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People have made all this noise and anger about a free U2 album downloading to their device? Why? Why? Just why? You don't like it delete it. Just can't believe that some people are having some kind of self righteous uproar over a automatic download album.

I'll just blame the US consumer. I don't think any other nation can do something so weird and dumb.
 
ohhh so why aren't you and the rest of the haters b&tching about native apps that can't be removed from iOS? OMG its the end of the world for whiny a$$ Americans that can't possibly have something given to them for free without their bloody 'rights' coming into play. IT WAS FREE.

I didn't mention anything about my rights. These douches are probably your favorite band which explains why you're so angry. That says everything I need to know about you.

Now watch a tribute to your big piece of crap band leader.
 
I hate the pages and pages of 'FREE' advertisements that come inside the Sunday newspaper too.
 
It doesn't matter what you think of U2 really, they are great artists and not fake play-back studio type.

I have seen them live twice and have all albums up to and including Pop. Still think they are horribly outdated today though.
 
MR whiners just complaining of another First World Problem. :rolleyes:

As opposed to Yazidis, Christians, and Kurds being massacred in some Middle Eastern country or two. I'm sure having to worry about Bono's music downloaded to their iPhones is the least of their worries.

Dont care whats going on in the Middle East, not my fight.
 
Congratulations, America. You've forced an apology from someone who gave you something for FREE.

Oh I see. To be clear, I do like U2 and hey a FREE album by a band I like is fine with me.

However not everyone does and believe it or not a lot of people have Automatic Music Downloads turned on so that music THEY purchase can be downloaded to all their devices. As you also know not everyone has a 32 or 64GB device and may be treading on empty on their storage space.

Do I need to continue? Now what they could have done is sent all iTunes users a one time use code that had to be redeemed to get the album, problem solved.

But since you went ahead and pointed the finger at Americans, wow, how about this? So if this would have happened in India, or Europe or the UK or where ever you are from or any other place in the world there would have been NO complainers?? Yeah right. People are People, man.

And by the way why don't you give me your address because I have these old 15 inch CRT monitors from the 90's, I'll drop them by. No one seems to want them but they are FREE, so you shouldnt have a problem with that, right?

:rolleyes:
 
The band who's 2011 tour was the highest grossing revenue of all time, was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and has won more Grammy's than any other artist of all time isn't relevant?

Interesting (and incorrect) position.

2011 was three years ago, that is practically a decade in this age
 
People have made all this noise and anger about a free U2 album downloading to their device? Why? Why? Just why? You don't like it delete it. Just can't believe that some people are having some kind of self righteous uproar over a automatic download album.

I'll just blame the US consumer. I don't think any other nation can do something so weird and dumb.

I agree. I love how they love to use the phrase "SHOVE DOWN MY THROAT!!!"

This reminds me when I was a kid Mott Clamoto veggie juice was being introduced to the market. Samples where given and in my mail box at home. Man what an uproar. I never asked for free sample of something be placed in my mail box. I was 8 years old and man did I shove that down my throat, it was delicious.

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Oh I see. To be clear, I do like U2 and hey a FREE album by a band I like is fine with me.

However not everyone does and believe it or not a lot of people have Automatic Music Downloads turned on so that music THEY purchase can be downloaded to all their devices. As you also know not everyone has a 32 or 64GB device and may be treading on empty on their storage space.

Do I need to continue? Now what they could have done is sent all iTunes users a one time use code that had to be redeemed to get the album, problem solved.

But since you went ahead and pointed the finger at Americans, wow, how about this? So if this would have happened in India, or Europe or the UK or where ever you are from or any other place in the world there would have been NO complainers?? Yeah right. People are People, man.

And by the way why don't you give me your address because I have these old 15 inch CRT monitors from the 90's, I'll drop them by. No one seems to want them but they are FREE, so you shouldnt have a problem with that, right?

:rolleyes:

Actually by nature Americans complain more and generally rude. Travel the world and it is the same sentiment everywhere.

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The apology was unnecessary, albeit good intentions. I guess it was worth it to silence the haters.

The haters still complained the way he apologized.

