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You can stop writing these stories defending Apple now. They can certainly take care of themselves. How about some "rumors" about new products instead of sales charts.


Then you must have missed the rumour of 'Apple Car' posted on this very forum and on the FRONT PAGE....;)
 
And Steve Jobs said that 3.5" was the perfect screen size :rolleyes:

I see no evidence that he was wrong.

That there is a strong market for stupid-big screens is not evidence that such screens are better than 3.5" screens -- just as the popularity of 48 oz. Coke Big Gulps at 7/11 is not evidence that 8 and 12 oz. servings of Coca Cola are too small.
 
And Steve Jobs said that 3.5" was the perfect screen size

Wasn't this quote back in 2008 or 2009 which is a lifetime ago and in the early years of the iPhone? I'm pretty sure some of said 10 years ago that 512MB of RAM is enough and now we have laptops with 16GB. Or back in the days of the tube TVs, people said 40" was gigantic and now we have 80" TVs.
 
It's not surprising that iPhone 6 series sales are so strong, after all Apple deprived us of modern sized displays for nearly three years. Therefore the pent up demand was huge.

Big displays are not "modern sized displays." They are simply comically big, appealing to people who are trying to compensate for something else by having an oversized phone.
 
Looks like a cheap phone wasn't the answer, after all.

Android still had an 80% global market share in 2014 per numbers published a few days ago by Strategy Analytics. iOS was something like 15%. For most of the world, cheap phones are almost a miracle.

I don't understand why we can't celebrate how life changing Android is for people who may never have dreamed of owning a computer of any kind, and now can have one in their pocket. If we could take a step back and see the world with a little bit of perspective, cheap phones (and their owners) wouldn't be the target of so many insults here.
 
just tired of the "War with Android" or Google stories.

You can't escape that on MacRumor's. Some people have turn the 'Apple Car' rumour into a fight between Google maps and Apple maps....

This site should be renamed as MacGooRumors....

Mods how about taking me up on my 'free' suggestion ?:D
 
Just read on CNBC that MICROMAX, a local indian smartphone producer has knocked off Samsung off the top spot in India!!

Wait for the story to appear on front page....
 
And Steve Jobs said that 3.5" was the perfect screen size :rolleyes:

You do realize that was in context of the time right? Pre retina was much lower res. and since he, you know, died, he can't really amend his stated opinions. Crazy, huh.
 
And Steve Jobs said that 3.5" was the perfect screen size :rolleyes:


It was...in 2007. Larger screens of the same pixel density were simply not possible when they created the original iPhone, without some serious performance issues anyway.
 
A lot of people think about Apple v. Android, but the reality is that Android is an OS that is on a LOT of manufacturers' phones. It's crazy that Apple sold more than all of those guys combined for a quarter...
 
A lot of people think about Apple v. Android, but the reality is that Android is an OS that is on a LOT of manufacturers' phones. It's crazy that Apple sold more than all of those guys combined for a quarter...

Very true. I they're going to compare Android, they need to compare it with iOS. Include all iPads and iPods. Perhaps not a big deal, but a more honest perspective.
 
A lot of people think about Apple v. Android, but the reality is that Android is an OS that is on a LOT of manufacturers' phones. It's crazy that Apple sold more than all of those guys combined for a quarter...

The other thing that people get wrong is that the battle isn't between iOS and Android, it is between iOS and Windows. iOS has won the battle against Android in the business world. No one uses Android, the phones are uncommon and the tablets non-existant. But I can't go one day shopping in NYC without seeing an iPad as point of sale computer. Almost all of the executives at my company use iPhone (except, interestingly, the CEO who uses an Android (resulting in him either being out of battery or not being able to get service)). Most of the executives have an iPad at home or which they use during commuting. IOS is dominating home computer use as well. So any encroachment into the working world is going to really hurt Windows. And I think it is happening.
 
Apparently you're unaware of the reality of market demands.

Apparently you're unaware of the reality of market demographics, in which higher income, more educated buyers have largely avoided Kindle-sized screens on smartphones.

That's why the iPhone 6 it outselling the iPhone 6 Plus several times over. What Apple has done with the iPhone 6 Plus is create the electronic equivalent of $200+ basketball sneakers -- not something aimed at an educated, affluent audience.
 
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Oh come now, a difference in opinion doesn't lead one to take a strong bias and go hang out on the forums of a site that doesn't even report on something you like. You're basically nesting yourself in to be the negative to everyone else's positive if that's the case...then you tell someone to smile and go hug somebody?

Either I am misinterpreting your quote or you're assuming something not in evidence. What is it you think I don't like? If you're referring to calling people trolls, which we're not supposed to do on this forum, then you're correct. If you're referring to my dislike of people displaying a lack of civility, you'd also be correct. If you're referring to anything else, you've lost me. My posting history definitely doesn't suggest what I think you're implying.

Again, if I misinterpreted your quote, apologies.
 
Apparently you're unaware of the reality of market demands.

Just because lots of people buy them doesn't mean huge phone screens are not ridiculously big. Given the choice between 18 billion dollars profit in a quarter and building phones with screens that are ridiculously big, or making less profit building phones with nicely sized screens, Tim Cook went for the profit. Steve Jobs might have gone for the nice screen. Or maybe not.
 
Android still had an 80% global market share in 2014 per numbers published a few days ago by Strategy Analytics. iOS was something like 15%. For most of the world, cheap phones are almost a miracle.

I don't understand why we can't celebrate how life changing Android is for people who may never have dreamed of owning a computer of any kind, and now can have one in their pocket. If we could take a step back and see the world with a little bit of perspective, cheap phones (and their owners) wouldn't be the target of so many insults here.

I'm sorry, I should have been clearer: Look like cheap phones aren't the answer to Apple winning market share.

Not trying to hate on Android or people who choose (or can only afford to) by 'cheap' phones. :)

I was criticising the people who claim Apple's only chance of increased success it a low cost iPhone - Apple did the opposite and still gained market share.
 
And Steve Jobs said that 3.5" was the perfect screen size :rolleyes:

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And why would Android sales not mean anything?

As for holiday shopping season, Apple releases the new iPhones just a few months before it, so a lot of people wait to get them for Christmas. So yes, holiday season is a huge boom for Apple sales compared to the rest of the competitors.

Because you're comparing a nebulous grouping of all devices using a piece of software to a single manufacturer.
 
Once that's filled, the true demand for iPhones will reveal itself. With Apple their brilliant and very persuasive sales pitch, only time will tell. :)

Yep, creating awesome products makes for a very convincing sales pitch. They practically sell themselves once people start getting their hands on them. If only the competition could do that, they wouldn't have to outspend Apple in marketing just to get to the sorry state of affairs they are at now.
 
If Apple were to release a 4 inch phone with top of the line specs in addition to it's current products, it would sell even more iPhones. Many people I know are hanging on to older phones because of screen size preference.
 
I'm sorry, I should have been clearer: Look like cheap phones aren't the answer to Apple winning market share.

Ah... understood. I didn't mean to pick on your post specifically. It just eats at me a little bit - that some Apple fans bask in any negative news about Android.

I owned an Android phone from ICS through Kit Kit, and they made some very impressive gains. As a previous iPhone 4 and current iPhone 6 owner, I can say that Android is much better than iOS in some areas and vice versa. It's actually very close.

But beyond the features, I'm very glad that Android works so well on cheap low-powered phones (more than I can say for iOS 8). It's so important for the vast majority of the world... it can't be overstated.
 
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