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U.S. House Judiciary Committee Subpoenas Apple for Info on Alleged Free Speech Suppression
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1. Absolutely, and it is tiring hearing government complain about private company actions. However, if there were collusion to suppress ”valid” speech (as opposed to calls to violence, threats, harassment, etc) then the collusion would very much blur that line. Jordan is playing semantics games to make valid functions seem conspiratorial.
2. Hate speech is fine. I do not agree with the KKK in the least, but if they want to peacefully assemble and out themselves as hateful bigots, that is their right. As other sources (eg, Brittanica) have pointed out, there are categories of speech that are not protected: “incitement, defamation, fraud, obscenity, child pornography, fighting words, and threats”
Guessing you haven't read the actual files or went in having already made up your mind. Did you watch the hearing? Picture of Musk at Super Bowl sitting with Murdock shows his "fair and balanced" pursuit of facts 😂
Yes, but that is a subset of “hate speech”. That subset is not protected, but as long as it does not cross over into those unprotected domains, people are free to say whatever ignorant, hateful garbage they believe.
Hate speech: Inciting violence, hostility or aggression against a person or group.
If only there were a concept, like criminal intent that is absolutely inherent and clear in that “bad editing”.Actually yes, it does and your absolute is wrong. That’s a very bad example that comes from a bad editing of Oliver Wendell Holmes opinion.
You can yell fire if you think there’s a fire. You can yell fire if you’re an actor on stage. You can yell fire in many other occasions.
Yes, you can yell 'fire' in a crowded theater
SCOTUS Justice Alito recently repeated the common misconception that "shouting 'fire' in a crowded theater" is unprotected speech.reason.com
They blocked Alex Jones’ podcast for relentlessly harassing the families of slain children at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Unfortunately the conservative platform is that it’s not only okay with this, but even encourages personal attacks on the families of slain children because they are soulless demons who protect the rights of murders to carry military grade assault weapons over the lives of our innocent children. Hearing those children dying in Uvalde while the police were just hanging out on their phones was the last straw for me.
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My grandfather was an engineer who ran a DoD funded research lab that helped develop the 5.56x45mm NATO round that has been used to kill so many of these children across the country. He’s about as conservative as it gets but even he doesn’t think civies should have military assault rifles and thinks there should be a ban. All he owns is a shotgun and hunting rifle and if you can’t protect your property and take an animal with one of those then nothing else will help you. He taught me how to shoot and be responsible with guns. I can’t wait for them to ban all of these types of guns which is what they should be talking about instead of this crap. And yet they give Elon a pass when yesterday he made Twitter into Eloner where everyone is forced to see his Tweets above all else. And they say libs are the ones manipulating things! Please.
Ehhh, there is still a line. Not a lawyer, but I feel that context and jurisdiction may conclude that falls under the “fighting words” category.
You are free to make those claims if you want, but once you start harassing and threatening others for not sharing in your ignorance then you have left the sphere of protected speech.A “quick search on the Internet” will bring up all manner of “research papers” showing that cold fusion is the secret zero-point energy source that Elvis uses in his Jewish Space Laser Flying Saucer to commute between his two-headed stepson’s place in Elon Musk’s Martian Playboy mansion and his home with Sasquatch in Kalamazoo.
Me? I like to get my medical facts from actual … what’s the word? Ah, yes … “doctors.” Like those at the Mayo Clinic:
Debunking COVID-19 myths
Some information you come across about COVID-19 may be out of date or false. Learn about COVID-19 myths so you can bust them when you see them.www.mayoclinic.org
Unless you want to claim that the Mayo Clinic is part of some grand super-conspiracy to keep the truth about Elvis from the sheeple?
(And, if you do want to seriously make such claims, please, in all sincerity, seek the services of a competent mental health practitioner. You don’t need to suffer the way you currently are.)
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Reason you can't find any info is because our media doesn't cover stories that go against the Democratic Party. In addition, most people who think they understand election issues in this country are actually not well-read - if they were, they would know the reports on these matters.