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No ... this not just a free download and I'm ungrateful - There is free stuff all over iTunes -

This is spam - plain and simple - apple knows it , Bono knows it. U2 was greedy and I believe talked apple into this - AND got big cash for it as well - Fact is in todays market they would have lucky to sell a million units ... and clearly THEY know that.

But on the eve of the album starting to count as sales - bono sez 'opps, sorry about that' - What an Idiot.

Apple has never done this before - and I doubt they'll do it again. U2 wins this one.

See can't do anything right with you.. apologizes and you call him an idiot. You must live such a structured perfect life where you never make any mistakes and perfect at everything that you do.

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Yes. Cook should apologize.

Why then you will complain about the way he did it or some other made up error in your head. I think you should just go away and stick with the competitor if all you can do is whine about everything about Apple. Why do I not see this stuff in Andriod boards?

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Some people in this thread need help or at least to get some actual perspective on life.

I know right.

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Sorry Bono,, bit late for that..

Besides, why is he apologizing for something Apple did...?

Wow talk about splitting hairs. Bono acknowledge the error and yet it is not enough for you.. you want Apple to apologize yet distaste at Bono at the same time? You just want apologizes all the way around and for everything don't you.

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Apple really took advantage of their customers in a bad way and it was a very poor judgement call on Apple's part. They really get what they deserve here and I do not feel sorry for them at all with all of the complaints.

If I wanted music and other things shoved down my throat, why not just revert to pre-2007-iPhone days when the carriers did the same thing.

Shame on Apple.

No they didn't according to all the people that live the Album which if we had to compare the % of people 'annoyed' would be single % if not fraction of a %.
 
Just watched U2 on the Graham Norton show in the UK, and they have just shown why they are still easily the best band in the world. They still have a great sense of humour as well, they were having a good laugh about what all the numpty's have been complaining about on here since they gave their album away for free, for those who wanted it.

With big bands dying out and no new bands coming through, bands that last 30 years plus are going to be a thing of the past. It just goes to show just how good U2 are, and they are still at the top of their game after all these years.
 
mr shades

Bono as a front man is still great, still has a good voice although lost it in mid 90s but seems have got his singing mojo back.

Not arsed about his heart on his sleeve political protestations, he is a man of many contradictions. I can see why he is annoying. He is at best a megalomaniac and has a massive ego.

Loved U2s early stuff, some of their newer stuff.. It was a master stroke for them to be accessed by 500mil iTunes customers. Their album sales have been flagging, so it was a great idea for them to be able to do that, although I guess Apple footed the bill. They probably the only band with the resource to do that in this current market. They will sell this new album and go on a massive ten year tour again to keep them some how 'relevent'.

i still have that album on my computer, not listened to it yet, only some of it. As with U2 stuff nowadays not all of their music is great. For a band who had so many albums out at least 3 of them are in top 200 albums ever. Not bad. Music is about opinions and I used to be a bit of a nut over U2 when I was younger, still like some of their stuff, but new bands out there too, fresh ideas, new angles to tell a story or to win your heart.

Music distribution has changed so much over the last 10 years, cd sales are down were as vinyls have steadily grown and found a niche in the market. Thom Yorke has presented his second solo album on bit-torrent. Digital downloads is convenient for us on the move, but I may go back to vinyls... but how expensive have they become.
 
If you don't like Apples Terms and Conditions... don't use their products, it really is that simple!

It's never that simple. If you don't like the USA, just move.

But I think the point is, people set automatic download to have the purchases they chose be downloaded. And they did not choose U2. I'm sure few anticipated the idea that Apple would suddenly give you something.

Couldn't they have simply offered it for free for a month? Yes they could have.

Embarrassed, Bono apologised.
 
