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However in reality this case has a legal troll who will take millions for his work suing Apple. On the other side millions of pathetic chancers who had no harm caused and just fancy getting on the free money gravy train, useful puppets for the troll.
I don't say you are wrong. But such thing is a classic class action lawsuit in the America.
 
That's arguable. I would say slow device pushes you way more and faster than device which lasts 10% less on battery.
Agreed, arguable, but I think performance of modern phones is so high you might never notice losing 10% of it, but you will notice losing 10% of screen time. And you'll definitely notice your camera IQ is worse after update.
 
Apple tries to stop your phone and its tired battery from shutting down in a phone call = complain.
Apple lets your phone and its tired battery shut down in a phone call = complain.
It's a tricky one. Next will be Apple makes app sizes smaller causing many to not use their data plan to its fullest.
 
To me this is just a bunch of nonsense that really amounts to Apple should have just maybe given people a bunch of $25 gift cards and everybody would have been fine, those people probably would have actually gotten more with the gift cards than the actual class-action.

I remember getting an email about my 2017 MBP because of its keyboard which luckily I’ve somehow never had problems with, my daughter still uses it to this day. I remember reading the instructions on how to claim, and I just kept thinking “Man this sounds like a lot of work just to get $10.” or however much it was.

I am still waiting for someone to make an actual class action against Apple about the Airpods Pro…now THAT has to be effecting waaaaay more people than what is reported by the media, and I can’t believe that there is not already a lawsuit for it in the first place!
 
Agreed, arguable, but I think performance of modern phones is so high you might never notice losing 10% of it, but you will notice losing 10% of screen time. And you'll definitely notice your camera IQ is worse after update.
Well seems like you did not experience the iPhone throttling, this article is about.

It definitely was not 10% and it was noticeable a lot.
 
Batteries degrade, and Apple made the right call. In any case, processors adjust frequency in response to load and also remaining battery level. So adjusting frequency in response to the battery condition is nothing new, in a sense. Would they rather their phones cut out mid emergency call? Mid paying for something?
It's about letting users to choose. Like Apple did after all these class actions.

It's about transparency. If Apple communicated it well, it would not be such issue. But Apple did not. Why? We can only discuss - one of the views is planned obsolescence by Apple. If your device is slower for seemingly no reason, you think it's time to replace it. You would not think of the bad battery.
 
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It's about letting users to choose. Like Apple did after all these class actions.

It's about transparency. If Apple communicated it well, it would not be such issue. But Apple did not. Why? We can only discuss - one of the views is planned obsolescence by Apple. If your device is slower for seemingly no reason, you think it's time to replace it. You would not think of the bad battery.
I agree they should have communicated it far better… and been much better about letting consumers choose.

They should have also explained the magnitude of the speed decrease and given a demonstration side by side. I’d guess for most regular tasks on iphone, the differences would not be so big as to impact your usage of the device.
 

Weird how phones had replaceable batteries for decades with no issues and now in the future when we have better technology it's suddenly "not reliable".

The good old Nokia phones had replaceable batteries. Wouldn't replaceable batteries solve this?
 
Apple were idiots with this. I had a ruined battery. I took it to an Apple Store and they could see the battery charge decreasing as we stood there talking about it. But they absolutely refused to replace the battery even with me paying. It just wasn’t an option.

I got it replaced at a repair shop and I kept the phone for years after. My 6S is still in my draw and is used by the children sometimes.
 
I did the article and dozens of other articles regarding the same issue at hand. Apple has throttled iPhones when batteries health has fell beyond a certain threshold. The problem is, there was never any information relayed to the consumer about this happening. Consumers just thought there phone was slow, not that apple had slowed them down intentionally. Apple should have disclosed this, so the consumers could choose to either change the battery or purchase a new phone. Most didn't do the former because Apple never communicated that they throttled phones due to the battery. Everyone has to remember that most iPhone users don't have the technical understanding of these devices as a lot of the users here.
 
It’s amazing that so many people STILL don’t understand that ANY lithium ion phone battery that is below 20% charge will lose the ability to supply a steady flow of voltage for system demands. Your battery could be brand new without defects of any kind and that would be the reality: below 20% charge = possibility of a voltage demand from the system that could result in the phone shutting off without warning.
 
I did the article and dozens of other articles regarding the same issue at hand. Apple has throttled iPhones when batteries health has fell beyond a certain threshold. The problem is, there was never any information relayed to the consumer about this happening. Consumers just thought there phone was slow, not that apple had slowed them down intentionally. Apple should have disclosed this, so the consumers could choose to either change the battery or purchase a new phone. Most didn't do the former because Apple never communicated that they throttled phones due to the battery. Everyone has to remember that most iPhone users don't have the technical understanding of these devices as a lot of the users here.
You are correct. The details of the issue are very simple and clear. But there will be folks who refuse to accept it.
 
Apple tries to stop your phone and its tired battery from shutting down in a phone call = complain.
Apple lets your phone and its tired battery shut down in a phone call = complain.
It's a tricky one. Next will be Apple makes app sizes smaller causing many to not use their data plan to its fullest.
It’s not really that tricky… granted I’m not UX expert by any means, but I could think of one or two ways you could signal ‘battery needs service’ to a user, so even my 70 yo
Mum would understand she needs to take it to an Apple Store, as opposed to making her feel like her phone is getting slow with age phone is old with age and she should upgrade.
 
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If Apple was upfront with this and the option to turn it off (like they do), this would be a non-issue.
except lawsuit claims batteries were defective. they were not. being upfront according to the lawsuit would mean apple must state their batteries were 'defective' even though they were not. nonsensical.
 
Recently installed a new Apple battery in my iPhone 6 and I already got the slow down message when the phone shut down when opening several apps.o_O
 
Phone was working fine and after the update it was not…..I am no battery expert, but if it was a battery issue people would have seen issue even on older phones.

besides, even if Apple did the right thing, they did not communicate …but I am sure people will find a way to justify Apple no matter what.

i am glad someone is looking into this issue.

this is where you're wrong

older phones had lower power processors, therefore require less voltage for peak performance. degraded batteries can hold up without those requirements.
 
That’s on judges to resolve whether the batteries were defective or not. Definitely not on you.
if I can't judge it, you can't either. you can't say if the batteries were defective and therefore cannot make the argument that apple was hiding defective battery status behind a software update.

practice what you preach.
 
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Some of us understand engineering. The alternative was your iPhone dies and restarts. And now every tech firm knows users sue you for perceived slights but will live with random restarts when too much current is drawn because they didn’t fix it with software. Because no one is going to start involving users is complicated electronically engineering trade offs. And no one is going to give the user a toggle where one option is to have your device fail.

Remember this was discovered by a YouTuber doing complicated testing. The real world differences were probably imperceptible for 99% or people.
Typical Apple response, its not us its you ! You dont understand ! How insulting.

And yes everyone did know, one of googles highest hits before a new device release was why is my iphone slowing down before a new iphone is released.
 
Result is the same - pushing you to a thought you need to buy a new device sooner.
Absolutely no, if I see my battery depleting faster I understand it’s the battery and I would think I need a new battery, if the phone slows down I would think I need a new phone.

I don’t recall other electronic devices being slows down for an aging battery..
 
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