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Having said that, the only books in my collection that have lost their covers are US paperbacks. Go figure! :rolleyes:

The US has at least two different major kinds of paperback bindings. There's a "mass market paperback" that is physically small (i.e. half the footprint size of a hardcover). They tend to use very cheap paper and cheap bindings, usually apply to popular books of 300-900 pages in length, and aren't very durable. Then there's a trade paperback, or a literary paperback, that's usually closer to the size of a hardcover, uses paper of comparable quality to hardcovers, and has a nicer binding. They're used for a few things, but the biggest area is "literary" fiction, usually consisting of books of 150-250 pages in length, although I have dictionaries, etc, in this format. They can be very nice. Some of them even use nicer paper than most of my hardcovers!

That being said, I prefer buying used hardcovers to new paperbacks, when I can. :)

Of the foreign paperbacks I have laying around, a couple of French ones look like mass-market US paperbacks (and they're both things that would have sold in the other format here); the ones from Russia and India vary from close to TPB to worse than MMPB. :eek:
 
death and taxes

Let's not forget that high British taxes are one of the reasons there's a United States at all...

I'm pretty sure the colonists were throwing ipods into Boston Harbor to protest the 17.5% tax rate.

Don't want to pay sales tax here in the States? Order through these guys:

powermax
 
People should really use the search function. We have already been over this and have come to the conclusion that several countries in the EU are more expensive than the United Kingdoms, e.g. Denmark with a VAT of 25%.

All base models

MacBook UK: £699 DK: £724
MacBook Pro UK: £1299 DK: £1338

Mac Pro UK: £1699 DK: £1781
 
How to change thread title

Since the title of this thread "UK Macs are seriously overpriced" has no base on reality, could we change it to something more appropriate like "Yet another UK customer who doesn't understand the effect of VAT" or "No, Apple doesn't change its prices every time the dollar goes up or down a bit"? Anyone know how to do this?
 
Since the title of this thread "UK Macs are seriously overpriced" has no base on reality, could we change it to something more appropriate like "Yet another UK customer who doesn't understand the effect of VAT" or "No, Apple doesn't change its prices every time the dollar goes up or down a bit"? Anyone know how to do this?

Well I am sorry I didn't know that the US has different state taxes. So yes, I am another UK customer who doesn't understand, but this forum has helped me understand, unlike your unhelpful comments. :p
 
Well I am sorry I didn't know that the US has different state taxes. So yes, I am another UK customer who doesn't understand, but this forum has helped me understand, unlike your unhelpful comments. :p

I think my comments have been very helpful. Maybe not to you and your ego, but to this site, by getting the thread title changed, which expressed some blatant misrepresentation of facts.
 
The big exception being healthcare

To quote every obnoxious economist ever: "There's no such thing as a free lunch." ;) ... I'd bet that most of 17.5% VAT goes towards paying healthcare there. So I'll call it a wash.

Also, having been in London before, it stung when the £ was at $1.6, I can only imagine now :eek:

spjoneSi
 
I'm currently sitting in the airport in the states waiting for my flight home to the uk, with my contraband cheap mac mini snuggled safeley away in my luggage. Had to pay 6.5% tax.

I got a 1 GB upgrade which brought the price to $674 ( £365 approx )

Just hope I don't get stopped at customs now !!!

Did you make it through? Hope you were smart enough to throw out the boxes etc...

Ha, that is a good way to do it. And that is so cheap! Wow, maybe I should take a holiday to the states and just buy a Macbook there and hope customs think I had it before I left :p.

You should. How would they know you didn't bring the laptop on vacation with you?

Exactly the reason why I see in NYC huge numbers of foreigners coming on shopping trip vacations. I have friends in Spain etc who do yearly family vacations to go shopping in NYC. Why? Because they can get often the SAME items (clothing, electronics etc) cheaper than buying them in Europe, especially now with the super weak dollar. In fact, including the cost of the trip, they still come out ahead in savings on their purchases...

I figured most europeans were doing this nowadays....
 
Did you make it through? Hope you were smart enough to throw out the boxes etc...



You should. How would they know you didn't bring the laptop on vacation with you?

Exactly the reason why I see in NYC huge numbers of foreigners coming on shopping trip vacations. I have friends in Spain etc who do yearly family vacations to go shopping in NYC. Why? Because they can get often the SAME items (clothing, electronics etc) cheaper than buying them in Europe, especially now with the super weak dollar. In fact, including the cost of the trip, they still come out ahead in savings on their purchases...

I figured most europeans were doing this nowadays....

Yep made it through.

I had two bags, one had a customs leaflet in it to say it had been searched, luckily it wasn't the one with the mac in it. It had been searched on the American side anyway so I don't think they would have been interested if they had found it ?

One good thing in the Apple stores in the states is the range ( and again price ) of educational software for children. Being a father of 3 under 8 years, I do think the choice in the uk is very poor for the mac.