U2 download

I really don't see what the big deal is about this whole publicity stunt? Especially because it was probably not meant to be so imposing on some people! And apparently, whatever happened wasn't technically THEIR fault anyways. Even if U2 were a horrible band :D which regardless of anyone's taste, they're certainly not, people shouldn't be complaining about a taste of FREE music. Besides, even a band that's as big as they are can always use a little publicity boost, and it looks like they definitely got one ;)
 
I really don't see what the big deal is about this whole publicity stunt? Especially because it was probably not meant to be so imposing on some people! And apparently, whatever happened wasn't technically THEIR fault anyways. Even if U2 were a horrible band :D which regardless of anyone's taste, they're certainly not, people shouldn't be complaining about a taste of FREE music. Besides, even a band that's as big as they are can always use a little publicity boost, and it looks like they definitely got one ;)

Here's my beef. Apple is the one that PAID for the albums that were downloaded. U2 isn't giving away ANYTHING for free. That's the first beef I have.

Secondly, how the terms and conditions were set is unknown to the public at large.

I downloaded the album to see if I liked it enough to keep it. I didn't like it. I thought for a album that took 5 years to produce, it was awful. The Beatles wouldn't take 5 years to produce a crappy album like this. It wasn't just the songwriting, it was the production. It was just awful and unlistenable and I've heard a LOT of albums over the years by a LOT of different musicians/bands/genres. I can be pretty open minded, as long as there is a certain degree of proficiency in musicianship and production.

What U2 was doing was trying to promote themselves, make money and to get credit for breaking a record for the most downloaded/sold album. With iTunes and this promotion, it's kind of hard not to be able to do that, regardless of who you are. I get that, Bands have to figure out ways to promote themselves to sell content and tours. Nothing wrong with that, but they are already well known entity that doesn't need to do much to get attention by the media.

If the Beatles were to do this, they would have had a better album, better sounding album and probably 10x the number of people climbing over themselves to get the album, but they aren't around. U2 is NOT the Beatles, yet they are trying to outdo the Beatles in a way where it's just a cheap and slimy way of doing it. Heck, The Roliing Stones, Michael Jackson and any number of top acts that are around or not around could do this. But they CHARGED money for this, U2 didn't give away the album for free.

I would have liked it if the album was produced better where I could actually listen to each song without being irritating by the sound quality. It was just annoying and yes, I do have a better than average stereo to listen to it, so it wasn't my stereo and it's not my ears. I've heard better sounding production from a bunch of nobody's doing a demo on a home based computer system.

At this point, if I were Apple, I wouldn't work with U2 again. There are plenty of other class acts to deal with to promote music. Heck, Peter Gabriel, Sting, tons of jazz artists that need more exposure, and other higher quality musicians/bands that have better production and composition that deserve more public attention could use a break. U2? I'm sick of watching Bono with his self absorbed BS and his pink glasses. He's a jerk as far as I'm concerned. I think his whole Red campaign is BS, I don't think the majority of the money they collect actually does anything except for promote something people are already well aware of. Bono is just too self absorbed and it's getting REAL old.

U2 doesn't need a publicity boost. All they have to do is drop an album, send out Press Releases to the media and they'll get PLENTY of cheap publicity by just sending out a one page Press Release and getting interviewed by the media and sending out demo CDs to every publication that reviews music. It's not that difficult for them to get international attention. Bono can walk out of his door and open his mouth and he'll get free publicity.
 
i'll tell you the truth, read it here:

i have figured out that it was like this:

1. previous U2 album sales were bad and apple offered to buy their new album, and post if for free, WITHOUT SAYING THAT THEY HAVE PAID FOR IT, it was supposed to be like "U2 is giving the gift to people and apple is just facilitating it" cause apple people thinks that it is better commercial for apple that way.

2. bono agreed, but then renegaded on this promise (and secret contract) by saying "you have to pay for it first, we are not giving the music for free", during the 'great ceremony'

3. apple executives have told him that this was breach of the contract and made him eat up his words by taking a blame for automatic downloads, though this was surely apple idea, not his.


can i prove it? no, but you can see the "ceremony" for yourself on youtube, you can see that bono says "you have to pay for it first" while apple executive seems to be "surprised" by this request, and the timing of request is quite illogical, and it this context it appears that my explanation is just about only logical explanation for bono later apologising for what is surely apples "fault" (if you can call it a "fault", cause some mp3 players come with few already preloaded songs, and it is easy to just delete it, just like everyone can delete songs of innocence, no problem, no good reason to complain really).
 
i have figured out that it was like this:

1. previous U2 album sales were bad and apple offered to buy their new album, and post if for free, WITHOUT SAYING THAT THEY HAVE PAID FOR IT, it was supposed to be like "U2 is giving the gift to people and apple is just facilitating it" cause apple people thinks that it is better commercial for apple that way.

