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In my area the post office is very, very poorly managed. Often I'll go in before work(the peak time for our local post office) and there will be one person at the counter helping customers. I feel sorry for the person who is working at the counter, because by the time a customer gets there they have waited in line 30 minutes--and this is not during the holiday season mind you but the middle of summer.

I realize that the wait isn't that counter person's fault and so I try to treat that person well despite being angry at the institution -- but its hard when I see post office workers in the back laughing and goofing off. That's why people have bad impressions of unions these days. It used to be that unions protected hard working people who were being exploited and underpaid. Now, the uions act like the mafia in many respects and have no concern at all for providing quality service. In my dealings with post office workers I've had extremely cold abrasive treatment from them despite starting the transaction off on a friendly tone.


Amen I couldn't agree more. You right comparing the union to a form of mafia thats basically how it goes,If I were to join the union it would cost $75.00 per month.
 
I don't benefit from the unions hard work. I benefit from my own hard work unions are going to kill USPS just like they are killing the automakers. This is not the 1950's. Now a days unions only defend the deadbeats & scumbags who are too lazy to work. I could only imagine how much better the Postal service would be to work if they could get rid of the unions.

Despite your claims that you did it all yourself, you didn't.

Read up on the history of our organization. We were non-union before the 70's, and most postal employees were below the poverty line/eligible for government aid. It was only because of the strike and the subsequent unionization that the postal service pays a decent wage with good benefits.

If you say the union did nothing for you, you should deny all benefits (because the union won them all for us), and you should demand a serious pay cut for yourself (because the union fought for a decent wage).

Meanwhile, us union workers who realize the benefits of organized labor will continue to see people like you as nothing more than ungrateful freeloaders. Collective bargaining benefits all workers, union or not, and I'm proud to pay my dues every month ($32, not the $75 you claim you would pay).

Also, people who aren't in unions shouldn't claim to know their inner workings. It isn't mafia-like at all. We have elections to decide our representatives, and anybody can become a shop steward. If you don't like the way the union is run, join and do something about it. Nobody will stop you.
 
Despite your claims that you did it all yourself, you didn't.

Read up on the history of our organization. We were non-union before the 70's, and most postal employees were below the poverty line/eligible for government aid. It was only because of the strike and the subsequent unionization that the postal service pays a decent wage with good benefits.

If you say the union did nothing for you, you should deny all benefits (because the union won them all for us), and you should demand a serious pay cut for yourself (because the union fought for a decent wage).

Meanwhile, us union workers who realize the benefits of organized labor will continue to see people like you as nothing more than ungrateful freeloaders. Collective bargaining benefits all workers, union or not, and I'm proud to pay my dues every month ($32, not the $75 you claim you would pay).

Also, people who aren't in unions shouldn't claim to know their inner workings. It isn't mafia-like at all. We have elections to decide our representatives, and anybody can become a shop steward. If you don't like the way the union is run, join and do something about it. Nobody will stop you.


No thats Ok I'm happy being a freeloading scab I'm not the only one either. I do liken the union to the mafia you are basically paying for protection and the ability to file frivolous grievances. If you read my earlier post I did say the unions did good in the past these days they only protect the deadbeat lazy postal workers and there is a lot of them.
 
No unions does not have to be Wal-Mart. There is a middle ground where most of the rest of corporate America lies. So both sides of the arguments here are at extremes.

There are better unions and there are better (than Wal-Mart) non-union companies.
 
No unions does not have to be Wal-Mart. There is a middle ground where most of the rest of corporate America lies. So both sides of the arguments here are at extremes.

There are better unions and there are better (than Wal-Mart) non-union companies.

I was responding to his comment that he didn't benefit from the Union's hard work. Very few non-union, non-skilled (no college, no required training) jobs give the benefits of the P.O.
 
I love my local USPS office. And although there is at least one guy there who seems angry all the time, it is just his "look", never his words or manner. Then there are the other three that are smiling even when all the customers are grouches.

I do have to say, I have seen offices that would have benefited from more than 1 person behind the counter! :eek:
 
The Post Office is an anomaly. No matter what time of the day it is, or the city and state, whenever I go into a post office there is always a line. At least a 10 minute wait. I cannot figure out why this is and it creates a sincere dread of having to deal with it, especially if you MUST use it to send something through postal.

I dunno, could the USPS look at... grocery stores for example? They are able to run countless people through the checkout lines, each with tens if not hundreds of items to purchase, in a FAR more effective time. Post offices deal with one item from a customer and take five minutes to process it. No wonder lines build up.

It took me almost ten minutes to buy a STAMP yesterday! There were only two people in front of me but the woman behind the counter had no idea of time efficiency. There is another woman who works there that cannot understand any simple mailing procedures without having to be told at least three times.

Let's not forget the unusual deadlines for items. The post office at my university has four different closing times, all within an hour's span. The desk closes at 4:30, but money orders close at 3:25. Mail will only be postmarked for that day if it's before 3:35. There is some other time deadline around 4:00 or 4:05. It's confusing and ridiculous. Oh, and they can't take credit or debit cards. It's seriously one of the worst post offices I have ever visited.

A few weeks ago, as around 15-20 people were waiting in line for up to twenty minutes at a post office in a SMALL town, I overheard a man comment, "No wonder they're not as popular anymore." Yeah.
 
The Post Office is an anomaly. No matter what time of the day it is, or the city and state, whenever I go into a post office there is always a line. At least a 10 minute wait. I cannot figure out why this is and it creates a sincere dread of having to deal with it, especially if you MUST use it to send something through postal.

I dunno, could the USPS look at... grocery stores for example? They are able to run countless people through the checkout lines, each with tens if not hundreds of items to purchase, in a FAR more effective time. Post offices deal with one item from a customer and take five minutes to process it. No wonder lines build up.

It took me almost ten minutes to buy a STAMP yesterday! There were only two people in front of me but the woman behind the counter had no idea of time efficiency. There is another woman who works there that cannot understand any simple mailing procedures without having to be told at least three times.

Let's not forget the unusual deadlines for items. The post office at my university has four different closing times, all within an hour's span. The desk closes at 4:30, but money orders close at 3:25. Mail will only be postmarked for that day if it's before 3:35. There is some other time deadline around 4:00 or 4:05. It's confusing and ridiculous. Oh, and they can't take credit or debit cards. It's seriously one of the worst post offices I have ever visited.

A few weeks ago, as around 15-20 people were waiting in line for up to twenty minutes at a post office in a SMALL town, I overheard a man comment, "No wonder they're not as popular anymore." Yeah.

Is your university an official USPS run office? my school had a "post office" but it was considered part-service, and they did have some crazy hours/times like you mention.

What I noticed is that most of the time, the issues are because customers have no idea what they want and the clerks (assuming you have a knowledgeable one) try to explain all the possible options.

My transactions knowing exactly what I need to order would take still take over 2 mins.
 
they are government workers they can't do anything right.

All the experiences I have had with bureaucracy have been bad, normally resulting in the security officer escorting me out of the building. 15 days to figure out where they put my passport is, is ********. I should be in Australia now starting my abroad program.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
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