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For hardware maybe.
It's all in how you use it. The interface etc etc...it's not all eye candy.
It could do this better too, but it's still better than most mobile phones at what it does.
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For hardware maybe.
It's all in how you use it. The interface etc etc...it's not all eye candy.
It could do this better too, but it's still better than most mobile phones at what it does.
TBi
macrumors 68030
You are concentrating too much on the lack of 3G. The screen on the iPhone is cutting edge, so is the software backing it up. The way it rotates the screen by rotating the phone is pretty cutting edge, especially compared to other phones.
The hardware in the iPhone is actually pretty amazing when you look at it. People just concentrate too much on the lack of 3G but that is only one small aspect of a phone.
t0mat0
macrumors 603
N95 is the iPhone's main rival. As Scoble has mentioned - Nokia is it's competitor - it might be a year or so behind on the touch side, but Nokia is 2-3 years behind a decent UI. I've got a N73 and would love to have it rnuning as simply as a iPhone interface.
The N95 touchscreen successor MID will be the competitor. It's choose what's right for you at the moment - no device has everything (5Mp cam, video, 3G, Decent music, Wifi (inc on a proper browser which N95 doesn't have), flash, syncing to HDTV, wireless charging, USB3/WiMax/FW3200....).
you forgot to add in the cloud's free iPhone wifi. IF you're travelling and sotpping at train stations, cafes in big cities, or motorway stations, you should be able ot snag a decent connection at these places - which is exactly when you'd want to have a decent wifi connection.
I'm not really jealous of that at all, I owned an N95 and didn't like it. The only good thing that came out of owning it was the fact I sold it on ebay for £235 which went towards buying my iphone.
It had plenty of features but it didn't really do any of them that well. The battery life was a joke. There is no point putting the likes of a 5 megapixel camera and sat Nav into a phone if you can't use them for more than an hour before the battery goes flat.
It had plenty of features but it didn't really do any of them that well. The battery life was a joke. There is no point putting the likes of a 5 megapixel camera and sat Nav into a phone if you can't use them for more than an hour before the battery goes flat.
Oh-es-Ten
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As a fairly chronic 'upgrader', the iPhone was the only phone that has actually made me stop thinking about getting the latest and greatest and feel happy with what I have got.
Unlike Nokias or SE's as well, getting new functionality via software is stupidly easy. Trying to upgrade the firmware on my old Nokia N91 was a nightmare (on a PC).
I know Apple has more planned for the iPhone (not just as a device, but as a platform), so I can relax and enjoy where it is all going.
The funny thing is I actually picked up my old N91 the other day to check something and within 1 minute it locked up and restarted on me (and nothing was installed at all). Don't think I will be heading back there anytime soon...
Unlike Nokias or SE's as well, getting new functionality via software is stupidly easy. Trying to upgrade the firmware on my old Nokia N91 was a nightmare (on a PC).
I know Apple has more planned for the iPhone (not just as a device, but as a platform), so I can relax and enjoy where it is all going.
The funny thing is I actually picked up my old N91 the other day to check something and within 1 minute it locked up and restarted on me (and nothing was installed at all). Don't think I will be heading back there anytime soon...
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I suppose the iPod Touch is also old tech too, since it's lacking Bluetooth, a speaker and phone hardware.
Yet people call it the most advanced MP3 player going?
I'm confused at what the OP refers to as old tech. EDGE and 2mp camera might not be cutting edge but everything else in that device is advanced.
Yet people call it the most advanced MP3 player going?
I'm confused at what the OP refers to as old tech. EDGE and 2mp camera might not be cutting edge but everything else in that device is advanced.
MRU
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I have an N95. The battery life it poo! The operating system often is sluggish and will sometimes crash. Turning on the camera is slow, and its very slow to take pictures too.
It does have good features. Doesnt need to be jailbroken to install 3rd party application. Has a decent MMS features lacking in the iPhone.