2. bono agreed, but then renegaded on this promise (and secret contract) by saying "you have to pay for it first, we are not giving the music for free", during the 'great ceremony'

3. apple executives have told him that this was breach of the contract and made him eat up his words by taking a blame for automatic downloads, though this was surely apple idea, not his.


can i prove it? no, but you can see the "ceremony" for yourself on youtube, you can see that bono says "you have to pay for it first" while apple executive seems to be "surprised" by this request, and the timing of request is quite illogical, and it this context it appears that my explanation is just about only logical explanation for bono later apologising for what is surely apples "fault" (if you can call it a "fault", cause some mp3 players come with few already preloaded songs, and it is easy to just delete it, just like everyone can delete songs of innocence, no problem, no good reason to complain really).

Beat a dead horse much?
 
Beat a dead horse much?

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hm….i have finally and correctly answered something that numerous lesser brains have in vain tried to figure out on this thread ….and you are, enviously, comparing it with "flogging a dead horse"….if the subject of this thread doesn't interest you - why are you here? ….and if subject of this thread interests you -then why are you complaining when someone (me, of course) have finally explained what everyone else was trying to figure out….or in short: the whole this thread was looking like flogging the dead horse until i have cracked the whip so hard that horse has suddenly jumped and showed his teeth, or, in other words, this was all discussion on subject "how many teeth the horse has" until i have showed them that horse is alive, and that i can open his mouth and count those teeth, but seeing yours was unsolicited bonus, i can't say "thank you for the reply", i can only say that you are envious of my intelligence and that i can't help you, sorry.

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Beat a dead horse much?

"flyinmac" is obviously inspired by "flyin****"…. or, in other words, "mac" and "****" are something like synonyms for you…. and i would therefore like to suggest you the web site called "chatroulette"….. you'll get more "mac" there, you are bit of a "wak" here.
 
Bono being nervous about whether or not people will listen to the album clearly demonstrates that he doesn't believe in his music and is trying to swindle people by peddling (giving away) what he actually knows is an inferior product. The bastard! How many authors endeavor to write a novel despite being uncertain of whether or not it will be well received and widely read? Belief in the quality of one's work is not the same as belief in the profitability of one's work. Perhaps Bono's statement is nothing more than false humility, though I suspect that he's probably just as insecure as most people. I don't think U2 have made memorable music since Zooropa or possibly Pop, but I do think that the U2 bashing is tired and hackneyed.
 
Bono being nervous about whether or not people will listen to the album clearly demonstrates that he doesn't believe in his music and is trying to swindle people by peddling (giving away) what he actually knows is an inferior product. The bastard! How many authors endeavor to write a novel despite being uncertain of whether or not it will be well received and widely read? Belief in the quality of one's work is not the same as belief in the profitability of one's work. Perhaps Bono's statement is nothing more than false humility, though I suspect that he's probably just as insecure as most people. I don't think U2 have made memorable music since Zooropa or possibly Pop, but I do think that the U2 bashing is tired and hackneyed.
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this album is actually not very bad, U2 sales are not dwindling so much because they have "lost inspiration" or "motivation", but even more so because the public is being gradually dumbed down, there are plenty of artistically inferior albums that sell better than U2 nowadays…i am very sure that U2 have SOLD the album to apple for money bigger than they could expect to get otherwise, and assuring that album will reach wider audience that it would reach otherwise…it was therefore good business deal for both parties (apple have hooked new customers onto iTunes that way, this have surely paid back their investment) but Bono screwed the deal by hinting that they were paid by apple (this was supposed to remain secret) and apple people then made him eat his words by taking a blame for what wasn't really his blame (automatic downloads, that was surely not his idea, but part of the deal that was invented by apple)
 
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