I will postulate that "repairable" design was products made in the 1950's where anything and everything was "analog" and vacuum tubes and there was no technology in anything.
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U.S. President Joe Biden to Direct FTC to Draft Right to Repair Rules
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I will postulate that "repairable" design was products made in the 1950's where anything and everything was "analog" and vacuum tubes and there was no technology in anything.
People that pay big bucks for iPhones (like me) should have some choice in getting it repaired, but as an Apple Stock holder, I will trust any repairs to Apple, even if they are more expensive. I got stung once getting a new exhaust for my Audi 90, took it to a local mechanic who put on an aftermarket system that was awful, didn't fit right, didn't have the proper design which made run poorly. I bought a factory approved system for close to $700 and had him take off the crappy one and put mine on. Called the supplier of the crappy one and they said he could return it. It pays to know what you are getting. People need to do the necessary searches on the reputation person or company doing the repair.
Disagreed. You do know they bake warranty costs into the price of the product, right? So a $399 iPhone SE will suddenly be $429 if Apple was forced to cover 2 years of repairs. You're simply forcing everyone, including yourself, to pay more for warranty that you possibly don't want.
Because this isn't just about iPhone.
It's about farm equipment, EVs, medical devices, etc.
This is currently happening at my repair shop. Only two people fully certified including me. The rest of the crew has repaired Apple devices under supervision.
And that is EXACTLY where non certified manufacturer trained people need to stay out of. Farm machinery is some of the most deadly equipment. 1 mistake can kill somebody.....followed by lawsuits. It is also the same on cars that have a system that stops the car from hitting the car in front....ie Subaru Eyesite....if the windshield needs to be replaced, the entire laser system needs to be recalibrated. done incorrectly, once again, you will kill somebody.
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So when the manufacturer doesn't certify anyone else but themselves, you end up with John Deere.
Hope it doesn’t pass. I’ve seen so many people…parents, friends, exes, etc, who generally arent tech savvy, get scammed by shady 3rd party repair kiosks and insurance companies who “fix” their devuces with low quality chinese/fake components that dont meet OEM spec and ruin the integrity of the device.
So, yes John Deere should offer other options with trained techs that are available to the farmer faster as harvesting has a expiration date. but, those kind of machines are not something to f* around with.
Agreed. I’ve even had AT&T‘s phone warranty provide replacements for one of my kid’s iPhones and twice they’ve gotten replacements that were clearly not Apple certified refurbs - they were broken or damaged right out of the box. I feel bad for the few actual good repair facilities that can’t get enough Apple certified parts to do repairs, but Apple themselves run into these issues too, which in part is why you sometimes get device replacements when something can’t be fixed, or not fixed in a quick enough timeframe.
As I said, if this is true then I'm less bothered. If this leads to "batteries and RAM must be replaceable by the user" or "adhesives can't be used to seal the housing" requirements then we have lawyers making technical decisions which never turns out well.
It’s a minimum of $50,000 to become “certified.” Why you may ask? Apple requires a store front. That means you need a minimum of $50,000 just to keep your doors open for six months. Apple’s requirement of a storefront is a massive barrier to entry.
Well how are those shops going to fix devices with high quality genuine replacement parts if Apple doesn’t make them available? 🤔
Pick your poison. If Apple loses money from “right to repair,” they’ll just raise prices. I’d rather pay an extra $30 and get an extra year of warranty than pay an extra $30 for the right to have any random person fix my gadget.
Agreed. It's amazing that this is even a restriction. I'm pretty happy I don't need to bring my car to the dealer to have them replace the brakes and change the oil...
Oh yeah my mom got scammed big time by Sprint like that. Her “new replacement” iphone 5s was some frankenstein refurbished ******** that had a fake screen and the battery didnt even last 2-3 hours.
Gee, I wonder how well this is going to go over with Apple, the people that likely supported Biden.
This is good because many things Apple says that it’s irreparable, asking people to pay for a replacement, 500 euros, are indeed reparable.
This happen to me in the start of the year.
1. Noticed that the lightning port of my iPhone X (1300 euros back than) stopped charging. But considering that my battery was at 86% and barely use it decided to wait.
2. A few months after battery at 80% decided to replace.
3. Went to a an Apple certified shop to swap the battery.
4. They told me that couldn’t because the port wasn’t working.
5. I told them that knew so asked them to fix it and replace the battery.
6. They told me as per Apple policy could not repair the port.
7. They told me that they could not replace the battery also as they needed the port working to test device etc etc.
8. They gave me the Apple solution. For 550 euros or so they would give me a “new” iPhone X in exchange …
9. What? Anyway went to a Indian shop to find out how hard it was really to repair this thing.
10. Can you repair just the lightning port of this iPhone X? Yes sure … 50 euros all.
11. 45 minutes later done.
12. Back to the Apple certified shop to swap the battery for an original one. 1.5 hours later done … 60 euros.
110 euros total … Apple solution was 550 euros + plus hand over my perfectly good iPhone X that just needed a simple repair $$$$$
Geezzz. Customers and environment best interests …. Heheheh.
This all privacy, security, safety and all babble is just $ little else. Buy Apple as I do, but watch you $backs$, and use your customer voice for the good and for the suspicious or bad.
Trust no nothing, 0 good will.
PS: I would like the Govs to stay out of this too … but don’t see how they can with companies with this kind of extortion policies when it comes to repair the product they have sold.
This happen to me in the start of the year.
1. Noticed that the lightning port of my iPhone X (1300 euros back than) stopped charging. But considering that my battery was at 86% and barely use it decided to wait.
2. A few months after battery at 80% decided to replace.
3. Went to a an Apple certified shop to swap the battery.
4. They told me that couldn’t because the port wasn’t working.
5. I told them that knew so asked them to fix it and replace the battery.
6. They told me as per Apple policy could not repair the port.
7. They told me that they could not replace the battery also as they needed the port working to test device etc etc.
8. They gave me the Apple solution. For 550 euros or so they would give me a “new” iPhone X in exchange …
9. What? Anyway went to a Indian shop to find out how hard it was really to repair this thing.
10. Can you repair just the lightning port of this iPhone X? Yes sure … 50 euros all.
11. 45 minutes later done.
12. Back to the Apple certified shop to swap the battery for an original one. 1.5 hours later done … 60 euros.
110 euros total … Apple solution was 550 euros + plus hand over my perfectly good iPhone X that just needed a simple repair $$$$$
Geezzz. Customers and environment best interests …. Heheheh.
This all privacy, security, safety and all babble is just $ little else. Buy Apple as I do, but watch you $backs$, and use your customer voice for the good and for the suspicious or bad.
Trust no nothing, 0 good will.
PS: I would like the Govs to stay out of this too … but don’t see how they can with companies with this kind of extortion policies when it comes to repair the product they have sold.
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As opposed to getting scammed by “Geniuses” who insist on replacing whole components or devices because they have limited to no actual repair skills. If the current situation wasn’t also bad, we wouldn’t need these laws.
I'm sure you know this, but you can get that now. It is just a question of presently you have the choice to buy it or not. If it is mandated, then the cost will just be bundled into the price of the phone including for people that don't want it.
The people buying the item always pay, it isn't free. It is merely a question of whether one has to freedom to self insure or not.
Maybe if Apple offer 5 years of Apple care, but that would cost much more. Easy battery replacement for Macs, phones etc would be welcome, but it would come with costs.
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Good point. But I would like to be able to swap out/upgrade parts/repair on my own. Going to Apple every time I need something can get expensive.