Only thing is I'm still too tired to set it up ! :p
 
Yep made it through.

I had two bags, one had a customs leaflet in it to say it had been searched, luckily it wasn't the one with the mac in it. It had been searched on the American side anyway so I don't think they would have been interested if they had found it ?

One good thing in the Apple stores in the states is the range ( and again price ) of educational software for children. Being a father of 3 under 8 years, I do think the choice in the uk is very poor for the mac.

Only thing is I'm still too tired to set it up.... its 3 am, and my body thinks its 8 am ! :p

Well Done! Yeah, the educational store is a good one in the US, not only for the software, but also the hardware. I noticed that if you bought a MacBook, you get a free iPod when you are a student along with a student discount! That does seem like a good deal. :)
 
Since the title of this thread "UK Macs are seriously overpriced" has no base on reality, could we change it to something more appropriate like "Yet another UK customer who doesn't understand the effect of VAT" or "No, Apple doesn't change its prices every time the dollar goes up or down a bit"? Anyone know how to do this?

I know it has been a while since this post was active, but i just wanted to comment on this quote!

I live in Denmark (The country with 25% VAT) -and even after i subtract the VAT from the price on the Danish Apple store - i still have to pay $400 more for my MacBook Pro.
Even if i buy it whith U.S. OS X and U.S. Keyboard.

Then the VAT doesn't explain the huge difference in their pricing. They must have some sort of price based on the average income in the country they sell in or something, because all their products are more expencive in Denmark - Also without the VAT.
 
I know it has been a while since this post was active, but i just wanted to comment on this quote!

I live in Denmark (The country with 25% VAT) -and even after i subtract the VAT from the price on the Danish Apple store - i still have to pay $400 more for my MacBook Pro.
Even if i buy it whith U.S. OS X and U.S. Keyboard.

Then the VAT doesn't explain the huge difference in their pricing. They must have some sort of price based on the average income in the country they sell in or something, because all their products are more expencive in Denmark - Also without the VAT.

My bet, it is something to do with your taxes (corporate or something). Doesn't Denmark have some of the highest taxes in Europe given your socialist leaning system?
 
I know it has been a while since this post was active, but i just wanted to comment on this quote!

I live in Denmark (The country with 25% VAT) -and even after i subtract the VAT from the price on the Danish Apple store - i still have to pay $400 more for my MacBook Pro.
Even if i buy it whith U.S. OS X and U.S. Keyboard.

Then the VAT doesn't explain the huge difference in their pricing. They must have some sort of price based on the average income in the country they sell in or something, because all their products are more expencive in Denmark - Also without the VAT.

Are you sure? The basic MacBook Pro seems to be $1999 in the USA and $2170 ex VAT in Denmark. Which is $170 difference, and not quite over $400. Any possibility that there is some import tax, or luxury tax, or similar?
 
My bet, it is something to do with your taxes (corporate or something). Doesn't Denmark have some of the highest taxes in Europe given your socialist leaning system?

Yes indeed, we have some of the highest taxes in the world (40-60%), and the highest VAT also (25%).
But I can't se how this should affect Apples prices. But who knows? We have so many environmental taxes, that it might be because of them that the computer is more expensive.


Are you sure? The basic MacBook Pro seems to be $1999 in the USA and $2170 ex VAT in Denmark. Which is $170 difference, and not quite over $400. Any possibility that there is some import tax, or luxury tax, or similar?

Off course I should have mentioned that i talked about the 17" MBP. ^(~$2600edit $2799 in U.S. and ~$3050 in Denmark)
And i've never heard about any kind og luxory taxes or things like that, and there shouldn't be any import taxes when Apple is registered in Denmark.
However, as I mentioned previously it might be because on environmental taxes or "Storage TAX". They are quite smart when it comes to making up new kinds of taxes - unfortunately.
 
Yes indeed, we have some of the highest taxes in the world (40-60%), and the highest VAT also (25%).
But I can't se how this should affect Apples prices. But who knows? We have so many environmental taxes, that it might be because of them that the computer is more expensive.

They can't just have prices based on the exchange rate, the economy doesn't work like that.
 
They can't just have prices based on the exchange rate, the economy doesn't work like that.

I can see that. But i seriously doubt that the exchangerate is so unpredictable that they need a $200 safety margin.

Anyway - This might be a question for Apple about their price policy instead. There could be many reasons why they choose to sell at higher prices some places. I was just wondering if it is concidered to be fair competition on the free market.
 
I can see that. But i seriously doubt that the exchangerate is so unpredictable that they need a $200 safety margin.

Anyway - This might be a question for Apple about their price policy instead. There could be many reasons why they choose to sell at higher prices some places. I was just wondering if it is concidered to be fair competition on the free market.

It is indeed a question of their pricing policy. Which while surely influenced by the exchange rate is not based on it, and yeah it's fair practice.
 
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