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UK teenage girls 'worst drunks'
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Agree wholeheartedly with this.
After about 8pm on most nights (particularly weekends), the city centre where I live can become quite rowdy. Not necessarily violent, but a lot of drunken arguments, things being knocked over, public urination etc. For that reason, you generally only see young people out at those hours, which just magnifies the problem.
I remember a trip to Buenos Aires, where I was walking around the city around midnight and you had children playing in the playgrounds still, and groups of old people gathered around a table outside a cafe enjoying a bottle of wine together.. You just don't see that here any more.
The government here recently proscribed having children in a pub/bar after 9, however that just means no children and few parents are going to be in these premises. Hence - you just have pubs full of teens and twenty-somethings; little wonder things get rowdy. The move has, IMO, entirely back-fired.
Yeah, because prohibition works.
A license to drink might not be a bad idea though..
One of the many, many reasons why I would never live in London. Nice for occasional visits and few day stays, nothing more.
What's worrying is that people in London seem to have less of a concept of the north as time goes on. I noticed a website listing Cheltenham as the Midlands a few days ago.
Alcohol would never be made illegal in the UK. Its part of our heritage. In the 1700s there was a huge Gin craze in London, everyone drank it and the government at the time reacted similarly to what they are doing today. In the late 1800s 1/4 of working class wages was spent on Ale because water carried diseases and alcoholic drinks do not (that's why Pirates drank Rum). And of cause Churchill was off his face for the duration of WWII, and that turned out ok for everyone.
The only way to stop under-age drinking is to stop marketing alcohol to tweens. Who really drinks Smirnoff Ice, Bacardi Breezers, Lambrini etc APART from young teens? Alcopops should be banned, as well as strong cider like Frosty Jacks & White Lightning. If they were, then there would be much less drinks to chose from that are the same price. For under £4 all you could get is Beer, Cider and S**t wine, and I doubt many teen girls would drink those.
Don't agree with that (and not just because I'm a 36 year old guy who likes Smirnoff Ice!). Teens don't drink because of marketing, they drink because their friends all do it. It's a cultural thing, and has been so for some time.
Where are these drunk girls? Send them my way!
My thoughts exactly, once they turn 18 of course
Interesting stuff Tom B. I've traveled about Europe on business (not touristy places) and have spotted youngsters on street corners but never really anything like we have back here. That story stating 1/3 of Italian 11 year olds having a problem also kinda contradicts the point of the original story saying British teenagers are the worst! Can we not be No.1 at anything for long before we get knocked off!
I also had the same thought at whooleytoo that a license to drink might be a good idea, you could loose it for a few months if you get too drunk etc. Doesn't get round the problem of people buying drink for others though, and it also helps the original problem of alcohol being treated as 'special'.
Interesting that seb-opp mentioned the Gin Craze in London, each generation seem to have their fix, in the same streets where the 'Gin Whores' operated in 300 years ago are now operated by 'Crack Whores' (apologies to any passing moderator, language used is to demonstrate actual as-used in history books.) I believe that despite government intervention with taxes and licensed premises (similar to what they are doing now!) the Gin Craze was actually ended by crop failures and the price of grain rising.
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I also had the same thought at whooleytoo that a license to drink might be a good idea, you could loose it for a few months if you get too drunk etc. Doesn't get round the problem of people buying drink for others though, and it also helps the original problem of alcohol being treated as 'special'.
Interesting that seb-opp mentioned the Gin Craze in London, each generation seem to have their fix, in the same streets where the 'Gin Whores' operated in 300 years ago are now operated by 'Crack Whores' (apologies to any passing moderator, language used is to demonstrate actual as-used in history books.) I believe that despite government intervention with taxes and licensed premises (similar to what they are doing now!) the Gin Craze was actually ended by crop failures and the price of grain rising.
Link to Gin Lane picture
My thoughts exactly, once they turn 18 of course
A friend of mine from eastern Europe believes we drink so much due to the weather...
(I believe iBlue may agree on this one)Anyway, I didn't hear her complaining when I said I could take any country lane from our current location and find a pub within 5 minutes. I did find a pub within 5 minutes, but 2 drinks and some KPs for £8 was a little more than I wish it was!
They can't already have done it because my 17 year old brother just passed, but my 15 year old sister won't be able to learn until she's 18. Don't know exactly when it's coming into force though
I've never smoked so much as a bog standard cigarette but back home I could get weed within, oh, an hour max. In 1st year uni I lived above a dealer and I know countless people that smoke it. Now I think about it it doesn't even register with me as illegal. I've never heard of anyone getting in trouble for drugs. Thinking back I know who I could have asked about getting it when I was 15.
I like Smirnoff Ice (I'm 20) Incidentally can I introduce you to Strongbow and Buckfast? Big favourites with teens
I was an outsider when I was 15 because I thought drinking until you were sick was stupid. At 20 I try to be the one who's just a few drinks shy of getting really useless, stupid and vomiting everywhere.