GPS works ok, but you need to spend 69.99 to unlock the voice support for GPS and if you don't it wont do the route thing properly, it just reminds you to buy the voices and then if you say no it just drops you out, so you can't properly route.
I like the fact I can install lots of themes and customise it.
The iPhone is far from perfect, but neither is the N95, in fact I just bought an iPhone off ebay and can't wait for it to get here so I can get rid of the N95.
It does have good features. Doesnt need to be jailbroken to install 3rd party application. Has a decent MMS features lacking in the iPhone.
GPS works ok, but you need to spend 69.99 to unlock the voice support for GPS and if you don't it wont do the route thing properly, it just reminds you to buy the voices and then if you say no it just drops you out, so you can't properly route.
I like the fact I can install lots of themes and customise it.
The iPhone is far from perfect, but neither is the N95, in fact I just bought an iPhone off ebay and can't wait for it to get here so I can get rid of the N95.
Hmm, just joined, starts an iphone bashing thread, moves on to veiled jibes at other posters....
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Remember, don't feed the trolls. 🙂
There are quite a few key points in this argument many people ignore and don't take into account and I must say before I got one as a supprise for christmas I bashed the iphone and o2 and I thought the N95 was the best option ( even more so with the 8GB version ).
Even based purely on figures people seem to write the iphone off as a expensive but many people have a phone & a ipod, even if your phone can do it many people prefer the ipod as lets be honest even the n95 isn't the most elegant when wanting to listen to some music or watch a film. With the iphone your getting a ipod touch straight from the bat, widely regarded as the best MP3/movie player around. You can also watch movies on it easily as the screen is just the right size for it. The N95 screen is nearly a inch smaller, you simply couldn't watch a film on it.
Monthly cost, for me personally 200minutes and 200texts is more than enough, I couldn't careless if you can get a N95 with 1000 txt's and minutes, I wouldn't use them and neither would a large majority of people but like the iphone the minimum contract for the N95 (8gb) is actually £40 per month. That doesn't include data usage and thats a extra £15 a month for a measly 200mb. The iphone is unlimited not to mention with the way most contract phones are you are tied down for 18months. With the iphone your not, you have already bought it and if you want to stop paying you stop. You still have a pretty awesome ipod.
I haven't even got into all the software that you can get for the iphone, Mail, youtube, web browser and the general joy you get from using the thing.
It seems to me like the Mac vs PC debate all over again and it's only generally the people who have never used one who complain about them baring the ones who actually need the functions that 95% don't need or use.
Even based purely on figures people seem to write the iphone off as a expensive but many people have a phone & a ipod, even if your phone can do it many people prefer the ipod as lets be honest even the n95 isn't the most elegant when wanting to listen to some music or watch a film. With the iphone your getting a ipod touch straight from the bat, widely regarded as the best MP3/movie player around. You can also watch movies on it easily as the screen is just the right size for it. The N95 screen is nearly a inch smaller, you simply couldn't watch a film on it.
Monthly cost, for me personally 200minutes and 200texts is more than enough, I couldn't careless if you can get a N95 with 1000 txt's and minutes, I wouldn't use them and neither would a large majority of people but like the iphone the minimum contract for the N95 (8gb) is actually £40 per month. That doesn't include data usage and thats a extra £15 a month for a measly 200mb. The iphone is unlimited not to mention with the way most contract phones are you are tied down for 18months. With the iphone your not, you have already bought it and if you want to stop paying you stop. You still have a pretty awesome ipod.
I haven't even got into all the software that you can get for the iphone, Mail, youtube, web browser and the general joy you get from using the thing.
It seems to me like the Mac vs PC debate all over again and it's only generally the people who have never used one who complain about them baring the ones who actually need the functions that 95% don't need or use.
Slingbox is cool and hopefully will be coming to the iPhone soon (they hinted at it), but apart from that, is there really much difference between the two deals?
I pay £45 a month for my iPhone, 600 minutes, 500 texts.
Great.
I have unlimited access to Messenger too.
No Skype on iPhone til the SDK it out.
