I just picked your comment to reply to because it was on the first few pages. I'm in the US.I don't support my government (in the UK) in this devious attempt to gain access to personal files. And asking for access to all cloud files worldwide is beyond belief!
In any case, I believe Apple is the closest thing to the 'old' Hewlett-Packard trustworthy culture (before Carly Fiorini tore the 'HP Way' apart), so my gut reaction would be to support whatever stance it takes.
Ref: https://www.latimes.com/local/abcar...orina-trashed-the-hp-way-20150923-column.html
Nintendo can't build a factory in one day. Not taking into account the actual construction, there's the logistics of where to place it, as well as getting the needed permits. There's also the fact that even a factory in the USA would need to import parts from afar, as there are currently no factories in the USA creating those parts (and add that to the time needed to move a Nintendo factory to the USA).Trump is trying to force companies like Nintendo to build factories in USA. If Nintendo doesn't build factories in USA, that is "taking a stand"
And then it’ll be the back door to your house 🤭Next it’ll be a back door to your iPhone📱
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Trump probably does enjoy compliments, just like anyone else... but saying that he's only doing this for the kowtowing and the knee bending is a lot like saying that a gourmet chef in the most expensive restaurant in town only cooks incredible food so that his patrons rave about how much they love his food. Again, sure... that doubtless makes him feel good -- but the chef actually does it to get paid huge wads of cash for his services.What Trump really wants is for countries and companies to debase themselves, tears streaming down their faces as they say "Sir, you are so smart. We bow down to your impressive intellect."
Yes, backdoors are very popular and 2 out of 3 users are in favor of them.
I think what he actually wants is for most of these foreign nations to 1) drop their own tariffs against the US, thereby instituting genuine "free trade" with the US
I wonder how long is going to take for the average Joe to understand that anything built in the US will cost them double what it cost now.Trump is trying to force companies like Nintendo to build factories in USA. If Nintendo doesn't build factories in USA, that is "taking a stand"
Governments the world over use the “national security” excuse as a means to cover up their shifty practices. I’m fed up with it.
You could replace Apple with Trump and consumers with Americans and it would still be true.Don’t fool yourself into thinking Apple truly cares about us consumers.
So I guess building factories while jacking up the price by ten fold to cover those costs is not greed.Nike not building factories here is also greed.
Yes and they can develop their own encrypted international communication. Criminals break laws already and they certainly don’t mind breaking a few more. What gives?I am not for breaking encryption, but from a security POV, criminals (terrorist, drug lords, black market, etc) can do pretty funny stuff with encrytped international communication.
Sell a device that can’t use iCloud feature at all? Or App Store? At some point the concession is simply not an option. Idk how useful iPhone is without access of App Store and iCloud. Ok maybe the encryption doesn’t involve App Store directly but still.Nintendo delayed pre-orders to see how the tariffs play out...that is not the same thing as not selling the switch in the USA....just stop.
Why would Apple pull out of the UK. The only way that happens is if the UK says they can't sell their devices here. Apple will continue to sell as they should
So I guess long term tariff is the solution, at least in MAGA eyes, while everyone enjoy higher prices on everything.No one is going to build factories in the US. It takes billions of dollars to build them and years to complete. And with Trump on and off with everything he is doing, no action is the smart action.
pull out so they aren't on a slippery slope. if they are putting back doors in uk, other countries are going to start asking for them.Why would they pull out of the U.K.? This issue doesn’t affect sales of Apple products in the U.K. and doesn’t cost Apple any money. It’s a storm in a teacup.
Europe hasn’t guarded its own back door so well. No thanks.
I doubt they'd ever cut off the App Store. Far too much of the world ecoonomy revolves around these centralised, overly-controlled app portals to make it even legal. There are many companies for whom their app is the only way to interact with customers. This is partially the arguement for opening up platforms to multiple storefronts but I digress...Sell a device that can’t use iCloud feature at all? Or App Store? At some point the concession is simply not an option. Idk how useful iPhone is without access of App Store and iCloud. Ok maybe the encryption doesn’t involve App Store directly but still.
There are three states here:I hope they reinstate it all as I've deleted everything from the cloud and going old school of manually syncing everything and it's a massive ball ache!
But the issue with that, then, is why wouldn't the UK government go after those other services and ask for a backdoor to be put in?They could get away with cutting iCloud though. There are multiple third parties that exist to back up photos from a device (OneDrive, Dropbox, pCloud etc) and you always have the option of localised backup to a PC or Mac via a good old USB cable. Customers have choice in this respect.
You're not breaking an official secret. Having ADP enabled on your devices isn't an official secret.I don't know if I'm breaking any official secrets here, but I'm a UK user and Advanced Data Protection is still enabled for me.
Since Apple aren't permitted to lay down a warrant canary, I'll let you know if things change. Having said that, they craftily managed to work around the censorship notice last time around.
These sorts of things are years in the planning. It was likely originally planned as a power flex on behalf of the previous government, the increasingly paranoid Conservatives. They were/are still trying to sell the ridiculous notion that Brexit was a good idea and that the UK had the same leverage as the EU. Apple just happened to be the biggest fish in the pond.But the issue with that, then, is why wouldn't the UK government go after those other services and ask for a backdoor to be put in?
Apple is far larger than any cloud data storage company and has the financial and legal might to fight against these stupid requests, but a small cloud provider may not be able to.