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U.S. Senator Raises Questions About Security and Privacy of Face ID
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They do, and they want it all! The government can only take away rights, not give them.
Ok you're a public figure, whose whole future employment is based on a popularity vote. Now, how do you get people to notice you, question about Equi-something (which many if not most people know very little about) or Apple products sold around the entire world?
I'd say a retired comedian is planning on his next election.
I'd say a retired comedian is planning on his next election.
Apple again not giving people options. No reason they could not have placed a fingerprint sensor on the back of the device. I hope this fails because fingerprint sensors are ideal. How am I supposed to look at my phone under a table during a meeting at work? FAIL.
This is a joke, because if you really mean it maybe you should not be at that meeting at all.
I know you're that guy in the commercial who watches sports while out on a date.
Since people keep bringing up the Equifax breach, I’ll put this here:
https://www.franken.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=3758
His questions and concerns are valid. I don’t care if they’re coming from democrat or republican. We’re all Apple users here. Getting more specific information and some formal answers from Apple regarding the security of Face ID is a good thing.
https://www.franken.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=3758
His questions and concerns are valid. I don’t care if they’re coming from democrat or republican. We’re all Apple users here. Getting more specific information and some formal answers from Apple regarding the security of Face ID is a good thing.
They could have had edge-to-edge if the screen was 2 separate area. A rectangle all the way to the bottom of the screen that apps can use, and the 2 "ears" that are only accessible to the OS for the status bar. Sloppy implementation.
Via the U.S. Senate and House you can get any answer you want, too. "The benefit of the American people?" Are you deliberately being obtuse, or is it accidental?
Agreed, but then I would also expect the Senator would be equally or even more concerned about all smartphone manufacturers including all the non-US made and designed Android phones.
What us non left folks are upset about is a pompous politician (do I repeat myself) getting involved with a private company's business. The market will judge whether Apple's facial recognition is good/secure enough. Where does Al stand on the NSA massive privacy intrusions?
Absolutely! This is my primary concern, and to the best of my knowledge it was not addressed in the Keynote or elsewhere by Apple. The Keynote said the face ID was more secure than Touch ID, but because there is a substantially lower error rate on identification. Although I presume it is possible to force someone to place their finger(s) on the Touch ID button, it sounds much easier to just grab the iPhone (or legally demand it's surrender) and point it at the user's face. The only defence I can think of at this point is to rapidly alter your facial features, e.g., closing your eyes, distorting your mouth or scrunching.
They don't. What is computed and stored in the Secure Enclave is a hash value. You can predict the likely of a hash collision from the algorithm and the number of data points used.
Oh my goodness our politicians are so stupid. Its funny to watch and sad to know they run the country. Morons every one of them.
As serious as the numerous govt breaches which released personal data all over the world. These are going to happen. Mitigation is the key.
Mark Gurman posted a Facebook live video of the new device. They let him put his face in it and showed that if you were not looking at the phone it wouldn’t unlock. The only thing he didn’t show was if it could unlock with the device on the table instead of in his hands.
Finally, a person with sound judgement. Do you people really think a Keynote is an official document?
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Yes he did
People are asking why he repeatedly attacks Apple's security and not, for example, Equifax's security. The link you provided appears to be entirely about forced arbitration clauses. That's an important issue as well, but it doesn't answer the question nor does it fit the topic of challenging security at all.
Al Franken is a politician and the questions were only asked for publicity, because he knows that Apple has refused government requests to breach phone security. I would think more highly of him if he hadn't asked the questions publicly, or simply bothered to look at Apple's record. As it stands, he has just shown himself to be a political troll.
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But did he have to do it the way he did it? Generally, persons are asked to appear before the committee and before that there are questions sent in private to let the party know what is going to be asked and the basis of the inquiry. He may be the head of the committee, but the letter and the publication were only intended to gain publicity for him. He is nothing but a political troll.
"You figured...?" Why? They didn't do anything fishy with TouchID... as a matter of fact they took on the FBI when asked to crack a phone. Probable spyware? Why in the world would Apple do that? It's part of their differentiated value to not spy, to not track, to not store profiles. On the other hand you proclaim that Apple is bad and you move to an Android powered device? If you had moved to a Blackberry maybe you'd have had a supportive argument. Android is Google's answer to collecting everything they can about you to sell more profitable information to advertisers. Android is inherently insecure and all about supporting Google's business model. I'm not pointing fingers or being critical of Android users but since you brought up potential spyware and technology that could reveal your secrets, you should take a look at Google's business model and really take a look in the mirror before casting aspersions.
He's a troll because he's engaging fact finding within the subcommittee that oversees this exact thing? How does that make sense?
People like to scream that politicians do nothing and then they get just as angry when a politician is actually doing his job. It's obviously fine to not agree with his POV on things, but why is requesting answers to a large issue in an official format so objectionable? This happens ALL THE TIME by the way. The request is made public because it's an open request in the public interest. And by making the request public, people will look for Apple's response. If the answers would be released publicly, the questions need to be public as well. And frankly, unless Apple is trying to pull a fast one on people, I have to think they're extremely happy for the opportunity to explain all this in written official detail. If it wasn't public, Apple may not bother responding or it might require a subpoena which is usually a last resort for in depth investigations--not inquiry questions. A hearing obviously isn't necessary at this point so there's no need for private advance questions either.
As a citizen it bothers me that the "govt" intrusively asks a corporation questions when it has done nothing wrong. Senators are not industry watchdogs. Their job is to legislate. They aren't in law enforcement or a regulatory agency. This smacks of grandstanding and overreach.
And it isn't a simple or inexpensive process to answer these questions. Outside counsel will likely be hired so it is all vetted properly. Trust me, I know that This requires a ton of work and costs and internal and external reviews. The government has no reason to ask anything at this point in time. If and when there is some violation of the law, it can get involved. It's not the job of the senate. I don't like the POWER play involved here.
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Yes in fact he has questioned Touch ID and Apple Pay in the past. He should turn his attention to Google.
It's not the senates job to investigate possible issues. Their job is to legislate. They aren't a regulatory agency. This is a power overreach. And I like franken and his politics. The senate has no business asking questions where nothing has happened or their is no legal violation shown. Who are they to ask anyone questions? This should bother any US citizen. Is this really the role of the senate to bother a corporation over an announcement of a product? Seems overly intrusive to me.
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Why. It's a private company. If and when they do something illegal they can be investigated.
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Their job in the senate is to legislate. Not try to find problems where none exist.
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