Tesla Labs report on Maricopa is attached here:
It's probably relating to the whole Apple Podcasts and Alex Jones but keeping in mind that at that point the Apple Podcast platform was merely an aggregator rather than a platform where podcasts were being hosted. With that all being said, the issue shouldn't be about freedom of speech (bringing up freedom of speech and 'the right' to be on private platforms by many here demonstrates an ignorance of the first amendment - side note, anyone find it funny how when it came to the same sex wedding cake fiasco that the same people on the right were proclaiming that private businesses should be allowed to choose who they want to do business with? am I expecting too much to expect consistency?) but the concentration of capital but neither party are willing to talk about it because both are beholden to the same masters. We need to move to a decentralised model, one that isn't dependent upon advertisement revenue etc. rather than both sides of the politics expecting that there will be a billionaire riding a white horse to 'rescue' them from the clutches of the evil tyrants on the other side of politics.
The difference between a bar that kicks you out, because you spout off stuff that the owner and patrons don’t like, and Apple, Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc. is that they have become de facto telecommunications media.
And hate speech is so ill-defined. It should have never entered our legal lexicon. Speech cannot hurt anyone who does not choose to listen.
And that’s exactly the question at the core. Hate speech is protected. A threat is not. So I can say “I hate all Macrumors users I hope they all die.” as it’s protected speech.
I am not wiggling around. Your statement was factually incorrect.
The discriminatory factor is not the words that are said, it’s not the transmission of the opinions or a feeling (hate/love). It’s the action taken. Hate speech is protected speech, as it should be. A threat isn’t.
I fear it will never go away, hence people will keep misunderstanding how the 1A works.
They host podcasts. There are people on Apple Podcast that I don’t particularly care for, but I just don’t listen to their show, I don’t try to silence them.
A lot higher than the IQ of the voters that sent Sleepy Joe to the White House.
I guess the FBI paying Twitter $3.5 million USD to silence Hunter’s laptop and Sleepy Joe’s 10% in the family crime syndicate profits technically isn’t “forcing “.
So basically I disagree with you and if you don’t silence the people with opposing views, I’ll silence you.
They also Silenced Podcasters.
A “quick search on the Internet” will bring up all manner of “research papers” showing that cold fusion is the secret zero-point energy source that Elvis uses in his Jewish Space Laser Flying Saucer to commute between his two-headed stepson’s place in Elon Musk’s Martian Playboy mansion and his home with Sasquatch in Kalamazoo.
Me? I like to get my medical facts from actual … what’s the word? Ah, yes … “doctors.” Like those at the Mayo Clinic:
Debunking COVID-19 myths
Some information you come across about COVID-19 may be out of date or false. Learn about COVID-19 myths so you can bust them when you see them.
Unless you want to claim that the Mayo Clinic is part of some grand super-conspiracy to keep the truth about Elvis from the sheeple?
(And, if you do want to seriously make such claims, please, in all sincerity, seek the services of a competent mental health practitioner. You don’t need to suffer the way you currently are.)
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I get mine from actual doctors too, doctors that live in the neighborhood, work in hospitals, ERs, and private practices in a major US city. (Houston ) None of them have received $54.3 billion USD from the federal government over any length of time.
An Introduction to U.S. Federal Funding for Healthcare Innovation - Mayo Clinic Innovation Exchange
Opportunities for healthcare startups to compete for U.S. federal (non-dilutive) funds and access support from participating federal agencies.
innovationexchange.mayoclinic.org
Could you really be any more naive? That’s like saying the mob didn’t do anything wrong when they’d say to people, “it’d be a real shame if…” (threat)
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Man, you might want to go see a doctor about that short term memory loss. It could be something serious, or it might just be old age.
PM me your email and I’ll set up a reminder for you.
Except they didn’t incite an insurrection. Trump told people to go home and be peaceful. Of course his account was immediately deleted.
You should listen to Maxine Waters speak. I admit, it’s a hard to watch her. She makes you want to puke. But she promotes violence.
Do all of these political threads degenerate into conspiracy theories? The 'Twitter Files' are a nothing burger, no matter how hard the right tries to make it something else.
You also probably believe the conspiracy theory that NewsMax is being 'suppressed' by DirectTV because DirectTV refuses to pay what they want for it.
Jeez, the world is crazy these days...
You also probably believe the conspiracy theory that NewsMax is being 'suppressed' by DirectTV because DirectTV refuses to pay what they want for it.
Jeez, the world is crazy these days...