I know. But wouldn't Apple love that we do?
I still use a Macbook 3,1 which has just turned 50 months old
I also use a MBP 5.5, which is half that.
Really didn't see the need to get anything else, but i did upgrade them with max RAM and SSDs
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I know. But wouldn't Apple love that we do?
I still use a Macbook 3,1 which has just turned 50 months old
I also use a MBP 5.5, which is half that.
Really didn't see the need to get anything else, but i did upgrade them with max RAM and SSDs
no one? you're kidding right?
The need for something faster and better simply doesn't exist anymore. The speed increase model over model is so minimal now its pathetic.
if you need a new machine, buy one... its that simple. Its not like the newest model is going to be lightyears ahead of the last model.
I am loathe to ever suggest an historical endpoint, but haven't we come to the metaphorical "end of the road" when it comes to desktop or laptop computers?
Not that they won't continue to improve - faster processors, memory, improved disk and display technologies. But that a) those improvements will be incremental and b) that the pace will be dictated by companies other than Apple (ie. Intel, NVidia, etc.)
Jony Ive's interview this past weekend was illuminating. Its pretty clear Apple doesn't go into any new product with the sole idea of being "different" - they go into it only if they can be significantly "better."
And thats why I think we haven't seen a new Mac Pro for a while. There simply hasn't been a compelling enough reason to throw out a pretty good chassis and motherboard design. "Good Enough" certainly has its detractors. But surely its better - to say nothing of more honest - than "change for change's sake."
There are some things on the horizon: Thunderbolt promises ultra-fast backup of the sort of terabyte-size files video and graphics editors work with. Right now the cost of SSD storage makes it unaffordable for most users to take advantage of the technology. And surely the latest iPad portends a huge change in our expectations for video display on the desktop Mac.
Apple knows what the Mac Pro of 2013 and 2014 looks like. And Apple as a company surely cannot, and will not, soon forget its roots.
Not that they won't continue to improve - faster processors, memory, improved disk and display technologies. But that a) those improvements will be incremental and b) that the pace will be dictated by companies other than Apple (ie. Intel, NVidia, etc.)
Jony Ive's interview this past weekend was illuminating. Its pretty clear Apple doesn't go into any new product with the sole idea of being "different" - they go into it only if they can be significantly "better."
And thats why I think we haven't seen a new Mac Pro for a while. There simply hasn't been a compelling enough reason to throw out a pretty good chassis and motherboard design. "Good Enough" certainly has its detractors. But surely its better - to say nothing of more honest - than "change for change's sake."
There are some things on the horizon: Thunderbolt promises ultra-fast backup of the sort of terabyte-size files video and graphics editors work with. Right now the cost of SSD storage makes it unaffordable for most users to take advantage of the technology. And surely the latest iPad portends a huge change in our expectations for video display on the desktop Mac.
Apple knows what the Mac Pro of 2013 and 2014 looks like. And Apple as a company surely cannot, and will not, soon forget its roots.
I edited your comment a little, please dont get mad
Scenario
2 year old MacPro breaks down or get stolen.
What you can get from Apple to replace it?
Yeah. The same 2 year old MacPro.....
I don't know who down votes this post. It's true, the MP is old, old, old. Upgrading the video cards is $$$$, $$$, or $$$$.
The ATI 5770 you can buy in that MacPro is 2 years and 5 months old.
I don't know why people gave you negative likes, this seems a valid question.
From what I hear it is just really cost prohibitive right now. Those drives are going for $800, and even at wholesale price that would really drive up the cost of the computer.
I think it's a fair bet that when Apple updates its product lines, it will be an evolution in personal computing, not a devolution. I'd expect to see better products in the future, making full use of of all the available Intel chips.
Bring on the new MBAs w/ 6G SSDs!
All kidding aside, what good is that? I just upgraded my MBP to 750GB. Unless all you do is surf the web or plan to store everything in the Cloud, small solid state drives aren't going to cut it and it's going to be very expensive in any case.
A 128GB SSD is going for about $200 and Apple usually charges far more than what third party resellers get. My 750GB HD (which also included some flash memory, which I guess is used as a cache), was around the same price. So now in order to replicate in a new machine what I already have I've got to spend an additional $1200 or so just to have a solid state drive? That's absurd.
This is why I argue that Apple has to continue to keep the MBA and MBP lines separate - the MBA for people who largely consume content and don't need lots of local storage and the MPB for people who do intense work that requires lots of local storage. As I've posted previously, my clients would not let me post files for them in Apple's Cloud, due to security concerns.
I don't need toys Apple, some people have work to do...
Ha I love these comments. First you imply others who buy these items are not doing work, then expect us to believe you "can't" get work done on the current generation of laptop/desktops. I am going to go out on a limb here and say you are being a drama queen.
This is true. But it has nothing to do with the iPad or anything iOS. It has to do with the availability of new parts being invented from Intel, AMD, NVIDIA etc etc first. Can't make a new Mac if newer CPUs and GPUs and other parts have not been invented yet.
And for every Mac apart from the Mac Pro Apple wants parts that don't use a crap load of power to use. Which is good, saves on your power bill and the end product still works very well.
So now you see now how new Mac Release dates have nothing to to with iOS release dates at all. It's like something is released while something 100% unrelated is not released.
A rather misleading article and article title though. It makes people think Macs not released is somehow related to iOS releases. This is 100% not the case. But the article could make people think that way. Not good at all.
What do you mean, "What good is that?" 6G is a SATA device speed, not a storage size. 6G SSDs have measurably faster read speeds than the 3G SSDs in today's MBA. In fact, the slower SSD chips used in the current MBA line are no longer widely available.
OBTW, just because you insist on dragging around near terabytes of data on your laptop doesn't mean everyone will...
Ooops..sorry...I thought he was referring to storage size.
And I agree that "not everybody will". That's why the two lines (or different models) should be maintained: one for people who don't need a lot of storage and therefore can use SSDs and one for people who do. One for people who need the power of separate graphics processing and one for those who don't. Etc.
I agree. At this time, they need to have two separate lines, because there are a lot of people who won't be served by the compromises it would take to combine the MBP and MBA platforms. A year or two (or three) when SSD storage sizes are larger and cheaper, then maybe.
If the 15" MBA comes to pass, that might be the right platform for a discrete GPU, 8 GB RAM, and the 512GB storage size that many people would need to cut over to the MBA platform, but I'm just not sure I see that happening this spring.