I have a 3G Nokia too. The iPhone kills it.
Same on iPhone but it comes with a better mail client.
Same on iPhone
Opera Mini is a joke compared to Safari.
the iPhone also comes with 8GB (you didn't state whether your Nokia comes with 8GB flash) and an infinitely superior syncing solution (iTunes/iPhoto/Mail/Address Book/Safari/)
Daily Mail reports poor UK iPhone sales
Apple bans O2 & Carphone Warehouse from issuing sales figures 😱
Apple bans O2 & Carphone Warehouse from issuing sales figures 😱
Yeah, the Daily Mail, that well-known bastion of sound journalism. Right....
The article's full of howlers:
"A senior industry source" = we made it up
"Shops visited by Financial Mail last week" = the 2 on the same street as our office
"no breakdown will be given for individual countries, interpreted by some as a sign of market problems." - they never break down sales figures at Macworld AFAIK.
"How many Northern Rock employees do you think are splashing out on flash phones right now?" - yeah, those 4800 employees are big contributors to the UK mobile market as a whole, aren't they?
Maybe the sales are poor, but this article is just FUD.
The article's full of howlers:
"A senior industry source" = we made it up
"Shops visited by Financial Mail last week" = the 2 on the same street as our office
"no breakdown will be given for individual countries, interpreted by some as a sign of market problems." - they never break down sales figures at Macworld AFAIK.
"How many Northern Rock employees do you think are splashing out on flash phones right now?" - yeah, those 4800 employees are big contributors to the UK mobile market as a whole, aren't they?
Maybe the sales are poor, but this article is just FUD.
Putting an extra mexapixel in a camera is incremental. 3G is incremental. Memory increases are incremental. The iPhone screen - the entire interface of the phone - is revolutionary.
You seem to be dead set on convincing yourself that you don't want one. That's fine. You do what you need to do. But don't expect anyone else to indulge you and your issues.
Have you seen all the new touchscreen phones out there now? There's seemingly dozens. Why is that? Because the iPhone revolutionised the market. What you don't see, however, in all those commercials for all those other touchscreen phones, is anyone actually doing anything with the touchscreen. iPhone commercials show you nothing but the interface in action.
Apple has stolen a march on an entire industry, and is ahead of them by at least 5 years. Go ahead and buy your Nokia. In a year's time you will hate yourself even more than you do now, when Apple and third party software developers are adding functions to the iPhone by a simple iTunes sync, and you're stuck with your hardware-driven, clunky piece of 20th century technology.
Enjoy.
Santa Rosa
macrumors 65816
From what I have heard that particular phone stinks. I have used it briefly myself and it doesnt hold a candle to the iPhone. The 3G when you will have it will kill the battery and there are no applications to bring its true potential, the GPS sucked when I used it, like sucked really badly, people who are actually out to take good photos use an actual camera and a Sky Box is used to watch sky sports, not a phone as thats just silly.
The N95 has got nearly every feature you could ever want but who the hell cares. My iPhone does the business on every level, unlike the N95 which from what I can gather from these posts and my personal experience half arses it the whole way + its ugly + its a Nokia.
Enough said if you ask me, hope your happy with your purchase.
Funny article.
I am not saying whether iPhone sales are good or poor as I don't know, but Apple has been keeping their figures private from day 1. By picking it up now the Mail are making out that Apple are doing it for secretive reasons to hide something. When in reality its just the way they do it for every single product they produce.
Announcements will be made at Macworld or the earnings call. Or if a landmark number has been made (1m iPhones, 100m iPods, 1bn iTunes tracks etc)
FWIW, the iPhone breezed by 1m sales a while ago. Conservative estimates project sales of just under 4m units, while some have suggested that Jobs will announce 5mm sold at MacWorld.
Even if it's the sub-4m number, that's still pretty good seeing as it was only on sale in the US until November, and then only was expanded to the UK, France and Germany.
I think attacking the iPhone on its sales figures is just silly.