This is typical of the scapegoating that gets put about by the UK media these days, implying that social problems like excessive drinking are restricted to 'out of control kids'.
The whole country drinks too much, in all age groups. It's just that when kids do it, it's A: illegal and B: visible (because they often have to do it out on the street).
Mrs Daily Mail gets all hot under the collar about it and then goes and sinks eight double G&T's before bedtime - pure hypocrisy.
One of the biggest problems is the differential between the price of alcohol bought in stores, etc., and the price that is paid in pubs. Pubs are closing all over the UK because people are opting to drink at home, far more cheaply. What this ultimately leads to is the complete normalising of habitual drinking at home, at every opportunity. It's a behaviour pattern that is easily carried over to the next generation.
I'm no abstainer myself, my alcohol intake waxes and wanes but is generally moderate. Getting blasted every now and again though is pretty essential for my mental wellbeing. It's just that nobody criticises me for it because I'm a 40 y.o. homeowner with a wife, two kids and a dog.
The whole country drinks too much, in all age groups. It's just that when kids do it, it's A: illegal and B: visible (because they often have to do it out on the street).
Mrs Daily Mail gets all hot under the collar about it and then goes and sinks eight double G&T's before bedtime - pure hypocrisy.
One of the biggest problems is the differential between the price of alcohol bought in stores, etc., and the price that is paid in pubs. Pubs are closing all over the UK because people are opting to drink at home, far more cheaply. What this ultimately leads to is the complete normalising of habitual drinking at home, at every opportunity. It's a behaviour pattern that is easily carried over to the next generation.
I'm no abstainer myself, my alcohol intake waxes and wanes but is generally moderate. Getting blasted every now and again though is pretty essential for my mental wellbeing. It's just that nobody criticises me for it because I'm a 40 y.o. homeowner with a wife, two kids and a dog.
It was no different when I was 15 or 16 myself in the early 90s accept some of them were as young as 12 or 13!
I was in lower 6th form at high school and girl I knew a couple of years below me, 13 at the time was drunk with friends, ended up losing her virginity to a guy in his early 20s who either didn't know or didn't care how old she was.
She turned up at mine that night in tears about it, I went to the chemist with her the next day because she was very shook up about it and didn't want to go on her own, refused to go to the police about him and I didn't either then weeks later she took a lot of paracetamol but ended up being ok and I never knew if the situations were related.
Cut to a few years ago...
This guy had had a lot of people taunting him for a long time, it's a small village and by then he'd slowly comes round to the idea of lying to everyone to try and make light of it. He concocted a story that he was nailing her mum one night and she told him he couldn't leave till he slept with her daughter too.
I heard this version of events a few years ago. After the constant gossip and taunting drove him to suicide.
The whole situation really got to his niece who's 19 at present. She said it was all lies but I know for a fact it wasn't but what he ended up doing was so sad for his niece and family, could have obviously being a lot worse all those years ago but still boils down to the fact that a drunk under age girl who's tall for her age and looks 16 or 17 is going to be tempting to someone morally ok with that kind of thing if she's not letting on about her age.
It also shows what a recluse I was at the time when I was glued to my nintendo, not drinking with them myself. I wouldn't have even considered trying it on with her or any of her friends either. 13 is a kid whether your 16, 26 or whatever. Unless your sick.
I was in lower 6th form at high school and girl I knew a couple of years below me, 13 at the time was drunk with friends, ended up losing her virginity to a guy in his early 20s who either didn't know or didn't care how old she was.
She turned up at mine that night in tears about it, I went to the chemist with her the next day because she was very shook up about it and didn't want to go on her own, refused to go to the police about him and I didn't either then weeks later she took a lot of paracetamol but ended up being ok and I never knew if the situations were related.
Cut to a few years ago...
This guy had had a lot of people taunting him for a long time, it's a small village and by then he'd slowly comes round to the idea of lying to everyone to try and make light of it. He concocted a story that he was nailing her mum one night and she told him he couldn't leave till he slept with her daughter too.
I heard this version of events a few years ago. After the constant gossip and taunting drove him to suicide.
The whole situation really got to his niece who's 19 at present. She said it was all lies but I know for a fact it wasn't but what he ended up doing was so sad for his niece and family, could have obviously being a lot worse all those years ago but still boils down to the fact that a drunk under age girl who's tall for her age and looks 16 or 17 is going to be tempting to someone morally ok with that kind of thing if she's not letting on about her age.
It also shows what a recluse I was at the time when I was glued to my nintendo, not drinking with them myself. I wouldn't have even considered trying it on with her or any of her friends either. 13 is a kid whether your 16, 26 or whatever. Unless your sick.
Interesting how you perceive things, my first thought upon reading the thread title was that they're bitches to deal with.
