free os that I could run what I want to run if I bought the hardware, I also don't like the chaos that would come with it. This is one of the big reasons that I left the M$ os platform. Now that's a cluster you know what. One program crashing another and an os that can't get out of it's own way.
I'm really on the fence. I believe in the freedom from apple corporate but I don't like the idea of that anybody can put anything out there and assume it will all work together nicely. I like things that work right.
You can install apps outside of Apple App store, beyond the remit of Jobs and Apple thought police. The rest is details.
You can break up with AT&T and keep your iPhone after 2 years regardless of jailbreaking.
Nothing: so far Apple could use the DMCA to sue people that JB their iPhone/iPod for infringement of their intellectual property (making changes to the software). However, Apple never tried to do so, they never even went after the Dev-Team. So this is all that changes: they could but they didn't, now they just can't.
As for the warranty: the EULA still stands and states all warranty expires after a Jailbreak. Of course, there is no way for Apple to know you did a JB if you restore your iPhone/iPod to the official software, so even this doesn't really mean all that much.
No. No no no. This is not useful. This is the exact opposite. This is interference. This is the Gov. attempting to remdy something that NEEDS NO CHANGING. If people want to Jailbreak their devices, they assume 100% responsibility for what happens to it when they think they know what they're doing.
You clearly have no clue what this change actually means... the Gov doens't force Appel to do anything, they simply allow users to JB.
I have jailbroken my iPod and it works just perfectly fine, thank you. I now have full multitaksing for apps that don't support it yet through 4.0 (so now I can use another app while downloading some new content) and through SBSsettings I can asjust brightness, (de)activare WiFi, rotation or VPN without leaving an app. It works perfectly fine. Yu saying it doesn't just proves you are a blind biggot: if you don't wanna JB, then don't, fine with me. But don't call me an idiot and spread lies about the experience, which is jsut as great as before my JB.
They couldn't and they don't: the DMCA acutally outlawed making changes to the software without explicit permission from Apple. Effectively outlawing a JB. So now you can't end up with a huge fine or some jailtimefor a silly JB. Hwever, in the EULA Apple still states that warranty voids after a JB, and this doesn't change.
Again: if you don't want the extra apps: sure, go ahead. But don't tell me I don't need them. I can make my own choices, you sound an awful lot like a damn commie if you ask me...
This is a fair point for those with the old, unlimited data-plan. However, AT&T is now fully switching to the bucket-system, in which paying extra for tethering makes NO SENSE AT ALL!!! You apy for 250MB or 2GB. On what device you use those few megabytes should not be any of AT&T's bussiness: it doesn't matter for their network at all.
The exclusivity between Appelk and AT&T is only for sales. usage is somethign that only involves the customer's choice. Again: you sound like a communist bastard wanting to limit everyones freedom of choice by telling us what works for you whould work for everyone.
...you are a right-winged blind biggot. In this case, the Gov is actually protecting customer and personal freedom. it is not forcing Apple or AT&T to offer a service IN ANY WAY. It is only preventing them from suing people over a JB.
you sound like a racist, right-winged biggot that calls everything this administration does evil communism. While you are actually the enemy of both consumers worldwide and the world itself. People like you prevented the recent bill on CO2-restrictions and support the filibuster-craze that is killing democracy. You, sir, are destroying both society and the world because you have been raised to hate anything donkey. For that I both hate and pity you.