Interestingly enough that may be true, I've worked as a doorman for ~2.5 years and BY FAR the worst drunks to deal with are young (18-20) year old girls. I'm in Canada BTW drinking age is 18. I mean with guys, they act tough but they generally know when to back down, or if I step in to break up a fight, as soon as they guy realizes the person grabbing him is a bouncer he stops resisting, usually apologizes. Girls on the other hand KEEP FIGHTING, and biting and scratching, and try to kick you in the groin. . . then they get all pissy and claim "You can't hit me I'm a woman!" After you knock 'em to the ground
Anyways that's my little rant. . . to all you under the age of 25, if you can't handle your liquor and be a decent drunk, stop ***** drinking and try again in a few years. . .
Interestingly enough that may be true, I've worked as a doorman for ~2.5 years and BY FAR the worst drunks to deal with are young (18-20) year old girls. I'm in Canada BTW drinking age is 18. I mean with guys, they act tough but they generally know when to back down, or if I step in to break up a fight, as soon as they guy realizes the person grabbing him is a bouncer he stops resisting, usually apologizes. Girls on the other hand KEEP FIGHTING, and biting and scratching, and try to kick you in the groin. . . then they get all pissy and claim "You can't hit me I'm a woman!" After you knock 'em to the ground
Anyways that's my little rant. . . to all you under the age of 25, if you can't handle your liquor and be a decent drunk, stop ***** drinking and try again in a few years. . .
you mean the molestation or the suicide? I agree with the molestation but I give a big thumbs up for the suicide!
Interesting how you perceive things, my first thought upon reading the thread title was that they're bitches to deal with.
Interestingly enough that may be true, I've worked as a doorman for ~2.5 years and BY FAR the worst drunks to deal with are young (18-20) year old girls. I'm in Canada BTW drinking age is 18. I mean with guys, they act tough but they generally know when to back down, or if I step in to break up a fight, as soon as they guy realizes the person grabbing him is a bouncer he stops resisting, usually apologizes. Girls on the other hand KEEP FIGHTING, and biting and scratching, and try to kick you in the groin. . . then they get all pissy and claim "You can't hit me I'm a woman!" After you knock 'em to the ground
Anyways that's my little rant. . . to all you under the age of 25, if you can't handle your liquor and be a decent drunk, stop ***** drinking and try again in a few years. . .
The drinking age for light alcohol in Norway is also 18, and I worked in as a door-man in one spot and a bartender in another for a couple of years, both with an 18 limit. To be honest, I get why a lot of bars raise their limit to at least 20 in this country, even though it's not required by law. The general standard in the bars with an 18 limit is that everyone is too drunk, people fight and do generally stupid things. In the 20 and above limit bars, fights are a lot less frequent, most people are okay to deal with and everyone seems to have a good time.
you mean the molestation or the suicide? I agree with the molestation but I give a big thumbs up for the suicide!
I can never be sure how things happened exactly, just the effects it had afterwards but I agree with you. Whether the girl had agreed to it or not, a guy in his 20s shouldn't get his jollies with a girl who's barely in their teens.
At least meeting a girl in a bar or club, you can assume them to be over the age of consent because they'd have being legal for 2 years once they can drink in the UK. Drunk on a park on the other hand just screams of under-age to anyone with common sense or morals but so far as townies/chavs, they're not the sharpest or most moral bunch.
I think a lot of the problem stems from how kids are brought up these days. I was brought up thinking that getting blind drunk was stupid and a waste of money. After doing this steadily during the first year of uni I decided that this was in fact the case. I have much better things to spend on than booze!
If kids grow up around their mums and dads drinking and getting drunk, at an impressionable age there is no wonder they think it's a good idea. Or they use it as an excuse to misbehave etc etc.
If kids grow up around their mums and dads drinking and getting drunk, at an impressionable age there is no wonder they think it's a good idea. Or they use it as an excuse to misbehave etc etc.
Well I don't know why but there's a fair few drunks out tonight. A group of drunk girls just went around the side of our house and sat against a wall for a bit. And that takes a fair bit of doing because of the walls and fences up, one of them was sick in the garden.
We're not allowed to swear on the boards.
We're not allowed to swear on the boards
.Well I don't know why but there's a fair few drunks out tonight. A group of drunk girls just went around the side of our house and sat against a wall for a bit. And that takes a fair bit of doing because of the walls and fences up, one of them was sick in the garden.
We're not allowed to swear on the boards
What a pain in the neck. That's the perfect opportunity to say, "it gets the f out of my garden, or it gets the hose".
Chavs are social cancer no matter where you live. It's a shame they can't be screened from the genepool before there's any more of them seeing as they breed every 15 years and get everything handed to them on a plate by a benefit system that favours their kind so they've got no motivation to do anything more constructive.
That's precisely it. If kids want to get plastered drunk in their homes, it's between them and their families, it doesn't matter to me. It's the public fights, assaults on passers-by, urination, defecation and vomiting with which people have a problem.
Bingo. I don't mind people on their own self destruct courses, I just dont want it (literally) spilling onto my doorstep.